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Shaymin (Analysis)
- Thread starter elDino
- Start date
im noticing gems like these cropping up after the first check...
don't just copy and paste wekhter's check, please type it out
can you go through the analysis again and make sure random sentence fragments are not getting c/ped all over the place before this gets its second check?
don't just copy and paste wekhter's check, please type it out
@Fate: yea, that's what I was doing.
Anyway, done. Nice job, only real recurring issue was some long sentences.
GP 2/2
Anyway, done. Nice job, only real recurring issue was some long sentences.
[Overview]
<p>Shaymin is one of the few Pokemon that can effectively take on the role of a bulky Grass-type. However, with competition from Celebi and Ferrothorn, Shaymin can often find itself in a difficult position when looking for a team slot. Ferrothorn is blessed with an excellent secondary Steel-typing, along with support moves such as Spikes and Stealth Rock, whilst Celebi boasts reliable recovery in Recover, boosting moves in Nasty Plot and Calm Mind, and a great Fighting resistance thanks to its secondary Psychictyping. Fortunately, However, Shaymin can gain back some ground on its competitors by having no added weaknesses from a secondary typing, and access to STAB Seed Flare, a move that it greatly benefits it from. Shaymin can run a variety of sets, including offensive sets with a Life Orb and Rest, which combined with Natural Cure offers great recovery. Shaymin can also run a more bulky set with Leech Seed, which allows it to slowly drain the HP of foes that could have otherwise outlasted it before .</p>
<p>On the whole, Shaymin is a great Pokemon in today's metagame, as it handily deals with a heap load of teams that use weather such as rain and sandstorm to their advantage. Bringing key resistances to Water, Ground, and Electric to the table make Shaymin more than viable for a teamslot, and when used correctly, it can be a great asset to a team that struggles against such threats.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move1: Seed Flare
move2: Earth Power
move3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move4: Rest / Leech Seed
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With STAB Seed Flare and great bulk, Shaymin makes a fantastic offensive tank. Being able to switch into the various bulky Water-types that plague the metagame, along with countering as well as counter some prominent threats such as Rotom-W and Tyranitar, make allow Shaymin to be more than "good" and make it a great choice for a teamslot. Shaymin also has an often overlooked base 100 Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed and threaten a lot large portion of the metagame, including. It can outspeed Heatran, Gyarados, and some Jirachi., before doing some serious damage with its strong moves. </p>
<p>Seed Flare provides great STAB, and the 40% chance to cause a Special Defense drop can sometimes allow Shaymin to sbeat a few of its usual counters. Earth Power is to hurt the Steel-types that resist Seed Flare, while also giving Shaymin the ability to lure in and KO non-Airout the coverage non-Air Balloon Heatran. Beware of a Choice Scarf though, as when it is equipped, Heatran will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last slot, rounding out the coverage. Hidden Power Fire allows Shaymin to deal with the pesky Ferrothorn, a Pokemon that will completely wall this set without it, whilst Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to lay the hurt on Dragon-types, as well as Gliscor and Landorus. Finally, Shaymin needs to run a recovery move and Rest is usually the best option, as it will fully heal Shaymin and the sleep will be negated as Shaymin switches out. Leech Seed is also a viable choice alternative, as not only does it heal Shaymin, but it also drains the HP of the opponent's HP. On the other hand, a set built around Leech Seed usually does this better, as offensive Shaymin's lack of defensive investment means that it can be often forced out, and Leech Seed is not <i>the</i> most reliable way to gain back health.</p>
(imo, that last part just isn't necessary as it's not really relevant to the set itself)
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin can use Synthesis in the last slot to gain some "reliable" recovery, but due to the prevalence of sandstorm and rain in OU, Shaymin is better off with either Rest or Leech Seed unless you are running a sun team. Growth can also be used to give Shaymin a for Special Attack boosts, but Shaymin lacks the necessary Speed to sweep through teams easily, as it is easily outsped and KOed by common revenge killers such as Terrakion, Garchomp, and Hydreigon. Even under the sun, Growth Shaymin is also outclassed by Venusaur under the sun, as with Chlorophyll, Venusaur can outspeed many potential revenge killers. Shaymin can also utilize Leftovers over Life Orb for a little more staying power, but Shaymin then loses the great power that a Life Orb Seed Flare can supply. Finally, a Modest nature and more HP EVs can make Shaymin a bulkier and more powerful sweeper, but then Shaymin loses to base 100 Speed Pokemon, Balloon Heatran. Beware of a Choice Scarf though, as when it is equipped, Heatran will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last slot, rounding Pokemon, a milestone that Shaymin usually needs to hit.</p>
<p>When looking for viable teammates to support Shaymin, one should put it in an offensive Fire / Water / Grass core. This allows Shaymin to have its weaknesses covered, whilst being able to take down the bulky Water-types that can cause trouble for the other two. Heatran is a great partner for the Fire-type slot, as it can take a few hits due to its great natural bulk, and it can also hit back extremely hard thanks to its base 130 Special Attack stat. A Water-type that will fit well with Shaymin needs to be able to take down the Fire-types which trouble Shaymin, (and deal with Dragon-types if Shaymin lacks Hidden Power Ice) as they can set up at their leisure. Jellicent and offensive Suicune are good examples; Jellicent can wall almost any Fire-type, and it has Ice Beam to deal with Dragons, while Suicune can also do does the same, and it can set up on Heatran with Calm Mind without breaking a sweat. Finally, a Steel-type is a good Pokemon to pair with Shaymin, as although they share a Fire weakness, Steel-types can help against the switch into the Dragon-types that like to switch into Shaymin. A great example is Skarmory, as it has who has no problem dealing with Garchomp and Salamence once they are locked into Outrage, and it can also help out against some Latios with a specially defensive spreads.</p>
<p>On the offensive side, a more offensive note, Pokemon which can sweep when when after bulky Water-types are removed, such as Salamence and Empoleon, also make great teammates. as Shaymin excels at dealing with bulky Water-types that can hinder them. Finally, Shaymin appreciates entry hazard support, as it often forces switches. Skarmory and Ferrothorn are perfect examples of Pokemon that can provide such support. help lay down hazards.</p>
[SET]
name: Leech Seed
move1: Leech Seed
move2: Protect / Substitute
move3: Seed Flare
move4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Earth Power
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin makes a great abuser of the SubSeed strategy due to its great bulk and STAB Seed Flare to deal significant damage to any Pokemon switching in. Leech Seed defines the set, and with Protect or Substitute, Shaymin is able to last for a very long time whilst slowly sapping away the opposing Pokemon's HP. Shaymin can also provide an added buff against the ever-so-common rain and sandstorm teams which plague the metagame, as its Grass typing gives it super effective coverage against Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types as well as and key resistances to Water and Ground as well.</p>
<p>Substitute and Leech Seed create the SubSeed combination that almost every Grass-type can run, allowing Shaymin to endlessly drain away HP from opposing Pokemon. Seed Flare is Shaymin's STAB move of choice, and it has a great 120 base power that which hits hard even with a small investment due to its great 120 Base Power. Shaymin's last moveslot provides coverage along with to complement Seed Flare. Hidden Power Fire is to hit Steel-types, most importantly Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Garchomp, whilst also giving Shaymin a way to hit Grass-types that are immune to Leech Seed. Finally, Earth Power is aHeatran somewhat viable option, as it too has super effective coverage on Steel-types, most importantly Heatran, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, who is almost the perfect counter to Shaymin without it.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Shaymin can make use of Giga Drain over Seed Flare for some extra recovery, but the drop in power is very significant due to the low investment in Shaymin's only average Special Attack stat. Shaymin is also able to use an EV spread that has more bulk a bulkier EV spread, but as it has due to its many common weaknesses, this is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, which who has many extra resistances to use to its advantage. Finally, Shaymin could be turned into made to be a more offensive Leech Seeder, but it this role would probably be outclassed by better occupied by Whimsicott, whose ability, Prankster, gives priority to its support moves, such as Taunt and Stun Spore.</p>
<p>When using Shaymin, it should almost definitely be used in a Fire / Water / Grass core as it provides the resistances that are key for the other two. If it is not included in one of these set ups, it is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, who has access to extra support options such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. as it also is able to use Spikes, granting it extra support options. Some Pokemon that work well with this Shaymin are generally more defensively inclined, so Pokemon such as Jellicent, Tentacruel,(hyphen) and Gyarados work well as the Water-type partner, whilst Heatran is generally generally is an excellent partner for the Fire-type slot. These Pokemon can also help to counter Pokemon that can set up on Shaymin. For example, Shaymin without Hidden Power Ice is setup bait for Latios, who is taken care of by specially defensive Heatran. and specially defensive Heatran generally does a good job of walling Latios. Defensive Gyarados can come in on a Garchomp that has set up on Shaymin, Intimidate it, and then Roar it away so that it takes entry hazard damage. All in all, Shaymin's teammates should be able to wall and help out against the beastly offensive threats that can come in against it, otherwise lest Shaymin becomes a burden for the team.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>In general, Shaymin lacks many other effective options outside of those listed. A Choice set is viable; however, being locked into Seed Flare is not usually a good options as Pokemon such as Thundurus, Tornadus, and Dragonite can easily come in and start firing off strong STAB attacks. A Swords Dance set could also be used, but Shaymin lacks a broad physical movepool, and as such this is not usually the best option for the hedgehog. Finally, Shaymin can might be able to run a support set, as it does pack the incredibly rare Aromatherapy, but it is often seen as outclassed by other supporters such as Blissey, Jirachi, (comma) and Vaporeon as they can offer more support for a teams on the whole.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>If Shaymin is without Earth Power, Heatran will completely destroy Shaymin as it 4x resists Seed Flare and is not troubled by any other attacks besides Leech Seed.Shaymin is unable to hit it with anything hard. Also, if Heatran carries an Air Balloon, it can even beat Shaymin that do pack Earth Power, as Shaymin will have to take one turn popping the Balloon whilst it gets roasted with a super effective STAB Fire Blast. Other Fire-types will also have an easy time coming in on Seed Flare in order to fire off powerful STAB attacks, such as Darmanitan, Infernape, and Ninetales. can come in on a resisted Seed Flare, and start sending out high powered Fire-type attacks to get in some good damage on Shaymin and the other members of the team. Dragon-types resist Seed Flare also as well, so Pokemon such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Salamence can all come in and begin to set up against Shaymin if it isn't carrying Hidden Power Ice. However, Shaymin can carry Hidden Power Ice to deal with some of these threats, so they must be careful when switching in. Finally, on the Leech Seed set, any Pokemon with Taunt and a resistance to Grass-type moves can come in and wreck Leech Seed sets Shaymin, as Shaymin is without a way to damage any of these Pokemon switching in.</p>
<p>Shaymin is one of the few Pokemon that can effectively take on the role of a bulky Grass-type. However, with competition from Celebi and Ferrothorn, Shaymin can often find itself in a difficult position when looking for a team slot. Ferrothorn is blessed with an excellent secondary Steel-typing, along with support moves such as Spikes and Stealth Rock, whilst Celebi boasts reliable recovery in Recover, boosting moves in Nasty Plot and Calm Mind, and a great Fighting resistance thanks to its secondary Psychictyping. Fortunately, However, Shaymin can gain back some ground on its competitors by having no added weaknesses from a secondary typing, and access to STAB Seed Flare, a move that it greatly benefits it from. Shaymin can run a variety of sets, including offensive sets with a Life Orb and Rest, which combined with Natural Cure offers great recovery. Shaymin can also run a more bulky set with Leech Seed, which allows it to slowly drain the HP of foes that could have otherwise outlasted it before .</p>
<p>On the whole, Shaymin is a great Pokemon in today's metagame, as it handily deals with a heap load of teams that use weather such as rain and sandstorm to their advantage. Bringing key resistances to Water, Ground, and Electric to the table make Shaymin more than viable for a teamslot, and when used correctly, it can be a great asset to a team that struggles against such threats.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move1: Seed Flare
move2: Earth Power
move3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move4: Rest / Leech Seed
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With STAB Seed Flare and great bulk, Shaymin makes a fantastic offensive tank. Being able to switch into the various bulky Water-types that plague the metagame, along with countering as well as counter some prominent threats such as Rotom-W and Tyranitar, make allow Shaymin to be more than "good" and make it a great choice for a teamslot. Shaymin also has an often overlooked base 100 Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed and threaten a lot large portion of the metagame, including. It can outspeed Heatran, Gyarados, and some Jirachi., before doing some serious damage with its strong moves. </p>
<p>Seed Flare provides great STAB, and the 40% chance to cause a Special Defense drop can sometimes allow Shaymin to sbeat a few of its usual counters. Earth Power is to hurt the Steel-types that resist Seed Flare, while also giving Shaymin the ability to lure in and KO non-Airout the coverage non-Air Balloon Heatran. Beware of a Choice Scarf though, as when it is equipped, Heatran will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last slot, rounding out the coverage. Hidden Power Fire allows Shaymin to deal with the pesky Ferrothorn, a Pokemon that will completely wall this set without it, whilst Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to lay the hurt on Dragon-types, as well as Gliscor and Landorus. Finally, Shaymin needs to run a recovery move and Rest is usually the best option, as it will fully heal Shaymin and the sleep will be negated as Shaymin switches out. Leech Seed is also a viable choice alternative, as not only does it heal Shaymin, but it also drains the HP of the opponent's HP. On the other hand, a set built around Leech Seed usually does this better, as offensive Shaymin's lack of defensive investment means that it can be often forced out, and Leech Seed is not <i>the</i> most reliable way to gain back health.</p>
(imo, that last part just isn't necessary as it's not really relevant to the set itself)
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin can use Synthesis in the last slot to gain some "reliable" recovery, but due to the prevalence of sandstorm and rain in OU, Shaymin is better off with either Rest or Leech Seed unless you are running a sun team. Growth can also be used to give Shaymin a for Special Attack boosts, but Shaymin lacks the necessary Speed to sweep through teams easily, as it is easily outsped and KOed by common revenge killers such as Terrakion, Garchomp, and Hydreigon. Even under the sun, Growth Shaymin is also outclassed by Venusaur under the sun, as with Chlorophyll, Venusaur can outspeed many potential revenge killers. Shaymin can also utilize Leftovers over Life Orb for a little more staying power, but Shaymin then loses the great power that a Life Orb Seed Flare can supply. Finally, a Modest nature and more HP EVs can make Shaymin a bulkier and more powerful sweeper, but then Shaymin loses to base 100 Speed Pokemon, Balloon Heatran. Beware of a Choice Scarf though, as when it is equipped, Heatran will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last slot, rounding Pokemon, a milestone that Shaymin usually needs to hit.</p>
<p>When looking for viable teammates to support Shaymin, one should put it in an offensive Fire / Water / Grass core. This allows Shaymin to have its weaknesses covered, whilst being able to take down the bulky Water-types that can cause trouble for the other two. Heatran is a great partner for the Fire-type slot, as it can take a few hits due to its great natural bulk, and it can also hit back extremely hard thanks to its base 130 Special Attack stat. A Water-type that will fit well with Shaymin needs to be able to take down the Fire-types which trouble Shaymin, (and deal with Dragon-types if Shaymin lacks Hidden Power Ice) as they can set up at their leisure. Jellicent and offensive Suicune are good examples; Jellicent can wall almost any Fire-type, and it has Ice Beam to deal with Dragons, while Suicune can also do does the same, and it can set up on Heatran with Calm Mind without breaking a sweat. Finally, a Steel-type is a good Pokemon to pair with Shaymin, as although they share a Fire weakness, Steel-types can help against the switch into the Dragon-types that like to switch into Shaymin. A great example is Skarmory, as it has who has no problem dealing with Garchomp and Salamence once they are locked into Outrage, and it can also help out against some Latios with a specially defensive spreads.</p>
<p>On the offensive side, a more offensive note, Pokemon which can sweep when when after bulky Water-types are removed, such as Salamence and Empoleon, also make great teammates. as Shaymin excels at dealing with bulky Water-types that can hinder them. Finally, Shaymin appreciates entry hazard support, as it often forces switches. Skarmory and Ferrothorn are perfect examples of Pokemon that can provide such support. help lay down hazards.</p>
[SET]
name: Leech Seed
move1: Leech Seed
move2: Protect / Substitute
move3: Seed Flare
move4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Earth Power
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin makes a great abuser of the SubSeed strategy due to its great bulk and STAB Seed Flare to deal significant damage to any Pokemon switching in. Leech Seed defines the set, and with Protect or Substitute, Shaymin is able to last for a very long time whilst slowly sapping away the opposing Pokemon's HP. Shaymin can also provide an added buff against the ever-so-common rain and sandstorm teams which plague the metagame, as its Grass typing gives it super effective coverage against Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types as well as and key resistances to Water and Ground as well.</p>
<p>Substitute and Leech Seed create the SubSeed combination that almost every Grass-type can run, allowing Shaymin to endlessly drain away HP from opposing Pokemon. Seed Flare is Shaymin's STAB move of choice, and it has a great 120 base power that which hits hard even with a small investment due to its great 120 Base Power. Shaymin's last moveslot provides coverage along with to complement Seed Flare. Hidden Power Fire is to hit Steel-types, most importantly Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Garchomp, whilst also giving Shaymin a way to hit Grass-types that are immune to Leech Seed. Finally, Earth Power is aHeatran somewhat viable option, as it too has super effective coverage on Steel-types, most importantly Heatran, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, who is almost the perfect counter to Shaymin without it.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Shaymin can make use of Giga Drain over Seed Flare for some extra recovery, but the drop in power is very significant due to the low investment in Shaymin's only average Special Attack stat. Shaymin is also able to use an EV spread that has more bulk a bulkier EV spread, but as it has due to its many common weaknesses, this is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, which who has many extra resistances to use to its advantage. Finally, Shaymin could be turned into made to be a more offensive Leech Seeder, but it this role would probably be outclassed by better occupied by Whimsicott, whose ability, Prankster, gives priority to its support moves, such as Taunt and Stun Spore.</p>
<p>When using Shaymin, it should almost definitely be used in a Fire / Water / Grass core as it provides the resistances that are key for the other two. If it is not included in one of these set ups, it is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, who has access to extra support options such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. as it also is able to use Spikes, granting it extra support options. Some Pokemon that work well with this Shaymin are generally more defensively inclined, so Pokemon such as Jellicent, Tentacruel,(hyphen) and Gyarados work well as the Water-type partner, whilst Heatran is generally generally is an excellent partner for the Fire-type slot. These Pokemon can also help to counter Pokemon that can set up on Shaymin. For example, Shaymin without Hidden Power Ice is setup bait for Latios, who is taken care of by specially defensive Heatran. and specially defensive Heatran generally does a good job of walling Latios. Defensive Gyarados can come in on a Garchomp that has set up on Shaymin, Intimidate it, and then Roar it away so that it takes entry hazard damage. All in all, Shaymin's teammates should be able to wall and help out against the beastly offensive threats that can come in against it, otherwise lest Shaymin becomes a burden for the team.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>In general, Shaymin lacks many other effective options outside of those listed. A Choice set is viable; however, being locked into Seed Flare is not usually a good options as Pokemon such as Thundurus, Tornadus, and Dragonite can easily come in and start firing off strong STAB attacks. A Swords Dance set could also be used, but Shaymin lacks a broad physical movepool, and as such this is not usually the best option for the hedgehog. Finally, Shaymin can might be able to run a support set, as it does pack the incredibly rare Aromatherapy, but it is often seen as outclassed by other supporters such as Blissey, Jirachi, (comma) and Vaporeon as they can offer more support for a teams on the whole.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>If Shaymin is without Earth Power, Heatran will completely destroy Shaymin as it 4x resists Seed Flare and is not troubled by any other attacks besides Leech Seed.Shaymin is unable to hit it with anything hard. Also, if Heatran carries an Air Balloon, it can even beat Shaymin that do pack Earth Power, as Shaymin will have to take one turn popping the Balloon whilst it gets roasted with a super effective STAB Fire Blast. Other Fire-types will also have an easy time coming in on Seed Flare in order to fire off powerful STAB attacks, such as Darmanitan, Infernape, and Ninetales. can come in on a resisted Seed Flare, and start sending out high powered Fire-type attacks to get in some good damage on Shaymin and the other members of the team. Dragon-types resist Seed Flare also as well, so Pokemon such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Salamence can all come in and begin to set up against Shaymin if it isn't carrying Hidden Power Ice. However, Shaymin can carry Hidden Power Ice to deal with some of these threats, so they must be careful when switching in. Finally, on the Leech Seed set, any Pokemon with Taunt and a resistance to Grass-type moves can come in and wreck Leech Seed sets Shaymin, as Shaymin is without a way to damage any of these Pokemon switching in.</p>
GP 2/2
im not, but erebyssial can you please use wekhter's check as a guide as to how those sentences should look?
Changes in bold
Removals in red
Comments in bold red
[Overview]
<p>Shaymin is one of the few Pokemon that can effectively take on the role of a bulky Grass-type. However, with competition from Celebi and Ferrothorn, Shaymin can often finds itself in a difficult position when looking for a team slot. Ferrothorn is blessed with an excellent secondary Steel typing, along with support moves such as Spikes and Stealth Rock, whilst Celebi boasts reliable recovery in Recover, boosting moves in Nasty Plot and Calm Mind, and a great Fighting resistance. Fortunately, Shaymin can gain back some ground on its competitors by having no added weaknesses from a secondary typing, and access to STAB Seed Flare, a move that it greatly benefits from. Shaymin can run a variety of sets, including offensive sets with a Life Orb and Rest, which combined with Natural Cure offers great recovery. Shaymin can also run a more bulky set with Leech Seed, which allows it to slowly drain the HP of foes that could have otherwise outlasted it.</p>
<p>On the whole, Shaymin is a great Pokemon in today's metagame, as it handily deals with a heap-load of rain and sandstorm teams that use weather such as rain and sandstorm to their advantage, (comma) bringing key resistances to Water, Ground, and Electric to the table make Shaymin more than viable for a teamslot, and when used correctly, it can be a great asset to a team that struggles against such threats.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move1: Seed Flare
move2: Earth Power
move3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move4: Rest / Leech Seed
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With STAB Seed Flare and great bulk, Shaymin makes a fantastic offensive tank. Being able to switch into the various bulky Water-types that plague the metagame, as well as counter some prominent threats such as Rotom-W and Tyranitar, make Shaymin a great choice for a teamslot. Shaymin also has an often overlooked base 100 Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed and threaten a large portion of the metagame, including Heatran, Gyarados, and some Jirachi.</p>
<p>Seed Flare provides great STAB, and the 40% chance to cause a Special Defense drop can sometimes allow Shaymin to beat a few of its usual counters. Earth Power is to hurt the Steel-types that resist Seed Flare, while also giving Shaymin the ability to lure in and KO non-Air Balloon Heatran. Beware of a Choice Scarf variants though, as when it is equipped, they will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last slot, rounding out the coverage. Hidden Power Fire allows Shaymin to deal with the pesky Ferrothorn, a Pokemon that will completely wall this set without it, whilst Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to lay the hurt on Dragon-types, as well as Gliscor and Landorus. Finally, Shaymin needs to run a recovery move and Rest is usually the best option, as it will fully heal Shaymin and the induced sleep will be negated when Shaymin switches out. Leech Seed is a viable alternative, as not only does it heal Shaymin, but it also drains opponent's HP.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin can use Synthesis in the last slot to gain some "reliable" recovery, but due to the prevalence of sandstorm and rain in OU, Shaymin is better off with either Rest or Leech Seed unless you are running a sun team. Growth can also be used for a Special Attack boost, but Shaymin lacks the necessary Speed to sweep through teams, as it is easily outsped and KOed by common revenge killers such as Terrakion, Garchomp, and Hydreigon. Even under the sun, Growth Shaymin is outclassed by Venusaur, as with Chlorophyll, Venusaur can outspeed many potential revenge killers. Shaymin can also utilize Leftovers over Life Orb for a little more staying power, but Shaymin then loses the great power that a Life Orb Seed Flare can supply. Finally, a Modest nature and more HP EVs can make Shaymin a bulkier and more powerful sweeper, but then loses to base 100 Speed Pokemon, a milestone that Shaymin usually needs to hit.</p>
<p>When looking for viable teammates to support Shaymin, one should put it in an offensive Fire / Water / Grass core. This allows Shaymin to have its weaknesses covered, whilst being able to take down the bulky Water-types that can cause trouble for the other two. Heatran is a great partner for the Fire-type slot, as it can take a few hits due to its great natural bulk and hit back extremely hard thanks to its base 130 Special Attack stat. A Water-type that will fit well with Shaymin needs to be able to take down the Fire-types which trouble Shaymin(space)(and Dragon-types if Shaymin lacks Hidden Power Ice) as they can set up at their leisure. Jellicent and offensive Suicune are good examples; Jellicent can wall almost any Fire-type and has Ice Beam to deal with Dragons, while Suicune does the same and can set up on Heatran without breaking a sweat. Finally, a Steel-type is a good Pokemon to pair with Shaymin, as although they share a Fire weakness, Steel-types can switch into the Dragon-types that like to switch into Shaymin. A great example is Skarmory, who has no problem dealing with Garchomp and Salamence once they are locked into Outrage, and it can also help out against some Latios with a specially defensive spread.</p>
<p>On the offensive side, Pokemon that can sweep after bulky Water-types are removed, such as Salamence and Empoleon, also make great teammates. Finally, Shaymin appreciates entry hazard support, as it often forces switches. Skarmory and Ferrothorn are perfect examples of Pokemon that can provide such support.</p>
[SET]
name: Leech Seed
move1: Leech Seed
move2: Protect / Substitute
move3: Seed Flare
move4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Earth Power
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin makes a great abuser of the SubSeed strategy due to its great bulk and STAB Seed Flare to deal significant damage to any Pokemon switching in. Leech Seed defines the set, and with Protect or Substitute, Shaymin is able to last for a very long time whilst slowly sapping away the opposing Pokemon's HP. Shaymin can also provide an added buff against the ever-so-common rain and sandstorm teams that plague the metagame, as its Grass typing gives it super effective coverage against Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types as well as key resistances to Water and Ground.</p>
<p>Substitute and Leech Seed create the SubSeed combination that almost every Grass-type can run, allowing Shaymin to endlessly drain away HP from opposing Pokemon. Seed Flare is Shaymin's STAB move of choice, which hits hard even with a small investment due to its great 120 Base Power. Shaymin's last moveslot provides coverage to complement Seed Flare. Hidden Power Fire is to hit Steel-types, most importantly Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Garchomp, whilst also giving Shaymin a way to hit Grass-types that are immune to Leech Seed. Finally, Earth Power is a somewhat viable option, as it too has super effective coverage on Steel-types, most importantly Heatran, who is almost the perfect counter to Shaymin without it.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Shaymin can make use of Giga Drain over Seed Flare for some extra recovery, but the drop in power is very significant due to the low investment in Shaymin's average Special Attack stat. Shaymin is also able to use a bulkier EV spread, but due to its many common weaknesses, this is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, which has many extra resistances to use to its advantage. Finally, Shaymin could be turned into a more offensive Leech Seeder, but this role would probably be better occupied by Whimsicott, whose ability, Prankster, gives priority to its support moves, such as Taunt and Stun Spore.</p>
<p>When using Shaymin, it should almost definitely be used in a Fire / Water / Grass core as it provides the resistances that are key for the other two. If it is not included in one of these set ups, it is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, who has access to extra support options such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. Some Pokemon that work well with this Shaymin are generally more defensively inclined, so Pokemon such as Jellicent, Tentacruel, and Gyarados work well as the Water-type partner, whilst Heatran is generally an excellent partner for the Fire-type slot. These Pokemon can also help to counter Pokemon that can set up on Shaymin. For example, Shaymin without Hidden Power Ice is setup bait for Latios, who is taken care of by specially defensive Heatran. Defensive Gyarados can come in on a Garchomp that has set up on Shaymin, Intimidate it, and then Roar it away so that it takes entry hazard damage. All in all, Shaymin's teammates should be able to wall and help out against the beastly offensive threats that can come in against it, lest Shaymin becomes a burden for the team.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>In general, Shaymin lacks many other effective options outside of those listed. A Choice set is viable; however, being locked into Seed Flare is not usually a good option as Pokemon such as Thundurus, Tornadus, and Dragonite can easily come in and start firing off strong STAB attacks. A Swords Dance set could also be used, but Shaymin lacks a broad physical movepool, and as such is not usually the best option for the hedgehog. Finally, Shaymin can run a support set, as it does pack the incredibly rare Aromatherapy, but it is often seen as outclassed by other supporters such as Blissey, Jirachi, and Vaporeon as they can offer more support for teams on the whole.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>If Shaymin is without Earth Power, Heatran will completely destroy Shaymin as it 4x resists Seed Flare and is not troubled by any other attacks besides Leech Seed. Also, if Heatran carries an Air Balloon, it can even beat Shaymin that do pack Earth Power, as Shaymin will have to take one turn popping the Balloon whilst it gets roasted with a super effective STAB Fire Blast. Other Fire-types will also have an easy time coming in on Seed Flare in order to fire off powerful STAB attacks, such as Darmanitan, Infernape, and Ninetales. Dragon-types resist Seed Flare as well, so Pokemon such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Salamence can all come in and begin to set up against Shaymin if it isn't carrying Hidden Power Ice. Finally, any Pokemon with Taunt and a resistance to Grass-type moves can come in and wreck Leech Seed sets, as Shaymin is without a way to damage any of these Pokemon switching in.</p>
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[Overview]
<p>Shaymin is one of the few Pokemon that can effectively take on the role of a bulky Grass-type. However, with competition from Celebi and Ferrothorn, Shaymin can often finds itself in a difficult position when looking for a team slot. Ferrothorn is blessed with an excellent secondary Steel typing, along with support moves such as Spikes and Stealth Rock, whilst Celebi boasts reliable recovery in Recover, boosting moves in Nasty Plot and Calm Mind, and a great Fighting resistance. Fortunately, Shaymin can gain back some ground on its competitors by having no added weaknesses from a secondary typing, and access to STAB Seed Flare, a move that it greatly benefits from. Shaymin can run a variety of sets, including offensive sets with a Life Orb and Rest, which combined with Natural Cure offers great recovery. Shaymin can also run a more bulky set with Leech Seed, which allows it to slowly drain the HP of foes that could have otherwise outlasted it.</p>
<p>On the whole, Shaymin is a great Pokemon in today's metagame, as it handily deals with a heap-load of rain and sandstorm teams that use weather such as rain and sandstorm to their advantage, (comma) bringing key resistances to Water, Ground, and Electric to the table make Shaymin more than viable for a teamslot, and when used correctly, it can be a great asset to a team that struggles against such threats.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move1: Seed Flare
move2: Earth Power
move3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move4: Rest / Leech Seed
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With STAB Seed Flare and great bulk, Shaymin makes a fantastic offensive tank. Being able to switch into the various bulky Water-types that plague the metagame, as well as counter some prominent threats such as Rotom-W and Tyranitar, make Shaymin a great choice for a teamslot. Shaymin also has an often overlooked base 100 Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed and threaten a large portion of the metagame, including Heatran, Gyarados, and some Jirachi.</p>
<p>Seed Flare provides great STAB, and the 40% chance to cause a Special Defense drop can sometimes allow Shaymin to beat a few of its usual counters. Earth Power is to hurt the Steel-types that resist Seed Flare, while also giving Shaymin the ability to lure in and KO non-Air Balloon Heatran. Beware of a Choice Scarf variants though, as when it is equipped, they will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last slot, rounding out the coverage. Hidden Power Fire allows Shaymin to deal with the pesky Ferrothorn, a Pokemon that will completely wall this set without it, whilst Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to lay the hurt on Dragon-types, as well as Gliscor and Landorus. Finally, Shaymin needs to run a recovery move and Rest is usually the best option, as it will fully heal Shaymin and the induced sleep will be negated when Shaymin switches out. Leech Seed is a viable alternative, as not only does it heal Shaymin, but it also drains opponent's HP.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin can use Synthesis in the last slot to gain some "reliable" recovery, but due to the prevalence of sandstorm and rain in OU, Shaymin is better off with either Rest or Leech Seed unless you are running a sun team. Growth can also be used for a Special Attack boost, but Shaymin lacks the necessary Speed to sweep through teams, as it is easily outsped and KOed by common revenge killers such as Terrakion, Garchomp, and Hydreigon. Even under the sun, Growth Shaymin is outclassed by Venusaur, as with Chlorophyll, Venusaur can outspeed many potential revenge killers. Shaymin can also utilize Leftovers over Life Orb for a little more staying power, but Shaymin then loses the great power that a Life Orb Seed Flare can supply. Finally, a Modest nature and more HP EVs can make Shaymin a bulkier and more powerful sweeper, but then loses to base 100 Speed Pokemon, a milestone that Shaymin usually needs to hit.</p>
<p>When looking for viable teammates to support Shaymin, one should put it in an offensive Fire / Water / Grass core. This allows Shaymin to have its weaknesses covered, whilst being able to take down the bulky Water-types that can cause trouble for the other two. Heatran is a great partner for the Fire-type slot, as it can take a few hits due to its great natural bulk and hit back extremely hard thanks to its base 130 Special Attack stat. A Water-type that will fit well with Shaymin needs to be able to take down the Fire-types which trouble Shaymin(space)(and Dragon-types if Shaymin lacks Hidden Power Ice) as they can set up at their leisure. Jellicent and offensive Suicune are good examples; Jellicent can wall almost any Fire-type and has Ice Beam to deal with Dragons, while Suicune does the same and can set up on Heatran without breaking a sweat. Finally, a Steel-type is a good Pokemon to pair with Shaymin, as although they share a Fire weakness, Steel-types can switch into the Dragon-types that like to switch into Shaymin. A great example is Skarmory, who has no problem dealing with Garchomp and Salamence once they are locked into Outrage, and it can also help out against some Latios with a specially defensive spread.</p>
<p>On the offensive side, Pokemon that can sweep after bulky Water-types are removed, such as Salamence and Empoleon, also make great teammates. Finally, Shaymin appreciates entry hazard support, as it often forces switches. Skarmory and Ferrothorn are perfect examples of Pokemon that can provide such support.</p>
[SET]
name: Leech Seed
move1: Leech Seed
move2: Protect / Substitute
move3: Seed Flare
move4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Earth Power
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin makes a great abuser of the SubSeed strategy due to its great bulk and STAB Seed Flare to deal significant damage to any Pokemon switching in. Leech Seed defines the set, and with Protect or Substitute, Shaymin is able to last for a very long time whilst slowly sapping away the opposing Pokemon's HP. Shaymin can also provide an added buff against the ever-so-common rain and sandstorm teams that plague the metagame, as its Grass typing gives it super effective coverage against Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types as well as key resistances to Water and Ground.</p>
<p>Substitute and Leech Seed create the SubSeed combination that almost every Grass-type can run, allowing Shaymin to endlessly drain away HP from opposing Pokemon. Seed Flare is Shaymin's STAB move of choice, which hits hard even with a small investment due to its great 120 Base Power. Shaymin's last moveslot provides coverage to complement Seed Flare. Hidden Power Fire is to hit Steel-types, most importantly Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Garchomp, whilst also giving Shaymin a way to hit Grass-types that are immune to Leech Seed. Finally, Earth Power is a somewhat viable option, as it too has super effective coverage on Steel-types, most importantly Heatran, who is almost the perfect counter to Shaymin without it.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Shaymin can make use of Giga Drain over Seed Flare for some extra recovery, but the drop in power is very significant due to the low investment in Shaymin's average Special Attack stat. Shaymin is also able to use a bulkier EV spread, but due to its many common weaknesses, this is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, which has many extra resistances to use to its advantage. Finally, Shaymin could be turned into a more offensive Leech Seeder, but this role would probably be better occupied by Whimsicott, whose ability, Prankster, gives priority to its support moves, such as Taunt and Stun Spore.</p>
<p>When using Shaymin, it should almost definitely be used in a Fire / Water / Grass core as it provides the resistances that are key for the other two. If it is not included in one of these set ups, it is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, who has access to extra support options such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. Some Pokemon that work well with this Shaymin are generally more defensively inclined, so Pokemon such as Jellicent, Tentacruel, and Gyarados work well as the Water-type partner, whilst Heatran is generally an excellent partner for the Fire-type slot. These Pokemon can also help to counter Pokemon that can set up on Shaymin. For example, Shaymin without Hidden Power Ice is setup bait for Latios, who is taken care of by specially defensive Heatran. Defensive Gyarados can come in on a Garchomp that has set up on Shaymin, Intimidate it, and then Roar it away so that it takes entry hazard damage. All in all, Shaymin's teammates should be able to wall and help out against the beastly offensive threats that can come in against it, lest Shaymin becomes a burden for the team.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>In general, Shaymin lacks many other effective options outside of those listed. A Choice set is viable; however, being locked into Seed Flare is not usually a good option as Pokemon such as Thundurus, Tornadus, and Dragonite can easily come in and start firing off strong STAB attacks. A Swords Dance set could also be used, but Shaymin lacks a broad physical movepool, and as such is not usually the best option for the hedgehog. Finally, Shaymin can run a support set, as it does pack the incredibly rare Aromatherapy, but it is often seen as outclassed by other supporters such as Blissey, Jirachi, and Vaporeon as they can offer more support for teams on the whole.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>If Shaymin is without Earth Power, Heatran will completely destroy Shaymin as it 4x resists Seed Flare and is not troubled by any other attacks besides Leech Seed. Also, if Heatran carries an Air Balloon, it can even beat Shaymin that do pack Earth Power, as Shaymin will have to take one turn popping the Balloon whilst it gets roasted with a super effective STAB Fire Blast. Other Fire-types will also have an easy time coming in on Seed Flare in order to fire off powerful STAB attacks, such as Darmanitan, Infernape, and Ninetales. Dragon-types resist Seed Flare as well, so Pokemon such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Salamence can all come in and begin to set up against Shaymin if it isn't carrying Hidden Power Ice. Finally, any Pokemon with Taunt and a resistance to Grass-type moves can come in and wreck Leech Seed sets, as Shaymin is without a way to damage any of these Pokemon switching in.</p>
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[Overview]
<p>Shaymin is one of the few Pokemon that can effectively take on the role of a bulky Grass-type. However, with competition from Celebi and Ferrothorn, Shaymin often finds itself in a difficult position when looking for a team slot. Ferrothorn is blessed with an excellent secondary Steel typing, along with support moves such as Spikes and Stealth Rock, while Celebi boasts reliable recovery in Recover, boosting moves in Nasty Plot and Calm Mind, and a great Fighting-type resistance. Fortunately, Shaymin can gain back some ground on its competitors by having no added weaknesses from a secondary typing, and access to STAB Seed Flare, a move that it greatly benefits from. Shaymin can run a variety of sets, including offensive sets with a Life Orb and Rest, which combined in conjunction with Natural Cure offers great recovery. Shaymin can also run a more bulky set with Leech Seed, which allows it to slowly drain the HP of foes that could have otherwise outlasted it.</p>
<p>On the whole, Shaymin is a great Pokemon in today's metagame, as it handily deals with a heap-load of rain and sandstorm teams, bringing key resistances to Water-, Ground-, and Electric-type attacks to the table. This makes Shaymin more than viable for a teamslot, and when used correctly, it can be a great asset to a team that struggles against such threats.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move1: Seed Flare
move2: Earth Power
move3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move4: Rest / Leech Seed
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With STAB Seed Flare and great bulk, Shaymin makes a fantastic offensive tank. Being able to switch into the various bulky Water-types that plague the metagame, as well as counter some prominent threats such as Rotom-W and Tyranitar, make Shaymin a great choice for a teamslot. Shaymin also has an often overlooked base 100 Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed and threaten a large portion of the metagame, including Heatran, Gyarados, and some Jirachi.</p>
<p>Seed Flare provides great STAB, and the 40% chance to cause a Special Defense drop can sometimes allow Shaymin to beat a few of its usual counters. Earth Power is to hurt the Steel-types that resist Seed Flare, while also giving Shaymin the ability to lure in and KO non-Air Balloon Heatran. Beware of Choice Scarf variants though, as they will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last slot, rounding out the coverage. Hidden Power Fire allows Shaymin to deal with the pesky Ferrothorn, a Pokemon that will completely wall this set without it, while Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to lay the hurt on Dragon-types, as well as Gliscor and Landorus. Finally, Shaymin needs to run a recovery move, and Rest is usually the best option, as it will fully heal Shaymin and the induced sleep will be negated when Shaymin switches out. Leech Seed is a viable alternative, as not only does it heal Shaymin, but it also drains the opponent's HP.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin can use Synthesis in the last slot to gain some "reliable" recovery, but due to the prevalence of sandstorm and rain in OU, Shaymin is better off with either Rest or Leech Seed unless you are running a sun team. Growth can also be used for a Special Attack boost, but Shaymin lacks the necessary Speed to sweep through teams, as it is easily outsped and KOed by common revenge killers such as Terrakion, Garchomp, and Hydreigon. Even under the sun, Growth Shaymin is outclassed by Venusaur, as with Chlorophyll, Venusaur can outspeed many potential revenge killers. Shaymin can utilize Leftovers over Life Orb for a little more staying power, but Shaymin then loses the great power that a Life Orb-boosted Seed Flare can supply. Finally, a Modest nature and more HP EVs can make Shaymin a bulkier and more powerful sweeper, but it then loses to base 100 Speed Pokemon with base 100 Speed, a milestone that Shaymin usually needs to hit something which Shaymin cannot afford to do.</p>
<p>When looking for viable teammates to support Shaymin, one should put it in an offensive Fire / Water / Grass core. This allows Shaymin to have its weaknesses covered, whilst being able to take down the bulky Water-types that can cause trouble for the other two. Heatran is a great partner for the Fire-type slot, as it can take a few hits due to its great natural bulk and hit back extremely hard thanks to its base 130 Special Attack stat. A Water-type that will fit well with Shaymin needs to be able to take down the Fire-types which trouble Shaymin (and Dragon-types if Shaymin lacks Hidden Power Ice) as they can set up at their leisure. Jellicent and offensive Suicune are good examples; Jellicent can wall almost any Fire-type and has Ice Beam to deal with Dragon-types, while Suicune does the same and can set up on Heatran without breaking a sweat. Finally, a Steel-type is a good Pokemon to pair with Shaymin, as although they share a Fire-type weakness, Steel-types can switch into the Dragon-types that like to switch into Shaymin. A great example is Skarmory, who has no problem dealing with Garchomp and Salamence once they are locked into Outrage, and it can also help out against some Latios with a specially defensive spread.</p>
<p>On the offensive side, Pokemon that can sweep after bulky Water-types are removed, such as Salamence and Empoleon, also make great teammates. Finally, Shaymin appreciates entry hazard support, as it often forces switches. Skarmory and Ferrothorn are perfect examples of Pokemon that can provide such support.</p>
[SET]
name: Leech Seed
move1: Leech Seed
move2: Protect / Substitute
move3: Seed Flare
move4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Earth Power
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin makes a great abuser of the SubSeed strategy due thanks to its great bulk and STAB Seed Flare to dealing significant damage to any Pokemon switching in. Leech Seed defines the set, and with Protect or Substitute, Shaymin is able to last for a very long time whilst slowly sapping away the opposing Pokemon's HP. Shaymin can also provide an added buff against the ever-so-common rain and sandstorm teams that plague the metagame, as its Grass typing gives it super effective coverage against Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types as well as key resistances to Water- and Ground-type attacks.</p>
<p>Substitute and Leech Seed create the SubSeed combination that almost every Grass-type can run, allowing Shaymin to endlessly drain away HP from opposing Pokemon. Seed Flare is Shaymin's STAB move of choice, which hits hard even with a small investment due to its great 120 Base Power. Shaymin's last moveslot provides coverage to complement Seed Flare. Hidden Power Fire is to hit Steel-types, most importantly Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Garchomp, while also giving Shaymin a way to hit Grass-types that are immune to Leech Seed. Finally, Earth Power is a somewhat viable option, as it too has super effective coverage on Steel-types, most importantly Heatran, who is almost the perfect counter to Shaymin without it.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Shaymin can make use of Giga Drain over Seed Flare for some extra recovery, but the drop in power is very significant due to the low investment in Shaymin's average Special Attack stat. Shaymin is also able to use a bulkier EV spread, but due to its many common weaknesses, this is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, which has many extra resistances to use to its advantage. Finally, Shaymin could be turned into a more offensive Leech Seed user, but this role would probably be better occupied by Whimsicott, whose ability, Prankster, gives priority to its support moves, such as Taunt and Stun Spore.</p>
<p>When using Shaymin, it should almost definitely be used in a Fire / Water / Grass core as it provides the resistances that are key for the other two. If it is not included in one of these set ups defensive cores, it is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, who has access to extra support options such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. Some Pokemon that work well with this Shaymin are generally more defensively inclined, so Pokemon such as Jellicent, Tentacruel, and Gyarados work well as the Water-type partner, whilst Heatran is generally an excellent partner for the Fire-type slot. These Pokemon can also help to counter Pokemon that can set up on Shaymin. For example, Shaymin without Hidden Power Ice is setup bait for Latios, who is taken care of by specially defensive Heatran. Defensive Gyarados can come in on a Garchomp that has set up on Shaymin, Intimidate it, and then Roar it away so that it takes entry hazard damage. All in all, Shaymin's teammates should be able to wall and help out against the beastly offensive threats that can come in against it, lest Shaymin becomes a burden for the team.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>In general, Shaymin lacks many other effective options outside of those listed. A Choice set is viable; however, being locked into Seed Flare is not usually a good option as Pokemon such as Thundurus, Tornadus, and Dragonite can easily come in and start firing off strong STAB attacks. A Swords Dance set could also be used, but Shaymin lacks a broad physical movepool, and as such is not usually the best option for the hedgehog. Finally, Shaymin can run a support set, as it does pack the incredibly rare Aromatherapy, but it is often seen as outclassed by other supporters such as Blissey, Jirachi, and Vaporeon, as they can offer more support for teams on the whole.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>If Shaymin is without Earth Power, Heatran will completely destroy Shaymin lacking Earth Power, as it 4x resists Seed Flare and is not troubled by any other attacks besides Leech Seed. Also, if Heatran carries an Air Balloon, it can even beat Shaymin that do pack Earth Power, as Shaymin will have to take one turn popping the Balloon whilst it gets roasted with a super effective STAB Fire Blast. Other Fire-types will also have an easy time coming in on Seed Flare in order to fire off powerful STAB attacks, such as Darmanitan, Infernape, and Ninetales. Dragon-types resist Seed Flare as well, so Pokemon such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Salamence can all come in and begin to set up against Shaymin if it isn't carrying Hidden Power Ice. Finally, any Pokemon with Taunt and a resistance to Grass-type moves can come in and wreck Leech Seed sets, as Shaymin is without a way to damage any of these Pokemon switching in.</p>
<p>Shaymin is one of the few Pokemon that can effectively take on the role of a bulky Grass-type. However, with competition from Celebi and Ferrothorn, Shaymin often finds itself in a difficult position when looking for a team slot. Ferrothorn is blessed with an excellent secondary Steel typing, along with support moves such as Spikes and Stealth Rock, while Celebi boasts reliable recovery in Recover, boosting moves in Nasty Plot and Calm Mind, and a great Fighting-type resistance. Fortunately, Shaymin can gain back some ground on its competitors by having no added weaknesses from a secondary typing, and access to STAB Seed Flare, a move that it greatly benefits from. Shaymin can run a variety of sets, including offensive sets with a Life Orb and Rest, which combined in conjunction with Natural Cure offers great recovery. Shaymin can also run a more bulky set with Leech Seed, which allows it to slowly drain the HP of foes that could have otherwise outlasted it.</p>
<p>On the whole, Shaymin is a great Pokemon in today's metagame, as it handily deals with a heap-load of rain and sandstorm teams, bringing key resistances to Water-, Ground-, and Electric-type attacks to the table. This makes Shaymin more than viable for a teamslot, and when used correctly, it can be a great asset to a team that struggles against such threats.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move1: Seed Flare
move2: Earth Power
move3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move4: Rest / Leech Seed
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With STAB Seed Flare and great bulk, Shaymin makes a fantastic offensive tank. Being able to switch into the various bulky Water-types that plague the metagame, as well as counter some prominent threats such as Rotom-W and Tyranitar, make Shaymin a great choice for a teamslot. Shaymin also has an often overlooked base 100 Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed and threaten a large portion of the metagame, including Heatran, Gyarados, and some Jirachi.</p>
<p>Seed Flare provides great STAB, and the 40% chance to cause a Special Defense drop can sometimes allow Shaymin to beat a few of its usual counters. Earth Power is to hurt the Steel-types that resist Seed Flare, while also giving Shaymin the ability to lure in and KO non-Air Balloon Heatran. Beware of Choice Scarf variants though, as they will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last slot, rounding out the coverage. Hidden Power Fire allows Shaymin to deal with the pesky Ferrothorn, a Pokemon that will completely wall this set without it, while Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to lay the hurt on Dragon-types, as well as Gliscor and Landorus. Finally, Shaymin needs to run a recovery move, and Rest is usually the best option, as it will fully heal Shaymin and the induced sleep will be negated when Shaymin switches out. Leech Seed is a viable alternative, as not only does it heal Shaymin, but it also drains the opponent's HP.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin can use Synthesis in the last slot to gain some "reliable" recovery, but due to the prevalence of sandstorm and rain in OU, Shaymin is better off with either Rest or Leech Seed unless you are running a sun team. Growth can also be used for a Special Attack boost, but Shaymin lacks the necessary Speed to sweep through teams, as it is easily outsped and KOed by common revenge killers such as Terrakion, Garchomp, and Hydreigon. Even under the sun, Growth Shaymin is outclassed by Venusaur, as with Chlorophyll, Venusaur can outspeed many potential revenge killers. Shaymin can utilize Leftovers over Life Orb for a little more staying power, but Shaymin then loses the great power that a Life Orb-boosted Seed Flare can supply. Finally, a Modest nature and more HP EVs can make Shaymin a bulkier and more powerful sweeper, but it then loses to base 100 Speed Pokemon with base 100 Speed, a milestone that Shaymin usually needs to hit something which Shaymin cannot afford to do.</p>
<p>When looking for viable teammates to support Shaymin, one should put it in an offensive Fire / Water / Grass core. This allows Shaymin to have its weaknesses covered, whilst being able to take down the bulky Water-types that can cause trouble for the other two. Heatran is a great partner for the Fire-type slot, as it can take a few hits due to its great natural bulk and hit back extremely hard thanks to its base 130 Special Attack stat. A Water-type that will fit well with Shaymin needs to be able to take down the Fire-types which trouble Shaymin (and Dragon-types if Shaymin lacks Hidden Power Ice) as they can set up at their leisure. Jellicent and offensive Suicune are good examples; Jellicent can wall almost any Fire-type and has Ice Beam to deal with Dragon-types, while Suicune does the same and can set up on Heatran without breaking a sweat. Finally, a Steel-type is a good Pokemon to pair with Shaymin, as although they share a Fire-type weakness, Steel-types can switch into the Dragon-types that like to switch into Shaymin. A great example is Skarmory, who has no problem dealing with Garchomp and Salamence once they are locked into Outrage, and it can also help out against some Latios with a specially defensive spread.</p>
<p>On the offensive side, Pokemon that can sweep after bulky Water-types are removed, such as Salamence and Empoleon, also make great teammates. Finally, Shaymin appreciates entry hazard support, as it often forces switches. Skarmory and Ferrothorn are perfect examples of Pokemon that can provide such support.</p>
[SET]
name: Leech Seed
move1: Leech Seed
move2: Protect / Substitute
move3: Seed Flare
move4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Earth Power
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin makes a great abuser of the SubSeed strategy due thanks to its great bulk and STAB Seed Flare to dealing significant damage to any Pokemon switching in. Leech Seed defines the set, and with Protect or Substitute, Shaymin is able to last for a very long time whilst slowly sapping away the opposing Pokemon's HP. Shaymin can also provide an added buff against the ever-so-common rain and sandstorm teams that plague the metagame, as its Grass typing gives it super effective coverage against Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types as well as key resistances to Water- and Ground-type attacks.</p>
<p>Substitute and Leech Seed create the SubSeed combination that almost every Grass-type can run, allowing Shaymin to endlessly drain away HP from opposing Pokemon. Seed Flare is Shaymin's STAB move of choice, which hits hard even with a small investment due to its great 120 Base Power. Shaymin's last moveslot provides coverage to complement Seed Flare. Hidden Power Fire is to hit Steel-types, most importantly Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Garchomp, while also giving Shaymin a way to hit Grass-types that are immune to Leech Seed. Finally, Earth Power is a somewhat viable option, as it too has super effective coverage on Steel-types, most importantly Heatran, who is almost the perfect counter to Shaymin without it.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Shaymin can make use of Giga Drain over Seed Flare for some extra recovery, but the drop in power is very significant due to the low investment in Shaymin's average Special Attack stat. Shaymin is also able to use a bulkier EV spread, but due to its many common weaknesses, this is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, which has many extra resistances to use to its advantage. Finally, Shaymin could be turned into a more offensive Leech Seed user, but this role would probably be better occupied by Whimsicott, whose ability, Prankster, gives priority to its support moves, such as Taunt and Stun Spore.</p>
<p>When using Shaymin, it should almost definitely be used in a Fire / Water / Grass core as it provides the resistances that are key for the other two. If it is not included in one of these set ups defensive cores, it is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, who has access to extra support options such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. Some Pokemon that work well with this Shaymin are generally more defensively inclined, so Pokemon such as Jellicent, Tentacruel, and Gyarados work well as the Water-type partner, whilst Heatran is generally an excellent partner for the Fire-type slot. These Pokemon can also help to counter Pokemon that can set up on Shaymin. For example, Shaymin without Hidden Power Ice is setup bait for Latios, who is taken care of by specially defensive Heatran. Defensive Gyarados can come in on a Garchomp that has set up on Shaymin, Intimidate it, and then Roar it away so that it takes entry hazard damage. All in all, Shaymin's teammates should be able to wall and help out against the beastly offensive threats that can come in against it, lest Shaymin becomes a burden for the team.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>In general, Shaymin lacks many other effective options outside of those listed. A Choice set is viable; however, being locked into Seed Flare is not usually a good option as Pokemon such as Thundurus, Tornadus, and Dragonite can easily come in and start firing off strong STAB attacks. A Swords Dance set could also be used, but Shaymin lacks a broad physical movepool, and as such is not usually the best option for the hedgehog. Finally, Shaymin can run a support set, as it does pack the incredibly rare Aromatherapy, but it is often seen as outclassed by other supporters such as Blissey, Jirachi, and Vaporeon, as they can offer more support for teams on the whole.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>If Shaymin is without Earth Power, Heatran will completely destroy Shaymin lacking Earth Power, as it 4x resists Seed Flare and is not troubled by any other attacks besides Leech Seed. Also, if Heatran carries an Air Balloon, it can even beat Shaymin that do pack Earth Power, as Shaymin will have to take one turn popping the Balloon whilst it gets roasted with a super effective STAB Fire Blast. Other Fire-types will also have an easy time coming in on Seed Flare in order to fire off powerful STAB attacks, such as Darmanitan, Infernape, and Ninetales. Dragon-types resist Seed Flare as well, so Pokemon such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Salamence can all come in and begin to set up against Shaymin if it isn't carrying Hidden Power Ice. Finally, any Pokemon with Taunt and a resistance to Grass-type moves can come in and wreck Leech Seed sets, as Shaymin is without a way to damage any of these Pokemon switching in.</p>
GP 4 / 4
I know this is done but I still have a few nitpicks (working on top of CP's check).
Oh, and I was the one who asked for a 3rd GP check on IRC (I started checking this yesterday, had to stop due to what fate said and came back today to see it was done but many of the mistakes I'd found were still here).
Oh, and I was the one who asked for a 3rd GP check on IRC (I started checking this yesterday, had to stop due to what fate said and came back today to see it was done but many of the mistakes I'd found were still here).
Sorry if this comes across as annoying, because I noticed a few more errors with this analysis.
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Comments
[Overview]
<p>Shaymin is one of the few Pokemon that can effectively take on the role of a bulky Grass-type. However, with competition from Celebi and Ferrothorn, Shaymin often finds itself in a difficult position when looking for a team slot teamslot. Ferrothorn is blessed with an excellent secondary Steel typing, along with support moves such as Spikes and Stealth Rock, while Celebi boasts reliable recovery in Recover, boosting moves in Nasty Plot and Calm Mind, and a great Fighting-type resistance. Fortunately, Shaymin can gain back some ground on its competitors by having no added weaknesses from a secondary typing, and access to STAB Seed Flare, a move that it greatly benefits from. Shaymin can run a variety of sets, including offensive sets with a Life Orb and Rest, which combined in conjunction with Natural Cure offers great recovery. Shaymin can also run a more bulky set with Leech Seed, which allows it to slowly drain the HP of foes that could have otherwise outlasted it.</p>
<p>On the whole, Shaymin is a great Pokemon in today's metagame, as it handily deals with a heap-load of rain and sandstorm teams, bringing key resistances to Water-, Ground-, and Electric-type attacks to the table. This makes Shaymin more than viable for a teamslot, and when used correctly, it can be a great asset to a team that struggles against such threats.</p>
[SET] (check the formating guide: there's a space between "move" and the number)
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Seed Flare
move 2: Earth Power
move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Rest / Leech Seed
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With STAB Seed Flare and great bulk, Shaymin makes a fantastic offensive tank. Being able to switch into the various bulky Water-types that plague the metagame, as well as counter some prominent threats such as Rotom-W and Tyranitar, make Shaymin a great choice for a teamslot. Shaymin also has an often overlooked base 100 Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed and threaten a large portion of the metagame, including Heatran, Gyarados, and some Jirachi.</p>
<p>Seed Flare provides great STAB, and the 40% chance to cause a Special Defense drop can sometimes allow Shaymin to beat a few of its usual counters. Earth Power is to hurt the Steel-types that resist Seed Flare, while also giving Shaymin the ability to lure in and KO non-Air Balloon Heatran. Beware of Choice Scarf variants though, as they will outspeed and KO Shaymin before it can hit back. Hidden Power is the best move in the last third (the last slot is for Rest / Leech Seed, right?) slot, rounding out the coverage. Hidden Power Fire allows Shaymin to deal with the pesky Ferrothorn, a Pokemon that will completely wall this set without it, while Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to lay the hurt on Dragon-types, as well as Gliscor and Landorus. Finally, Shaymin needs to run a recovery move, and Rest is usually the best option, as it will fully heal Shaymin and the induced sleep will be negated when Shaymin switches out. Leech Seed is a viable alternative, as not only does it heal Shaymin, but it also drains the opponent's HP.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin can use Synthesis in the last slot to gain some "reliable" recovery, but due to the prevalence of sandstorm and rain in OU, Shaymin is better off with either Rest or Leech Seed unless you are running a sun team. Growth can also be used for a Special Attack boost, but Shaymin lacks the necessary Speed to sweep through teams, as it is easily outsped and KOed by common revenge killers such as Terrakion, Garchomp, and Hydreigon. Even under the sun, Growth Shaymin is outclassed by Venusaur, as with Chlorophyll, Venusaur can outspeed many potential revenge killers. Shaymin can utilize Leftovers over Life Orb for a little more staying power, but Shaymin then loses the great power that a Life Orb-boosted Seed Flare can supply. Finally, a Modest nature and more HP EVs can make Shaymin a bulkier and more powerful sweeper, but it then loses to base 100 Speed Pokemon with base 100 Speed, a milestone that Shaymin usually needs to hit something which Shaymin cannot afford to do.</p>
<p>When looking for viable teammates to support Shaymin, one should put it in an offensive Fire / Water / Grass core. This allows Shaymin to have its weaknesses covered, whilst being able to take down the bulky Water-types that can cause trouble for the other two. Heatran is a great partner for the Fire-type slot, as it can take a few hits due to its great natural bulk and hit back extremely hard thanks to its base 130 Special Attack stat. A Water-type that will fit well with Shaymin needs to be able to take down the Fire-types which trouble Shaymin (and Dragon-types if Shaymin lacks Hidden Power Ice) as they can set up at their leisure. Jellicent and offensive Suicune are good examples; Jellicent can wall almost any Fire-type and has Ice Beam to deal with Dragon-types, while Suicune does the same and can set up on Heatran without breaking a sweat. Finally, a Steel-type is a good Pokemon to pair with Shaymin, as although they share a Fire-type weakness, Steel-types can switch into the Dragon-types that like to switch into Shaymin. A great example is Skarmory, who has no problem dealing with Garchomp and Salamence once they are locked into Outrage, and it can also help out against some Latios with a specially defensive spread.</p>
<p>On the offensive side, Pokemon that can sweep after bulky Water-types are removed, such as Salamence and Empoleon, also make great teammates. Finally, Shaymin appreciates entry hazard support, as it often forces switches. Skarmory and Ferrothorn are perfect examples of Pokemon that can provide such support.</p>
[SET]
name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Protect / Substitute
move 3: Seed Flare
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Earth Power
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
ability: Natural Cure
evs: 252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Shaymin makes a great abuser of the SubSeed strategy due thanks to its great bulk and STAB Seed Flare to dealing significant damage to any Pokemon switching in. Leech Seed defines the set, and with Protect or Substitute, Shaymin is able to last for a very long time whilst slowly sapping away the opposing Pokemon's HP. Shaymin can also provide an added buff against the ever-so-common rain and sandstorm teams that plague the metagame, as its Grass typing gives it super effective coverage against Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types as well as key resistances to Water- and Ground-type attacks.</p>
<p>Substitute and Leech Seed create the SubSeed combination that almost every Grass-type can run, allowing Shaymin to endlessly drain away HP from opposing Pokemon. Seed Flare is Shaymin's STAB move of choice, which hits hard even with a small investment due to its great 120 Base Power. Shaymin's last moveslot provides coverage to complement Seed Flare. Hidden Power Fire is to hit Steel-types, most importantly Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. Hidden Power Ice provides great coverage on Dragon-types such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Garchomp, while also giving Shaymin a way to hit Grass-types that are immune to Leech Seed. Finally, Earth Power is a somewhat viable option, as it too has super effective coverage on Steel-types, most importantly Heatran, who is almost the perfect counter to Shaymin without it.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Shaymin can make use of Giga Drain over Seed Flare for some extra recovery, but the drop in power is very significant due to the low investment in Shaymin's average Special Attack stat. Shaymin is also able to use a bulkier EV spread, but due to its many common weaknesses, this is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, which has many extra resistances to use to its advantage. Finally, Shaymin could be turned into a more offensive Leech Seed user, but this role would probably be better occupied by Whimsicott, whose ability, Prankster, gives priority to its support moves, such as Taunt and Stun Spore.</p>
<p>When using Shaymin, it should almost definitely be used in a Fire / Water / Grass core as it provides the resistances that are key for the other two. If it is not included in one of these set ups defensive cores, it is usually outclassed by Ferrothorn, who has access to extra support options such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. Some Pokemon that work well with this Shaymin are generally more defensively inclined, so Pokemon such as Jellicent, Tentacruel, and Gyarados work well as the Water-type partner, whilst Heatran is generally an excellent partner for the Fire-type slot. These Pokemon can also help to counter Pokemon that can set up on Shaymin. For example, Shaymin without Hidden Power Ice is setup bait for Latios, who is taken care of by specially defensive Heatran. Defensive Gyarados can come in on a Garchomp that has set up on Shaymin, Intimidate it, and then Roar it away so that it takes entry hazard damage. All in all, Shaymin's teammates should be able to wall and help out against the beastly offensive threats that can come in against it, lest Shaymin becomes a burden for the team.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>In general, Shaymin lacks many other effective options outside of those listed. A Choice set is viable; however, being locked into Seed Flare is not usually a good option as Pokemon such as Thundurus, Tornadus, and Dragonite can easily come in and start firing off strong STAB attacks. A Swords Dance set could also be used, but Shaymin lacks a broad physical movepool, and as such is not usually the best option for the hedgehog. Finally, Shaymin can run a support set, as it does pack the incredibly rare Aromatherapy, but it is often seen as outclassed by other supporters such as Blissey, Jirachi, and Vaporeon, as they can offer more support for teams on the whole.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>If Shaymin is without Earth Power, Heatran will completely destroy Shaymin lacking Earth Power, as it 4x resists Seed Flare and is not troubled by any other attacks besides Leech Seed. Also, if Heatran carries an Air Balloon, it can even beat Shaymin that do pack Earth Power, as Shaymin will have to take one turn popping the Air Balloon whilst it gets roasted with a super effective STAB Fire Blast. Other Fire-types will also have an easy time coming in on Seed Flare in order to fire off powerful STAB attacks, such as Darmanitan, Infernape, and Ninetales. Dragon-types resist Seed Flare as well, so Pokemon such as Dragonite, Latios, Latias, and Salamence can all come in and begin to set up against Shaymin if it isn't carrying Hidden Power Ice. Finally, any Pokemon with Taunt and a resistance to Grass-type moves can come in and wreck Leech Seed sets, as Shaymin is without a way to damage any of these Pokemon switching in.</p>
GP 4 / 4
please remove any garchomp mentions