Smogon Doubles NU - Now with Viability Predictions

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#FREEDARKRAI

ill make this better tonight or tomorrow, because this obviously isn't done yet
don't close this please stratos approved


Clauses:
Species Clause: Limit one of each Pokémon
OHKO Clause: OHKO moves are banned
Moody Clause: Moody is banned
Evasion Abilities Clause: Evasion abilities are banned
Evasion Moves Clause: Evasion moves are banned
Endless Battle Clause: Forcing endless battles is banned
HP Percentage Mod: HP is shown in percentages​

Current banlist:
Abomasnow, Absol, Accelgor, Aegislash, Aerodactyl, Ambipom, Amoonguss, Ampharos, Arcanine, Arceus, Aromatisse, Audino, Aurorus, Azumarill, Bisharp, Blastoise, Breloom, Bronzong, Camerupt, Chandelure, Charizard, Cofagrigus, Conkeldurr, Cresselia, Crobat, Darkrai, Dialga, Diancie, Dragalge, Dragonite, Dusclops, Eelektross, Entei, Escavalier, Espeon, Excadrill, Ferrothorn, Garchomp, Gardevoir, Gastrodon, Genesect, Gengar, Giratina, Giratina-Origin, Goodra, Greninja, Groudon, Gyarados, Hariyama, Heatran, Heliolisk, Heracross, Hitmontop, Ho-Oh, Hoopa, Hoopa-Unbound, Houndoom, Hydreigon, Infernape, Jellicent, Kangaskhan, Keldeo, Klefki, Krookodile, Kyogre, Kyurem, Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, Landorus, Landorus-Therian, Latios, Lucario, Ludicolo, Lugia, Machamp, Mamoswine, Mawile, Meowstic-Male, Metagross, Mew, Mewtwo, Mienshao, Milotic, Nidoking, Ninetales, Octillery, Palkia, Pidgeot, Politoed, Porygon2, Purugly, Rayquaza, Reshiram, Rhyperior, Rotom-Heat, Rotom-Wash, Sableye, Salamence, Sceptile, Scizor, Scrafty, Serperior, Shaymin, Shaymin-Sky, Slowking, Snorlax, Suicune, Swampert, Sylveon, Talonflame, Tauros, Terrakion, Thundurus, Thundurus-Therian, Togekiss, Tornadus, Tyranitar, Umbreon, Vaporeon, Venusaur, Victini, Volcarona, Weavile, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zapdos, Zekrom

All megas that are allowed:

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Pokémon that shouldn't be NU but are NU anyways:
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Slaking, Regigigas, Espeon, Jolteon, Yanmega, Noivern, Reuniclus, Gigalith, Zygarde, Flygon, Serperior, Stoutland, Kabutops, Omastar, Chansey, Blissey, Shuckle, Musharna, Cloyster, Vaporeon, Tangrowth, Tangela, Parasect, Mantine, Cradily, Magnezone, Magneton, Slurpuff, Mr. Mime, Wigglytuff, Deoxys-Defense, Deoxys, Electivire, Electabuzz, Luxray, Purugly, Alomomola, Moltres, Hippowdon, Seaking, Raichu, Furret, Jumpluff, Butterfree, Carnivine, Ariados, Venomoth, Riolu, Wobbufett, Cofagrigus, rip this meta


VIABILITY RANKINGS PREDICTIONS (by Fangame10 and me)
note that these are simply predictions and that these are quickly made by me and fangame, so yea if you want to contribute to the viability rankings just make a post instead of leaving a sarcastic post like "nice viability ranking!!"​
Tier 1
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Altaria-Mega
Items: Altarianite
Moves: Dragon Dance, Return, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Roost, Fire Blast, Hyper Voice
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Blaziken
Items: Life Orb
Moves: Overheat, Superpower, Low Kick, Stone Edge, Hidden Power Ice, Knock Off, Swords Dance, Flare Blitz, ThunderPunch, High Jump Kick
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Blaziken-Mega​
Items: Blazikenite
Moves: Overheat, Superpower, Low Kick, Stone Edge, Hidden Power Ice, Knock Off, Swords Dance, Flare Blitz, ThunderPunch, High Jump Kick
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Deoxys
Items: Focus Sash, Life Orb
Moves: Psycho Boost, Shadow Ball, ExtremeSpeed, Superpower, Drain Punch, Ice Beam
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Pinsir-Mega
Items: Pinsirite
Moves: Swords Dance, Return, Frustration, Double-Edge, Close Combat, Earthquake, Quick Attack, Feint
Serperior
Tier 1.5

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Banette-Mega
Items: Banettite
Moves: Destiny Bond, Knock Off, Sucker Punch, Shadow Claw, Taunt, Will-o-Wisp, Thunder Wave, Shadow Sneak
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Clefable
Items: Sitrus Berry, Rocky Helmet
Moves: Follow Me, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Moonblast, Helping Hand, Thunder Wave
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Kingdra
Items: Life Orb, Choice Specs
Moves: Muddy Water, Draco Meteor, Ice Beam, Hydro Pump, Substitute, Rain Dance, Scald
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Staraptor
Items: Choice Band, Choice Scarf
Moves: Brave Bird, Double-Edge, Final Gambit, Close Combat, Quick Attack, U-Turn
Tier 2
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Cradily
Items: Leftovers
Moves: Stealth Rock, Rock Slide, Recover, Giga Drain
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Gothitelle
Item: Sitrus Berry, Choice Scarf, Choice Specs
Moves: Psychic, Trick Room, Helping Hand, Heal Pulse, Hidden Power Fire, Trick, Psychic, Psyshock, Thunderbolt, Energy Ball
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Gourgeist-Super
Items: Leftovers
Moves: Will-O-Wisp, Leech Seed, Foul Play, Trick Room, Seed Bomb, Shadow Sneak
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Kabutops
Items: Life Orb, Lum Berry
Moves: Stone Edge, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, Knock Off, Swords Dance, Superpower
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Medicham-Mega
Items: Medichamite
Moves: High Jump Kick, Zen Headbutt, Fake Out, Ice Punch
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Meloetta
Items: Choice Specs, Life Orb, Assault Vest, Choice Scarf
Moves: Hyper Voice, Psychic, Focus Blast, U-Turn, Dazzling Gleam, Relic Song, Psyshock, Calm Mind, Trick, Perish Song, Knock Off, Thunder Wave, Return, Close Combat
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sigh lord helix
Items: Focus Sash, Choice Specs
Moves: Scald, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Surf, Hidden Power Grass
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Parasect
Items: Sitrus Berry, Focus Sash
Moves: Spore, Leech Seed, X-Scissor, Knock Off, Seed Bomb, Wide Guard
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Rhydon
Items: Eviolite
Moves: Earthquake, Megahorn, Roar, Stone Edge, Drill Run, Rock Slide, Ice Punch
Tier 2.5
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Clefairy
Items: Eviolite
Moves: Follow Me, Icy Wind, Helping Hand, Moonblast, Thunder Wave, Knock Off, Healing Wish
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Electivire
Items: Life Orb
Moves: Wild Charge, Earthquake, Ice Punch, Hidden Power Grass, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower
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Gallade-Mega
Items: Galladite
Moves: Swords Dance, Drain Punch, Close Combat, Ice Punch, Knock Off, Shadow Sneak, Zen Headbutt, Substitute, Wide Guard, Quick Guard, Icy Wind, Trick Room
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Hippowdon
Items: Leftovers, Rocky Helmet, Sitrus Berry, Smooth Rock
Moves: Stealth Rock, Stone Edge, Whirlwind, Yawn, Earthquake, Rock Tomb, Rock Slide, Slack Off
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Reuniclus
Items: Life Orb, Sitrus Berry, Mental Herb, Light Clay
Moves: Trick Room, Psychic, Psyshock, Shadow Ball, Hidden Power Fire, Energy Ball, Helping Hand, Reflect, Light Screen, Focus Blast, Recover
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Steelix-Mega
Items: Steelixite
Moves: Earthquake, Roar, Heavy Slam, Stealth Rock
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Tangela
Items: Eviolite
Moves: Rage Powder, Leaf Storm, Giga Drain, Ancient Power, Sleep Powder, Hidden Power Fire, Leech Seed
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Tangrowth
Items: Sitrus Berry, Choice Specs, Life Orb, Assault Vest
Moves: Rage Powder, Leaf Storm, Giga Drain, Ancient Power, Sleep Powder, Hidden Power Fire, Leech Seed, Power Whip, Focus Blast, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Knock Off, Hidden Power Ice
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Vivillon
Items: Focus Sash, Sharp Beak, Life Orb, Sky Plate
Moves: Sleep Powder, Hurricane, Tailwind, Bug Buzz, U-Turn, Rage Powder, Quiver Dance, Hidden Power Ground, Energy Ball, Endeavor
Tier 3
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Blissey
Items: Leftovers
Moves: Thunder Wave, Soft-Boiled, Seismic Toss, Stealth Rock, Heal Bell, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Counter, Calm Mind, Healing Wish, Flamethrower
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Cloyster
Items: Focus Sash, Life Orb, King's Rock
Moves: Icicle Spear, Rock Blast, Explosion, Ice Shard, Hydro Pump, Shell Smash
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Glalie-Mega
Items: Glalite
Moves: Double-Edge, Return, Frustration, Freeze-Dry, Earthquake, Ice Shard, Explosion, Super Fang, Body Slam, Hidden Power Fire, Facade, Taunt, Crunch
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Jolteon
Items: Air Balloon, Choice Specs, Life Orb, Focus Sash
Moves: Shadow Ball, Discharge, Volt Switch, Thunderbolt, Hidden Power Ice, Signal Beam, Thunder, Thunder Wave, Hyper Voice
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Magnezone
Items: Air Balloon, Choice Scarf, Choice Specs, Weakness Policy
Moves: Flash Cannon, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch, Hidden Power Fire, Discharge, Signal Beam, Thunder, Thunder Wave, Explosion
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Musharna
Items: Leftovers, Mental Herb, Sitrus Berry, Rocky Helmet, Safety Goggles, Light Clay
Moves: Trick Room, Psychic, Helping Hand, Moonlight, Psych Up, Calm Mind, Stored Power, Dazzling Gleam, Shadow Ball, Yellow Magic, Light Screen, Reflect
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Noivern
Items: Life Orb, Choice Specs, Focus Sash
Moves: Draco Meteor, Boomburst, Hurricane, Dragon Pulse, Hurricane, Flamethrower, Air Slash, Heat Wave, Tailwind, U-Turn, Dark Pulse, Super Fang, Focus Blast, Taunt
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Regirock
Items: Leftovers, Assault Vest, Weakness Policy, Sitrus Berry
Moves: Drain Punch, Rock Slide, Earthquake, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Power-Up Punch, Stone Edge, Rest, Explosion
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Sharpedo-Mega
Items: Sharpedonite
Moves: Crunch, Waterfall, Ice Fang, Aqua Jet, Earthquake, Poison Jab, Poison Fang, Zen Headbutt
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Yanmega
Items: Focus Sash, Life Orb
Moves: Bug Buzz, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Hypnosis, DETECT, Giga Drain
Tier Please Don't
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Beedrill-Mega
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Mr. Mime
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Regigigas
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Shuckle
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Slaking
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Wigglytuff
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Wobbuffet
Tier unranked
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Deoxys-Attack
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Alakazam-Mega
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Alakazam
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Aggron-Mega
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Manectric-Mega
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Slowbro-Mega
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Latias-Mega
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Gallade-Mega
Mienshao
Florges
Hoopa
Abomasnow
Ampharos
Roserade
Cobalion
Blastoise
Camerupt
Kingler
Aerodactyl
Medicham
Honchkrow
Thundurus-Therian

 
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Is anybody willing to help out with a viability ranking? I could make speed tiers based on that too =)

Feel free to add sets/pokemon you think might be helpful, I will update OP tomorrow
 
I think in order to improve our prediction viability ranking and encourage this meta we should have some people post replays of Doubles NU battles here imo

#SAVEDARKRAI
 
trying to whisk away the already nonexistent uu playerbase smh
anyway here are updates for u:

Doubles NU banlist (praise antar): Absol, Accelgor, Aerodactyl, Ambipom, Ampharos, Arcanine, Aromatisse, Audino, Aurorus, Blastoise, Bronzong, Camerupt, Chandelure, Cofagrigus, Crobat, Darkrai, Dragalge, Dusclops, Eelektross, Entei, Escavalier, Espeon, Gastrodon, Genesect, Goodra, Hariyama, Heliolisk, Heracross, Houndoom, Infernape, Jellicent, Klefki, Krookodile, Kyurem, Lucario, Machamp, Mamoswine, Mawile, Meowstic, Mienshao, Nidoking, Octillery, Pidgeot, Porygon2, Purugly, Rhyperior, Rotom-Heat, Salamence, Sceptile, Shaymin, Slowking, Snorlax, Swampert, Tauros, Tornadus, Umbreon, Vaporeon, Victini

therefore,
All megas that are allowed:
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steelix-mega.png
sharpedo-mega.png
altaria-mega.png
glalie-mega.png
gallade-mega.png
lopunny-mega.png
manectric-mega.png


Pokémon that shouldn't be NU but are NU anyways:
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(PRAISE spinda)
im probably missing something so just check before u actually put this in
 
Ok Mega Altaria and Deoxys should literally get banned. Then we can try to have a more balanced meta unless the ladder screws us again...
 
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