Torkoal, Choice Band Roaring Moon, Choice Specs Walking Wake, Great Tusk in the forma you think fit more (mostly Physically Defensive), and maybe Chlorophyll Liliganth-Hisui. The Last slot is at preference
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OverUsed section is getting a bit cluttered, especially having to look through a bunch of threads for projects, when can we expect old/defunct threads to be unpinned? (Stuff like Kingambit suspect thread, Ursa suspect thread, Old metagame discussion, Old VR, potentially quickbans etc)
Shouldn't Ursaluna-Bloodmoon be removed from the DLC1 Viability List since it's now banned?
Why does Gliscor rarely ever run speed investment? Is speed investment viable on it or is max defense too important for it?
Gliscor generally doesn't need it, it is viable if you wanna go like full on offensive, but not really, I personally like to run 20 speed evs, to outspeed 230 tusks
Where can i post my team so that someone can help me improve it? Im new to the game
On the Rate My team section: https://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/sv-ou-teams.748/ this part is dedicated to SV OU, if you wanna go to other tiers or gens, look up their respective sections
before posting the team, look up the rules section before posting, or else your thread will be closed: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/rmt-rules-and-forum-guidelines.3647102/#post-8039581
And finally, it is recommended you play more with the team, so you can know possible weakness and issues beforehand
If you aren’t running Tera Blast, then either Fighting or Grass is fine.
Alternatively, Breloom sometimes run Tera Steel, to change every weakness except fire into a resist, including it's 4x flying weakness, and weakness to Fairy, Psychic, Poison and Ice.
What are the best Clefable sets these days?
Right now, it would be something like this
Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Moonlight
- Knock Off
- Stealth Rock / Calm Mind / Thunder Wave
- Moonblast
Moonlight provided semi reliable recovery alongside leftovers
Knock Off helps with removing items of enemies, and since you're immune to passive damage thanks to magic guard, you'll get plenty of opportunity to throw it
Moonblast is stab mandatory
Rocks can be used for role compression, allowing other mons to run other stuff, calm mind helps clef in staving off hits from special attackers, thunder wave can also be used to troll speed boosting mons
Tera water to survive Steel and Poison moves, and thanks to magic guard, you're also immune to garganacl's salt cure, which makes water more usefull
Clefable has a large, customizable and fun move pool, so don't be afraid to experiment, if you want something, there's a good chance she has it
I noticed Milotic was rather high on the OU viability list. Can someone explain what it offers in this meta?
1. One of the few mons that have Scald this generation
2. Use Haze to keep sweepers in check
3. Using Mirror Coat can be a nice tech where opponents might not see it coming
4. Marvel Scale will always help Milotic's defenses if it ends up getting statused.
5. Higher Special Attack vs something like Toxapex / Not being weak to Dark moves like Slowking is
Can someone explain to me how to categorize a team style? I'm seriously doubting if others are actually miscategorizing teams, or if I'm actually a complete moron.
I've had someone call this team Bulky Offense, when it's built to be more Hyper Offense (the only Pokemon that are bulky is the Dengo and Tusk is naturally fat), and someone else calls it Balance. Yet, this team is what I consider to ACTUALLY be Balance.
I seriously have no idea and it's really frustrating me. Am I just a total idiot for not getting any of this? Should I just go back to the dunce cap corner?
I've had someone call this team Bulky Offense, when it's built to be more Hyper Offense (the only Pokemon that are bulky is the Dengo and Tusk is naturally fat), and someone else calls it Balance. Yet, this team is what I consider to ACTUALLY be Balance.
I seriously have no idea and it's really frustrating me. Am I just a total idiot for not getting any of this? Should I just go back to the dunce cap corner?
There is space for debate and not everyone will agree with the definitions, in my personal opinion, I like to judge a team by this
6-5 pure offensive mons: HO
4 offensive mons and 2 walls: BO
3 offensive mons and 3 walls: balance
2-1 offensive mons and 4-5 walls: fat balance
6 walls: stall
I called this BO because its an offensive team, but has some defensive pivoting to rely back on
This IMO is balance, you have 3 defensive mons (empo, glis and threads) and 3 offensive mons
We can all disagree, so don't stress it too much
So it's just a subjective thing, rather than something the community agrees on? I seriously am just questioning everything I've ever learned in the 19 years of playing this game.
A mix of both, there is a consensus in some things, lets look at the sample teams for a second
https://pokepast.es/89cb7b0d786f965b this one is HO, it has a hazard setter and 5 set up sweepers
https://pokepast.es/a3399f21acc19b5a same concept here
https://pokepast.es/c6f068bef8b3acf3 this one is BO because it has offensive mons, but with enough defensive investment to tank hits and retalaite back
https://pokepast.es/8584dd8c9f72d1ab this is also BO, we have 2 semi defensive mons (heatran and tusk) aand 4 offensive mons
https://pokepast.es/297addca543a26d9 this one is fat balance, it has 5 defensive mons but not passive enough to be full stall, and it has 1 offensive mon, dragapult, skeledirge can also be a wincon
and while this is not from the samples, https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/dlc-stall-peaked-1-2075-elo.3727969/ this is clearly stall
Now, like I said, the consensus is not enforced
https://pokepast.es/925681e8b19c8773 while this is called alomomola balance, I do think it could be considered a BO due to having 2 walls and 4 offensive mons that can have some sort of defensive utility
The more you play and analyze teams, the more you'll get into team structure
. Both from a teambuilding perspective and on a play-by-play basis.
Ayush_1
formerly AyushKr_PKMN
Hi!! What do you think about stuffs like Trick Room?? Are those considered totally different archetypes or can be distributed based on the above listing!!
An example could be something like This Trick Room Team from Team Bazaar!!
Can this be considered something like Bulky Offense, Balance or Hyper Offense??. There are many teams that utilise 3 defensive Trick Room setters. Can we consider them Balance??
Red Raven
I COULD BE BANNED!
Trick room typically leans more towards hyper offense than anything because the setters want to kill themselves asap so they can bring in their hitters. Since there's such a limited amount of turns to make use of trick room, it fits the style of hyper offense where you really don't want to have the battle last more than like 15 turns because at that point, you'll probably lose. The defensive trick room setters are not there to protect their teammates. They're there to set trick room up and die asap
Belly Drum does 50% damage rounded down, and Sitrus Berry activates when your health is 50% or less, so you need even HP for Sitrus to activate after a Belly Drum from full health. I'm not sure what analysis you're looking at, but this analysis suggests 252 HP EVs for a total of 404 HP.
What are the most viable Infernape sets for OU?
