Finals Smogon Premier League IX - Finals [Won by the Wi-Fi Wolfpack]

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Reminders:

On Sportsmanship
Note the sportsmanship infraction may be used liberally this SPL, and any unsportsmanlike conduct on the forums, in discord, or in opposing SPL team servers (I won't infract for you being a dick in your own SPL team server unless the situation is so extreme I feel I absolutely have to make an exception (consider basically any masterclass interaction ever)), will be grounds for an infraction. We encourage you to play semi-aggressively, but don't be a Masterclass.

~ Aldaron

On Scheduling Matches
I'm sure plenty of you have come across activity drama while scheduling matches. I'm here to reduce the arbitrary element associated with some of these decisions. It is entirely your decision to adhere to these STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS, but note that if you choose not to, I'll most likely ignore any pleading from your end.

YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR VM WALL IF YOU WISH TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNAMENT. THIS IS HOW ALL OFFICIAL SCHEDULING WILL BE HANDLED.

Once that week's thread is posted, you have up to 48 hours to contact your opponent ON HIS VM WALL and mention your timezone and exactly what dates, what time ranges you are available, and where you will battle. Note that the default accepted sim and server is the official server on Showdown/Smogon Tournament Server. You must provide at least 3 different time ranges at least 48 hours from the timestamp of your message, with at least 2 that are 24-hours apart from each other. The minimum and maximum length for 1 time range is 30 minutes, and the minimum difference between the 3 required time ranges is 3 hours. If you give 3 time ranges that stick with this policy, you can give any additional time ranges at any time you please.

NOTE THAT THIS SCENARIO INVOLVES RESPONSE DYNAMICS; THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WILL CONTACT FIRST AND SOMEONE WHO RESPOND...THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT FOR BOTH OF YOU TO ASSUME TO YOU CAN BE FIRST CONTACTS...WHOEVER CONTACTS FIRST IS THE FIRST, AND THE OTHER DEFAULTS TO THE RESPONDER. THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT SOME OF YOU ARE DUMB.

Once your opponent has contacted you, you now have up until 72 hours after the week's thread has been posted (NOT after your opponent's message) to respond with times that are good for you. What this means is that if both of you spend the maximum time contacting and responding, you should have back and forth collaboration at a maximum of 72 hours after the round has been posted, with both parties given an additional 24 hours to prepare for the battle should it be scheduled as soon as required. If none of the opponent's proposed time ranges are good for you, you must respond with alternative time ranges.

The first opponent now has X hours to prepare for the battle (if the second opponent agreed to some time) or 24 hours to contact a TD if, for whatever reason, this second set of time ranges does not suit the first opponent. Note this should be an absolute last measure.

Once a time is agreed upon, please make a message on your opponent's VM wall between 10 minutes and 1 second before the agreed upon time and say you are ready to battle and then get to agreed upon location (regardless of whether or not your opponent sends you a response VM). Please protect yourself by making this message, as it makes decisions much easier. You will be required to wait for your opponent for the duration of the time range.

If neither of you contact each other before 48 hours after the thread has been posted, you're both opening yourself up to a potential no contest or substitution. If I look at the situation, I might just determine I'm going to no contest, or whatever based on however I'm feeling at that moment. Don't leave yourself and your team vulnerable to this.

Just because at anytime one of the responders does not respond within the given range does not give you automatic activity win credentials. If they don't contact at all on your VM wall up until 48 hours before the end of the round (note, I'm not going to take discord or sim messages as evidence due to how easily they can be doctored...so if you want to protect yourself, stick to the VM messages), then you obviously have activity win justification. You WILL contact your opponent in a timely manner. However, if they do contact you at all after the suggested response time and before 48 hours before the end of the round, you are required to respond before 24 hours before the end of the round with 2 1-hour time ranges at least 1 hour apart before the end of the round. The opponent, since he did not stick to the proposed response schedule, WILL BE REQUIRED TO PLAY AT ONE OF YOUR NEWLY SUGGESTED TIMES, so you have the advantage here. This obviously puts a bit of an emphasis on the last 48 hours of each round (as is standard operating procedure for most of our official team tournaments anyway), so I will try my best to keep the last 48 hours of the round as close to the majority of the weekend for as much of the world as I can.

If you follow all of these guidelines, you will a.) most likely get your match done with minimal issue or b.) protect yourself and your team from an undue no contest or activity decision. Yes, I hate activity decisions in official tournaments. Yes, I will do my best to prevent activity decisions in the playoffs (the qualifying round is fair game however and I will have no problem issuing an activity call here), but don't push your luck.

Here is an example of how following this would work:

Week 1 thread is posted June 7, 2013 at 12:00 AM. Its deadline is June 14, 2013 at 11:59PM. User A and User B are matched up. User A contacts User B on his VM wall on June 7, at 9:00 PM (47 hours after the thread was posted, so ok), and gives 4 time ranges: June 10, from 7:00-7:30 PM (22 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is only ok so long as at minimum 3 of the other proposed time ranges adhere to the requirements), June 11, from 9:00-9:30 PM (48 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is ok), June 12, from 6:00-6:30 PM (69 hours after timestamp of his message, so ok, but only 21 hours after the earliest time range that is 48 hours after the timestamp), and June 12, from 9:00-9:30 PM (72 hours after the timestamp, so ok, and 24 hours after a legal time range and 3 hours after another legal time range). The June 11 and both June 12 time ranges satisfy the requirements, so User A can propose his first June 10 time range as well. User B responds on June 10, at 8:00 PM (23 hours after User A contacted him, so ok), and picks June 11, at 9:00 PM to battle, which is ok because it is 24 hours after his own response.

You'll note I made most of my response ranges multiples of 24 hours, but also included 24 hours. This means I expect you to be able to check Smogon at least once a day. If that is not feasible, you put yourself at risk.

~ Aldaron

On Disconnecting and timing out drama
If a disconnection occurs, please notify a tournament director immediately. An available TD will then export the game data. TDs have a maximum window of three hours after a game concludes to export game data before the game expires, and require consent from both players to do so. Please note that in the case of a true DC, you must give your consent if the TDs attempt a recreation or the game will be considered an activity loss. If no TDs are online, please tag them in the official tours discord using the @Tournament Director tag.

Regarding time outs, they are a bit more complex, specifically because some timeouts are due to DCs. The best we can do for this scenario is say that there is some number between 1 minute and 2 minutes (which we will not publicize) that we will set as a limit for timing out, and if you timeout with more than that limit time remaining, we'll assume it is a DC, whereas the opposite is a true timeout. A true timeout defaults to a loss, while the DC timeout is recreated.

~ Aldaron

On "Self-KO Clause" and Ties:
Self-KO Clause is an antiquated concept that is not used in Smogon tournaments. The one exception to the rule is if the tournament is live (weekly Smogon Tour, Suspect Tours, etc.). For all standard tournaments here this rule does not exist.

If both Pokemon faint simultaneously in DPP, ADV, GSC, or RBY, the game is ruled as a tie. Tied games do not count as played games in overall standings and will be expected to be replayed within the round's initial deadline. Similarly to this, tied games do not count towards the total number of games played in "best of X" series. In other words, if a tournament includes "Bo3" RBY, what is really being played is "first to two wins" RBY.

This should be a smooth ride if everyone follows the instructions above. (schedule via VM and don't start drama for no reason)

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[#1] Wi-fi Wolfpack (6) vs [#3] Team Raiders (6)

SM OU: ABR vs TDK
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs Gingy
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs R!cardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$

Tiebreak:
SM OU: ABR vs TDK
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs BKC
DPP OU: SoulWind vs roscoe

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Deadline is Sunday, April 1st at 11:59 PM EDT.

If I made a mistake with any matchups or names, please contact Quite Quiet or myself. Best of luck to both teams!

15/15 matches completed
 
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UNBIASED PREDICTIONS ONCE AGAIN
my predictions didnt go thru last week cuz i was on a cruise and we went out of range but w/e.
im 18-8 past 2 weeks including tiebreak lol.

[#1] Wi-fi Wolfpack (6) vs [#3] Team Raiders (6)

SM OU: ABR vs TDK | if you had asked me a few weeks ago, i would have slightly favored ABR but TDK has really turned it on lately with some impressive wins against really solid players like CBB, Black Oblivion, blunder, and Christo in UU in the tiebreak. ABR's obviously really good but gonna give TDK the slight 50.5/49.5 edge here.
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra | this is another really close OU game but I think Trosko is a slightly more solid player so giving him a small edge.
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak | our UU game has been FIRE FLAMES this season and is one of the premier reasons we are in finals. Have to favor Pak pretty heavily here.
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami- | my awful managers decided to put me in ru again UNBELIEVABLE. Well, definitely have to favor soulgazer here, who, while he hasn't been as dominant as he normally is in SPL, has been pretty solid, especially compared to my lackluster RU performances so far.
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku | rodri suffered his first loss in 3 games last week at the hands of lax and his merciless kings rock + para strategy. I expect Zuku to rebound in what should be a close one; FLCLs still pretty solid at getting matchup and zukus demonstrated some solid playing ability throughout the season. giving him a slight edge.
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori | kaori rebounded nicely with a win last week and i think hes played relatively solid overall. marilli won in their last matchup, but that was more due to the matchup advantage than outplaying. its doubles, so anything could happen really but gonna give him a v small edge in this matchup.
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo | kanto has been one of the players who has impressed me the most this tournament. Ricardo has made some questionable plays in his losses, but did perform the best in his ORAS game vs. Poek. Regardless, Kanto has proven to be ridiculously solid this tournament so gonna give him a solid edge in this game.
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC | soulwinds obviously really good but the goat will be favored over anyone. He had been crushing in BW before his loss to Dice, and rebounded with a win in the tiebreak. Have to give him a slight edge in the finals as I think he'll return to BW glory.
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe | roscoe's ridiculously consistent and is an amazing thinker. he has all the qualities necessary to be the king of the thinking mans gen.
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee | asta rebounded nicely with a win vs. undisputed in the tiebreak. I think his rebound will continue vs. Phil, who he should possess a solid ADV skill + knowledge edge over.
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio | Even though I think he's been overperforming a bit, Fear has been on an absolute tear. Have to favor him in what should still be a solid game.
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$ | Both these players have similar records, and i dont really think either is that amazing relative to the rest of the pool, but gonna give the edge to TIN simply because he won the last time they played.

will predict the tiebreak if it happens i suppose
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Both teams have already proven they deserve their place in finals at that point, and I'm sure that no matter the winner those are all going to be great matches.

SM OU: ABR vs TDK
BW OU: Soulwind vs BKC

^ I'm especially looking forward those games because all of those four players are among the very bests in their tiers and from this spectator perspective of mine there is nothing more promising :jynx:
 
[#1] Wi-fi Wolfpack (7) vs [#3] Team Raiders (4)

SM OU: ABR vs TDK
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC
DPP OU: Void vs rosco
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$

GO SW!
 

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[#1] Wi-fi Wolfpack (6) vs [#3] Team Raiders (3)

SM OU: ABR v TDK Better Player
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra Kind of a coinflip, both are pretty good
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami- sgs better
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo Better Player
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC Both are really good but i think SW has the edge
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee Better Player
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$
 
[#1] Wi-fi Wolfpack (9) vs [#3] Team Raiders (3)

SM OU: ABR vs TDK
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$

In the words of Hai Lam: "Better player always wins"
 
[#1] Wi-fi Wolfpack (6) vs [#3] Team Raiders (6)

SM OU: ABR vs TDK
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$
 

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SM OU: ABR vs TDK
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$
 
SM OU: ABR vs TDK
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$

cannot wait for the bw game. good luck to wolfpack
 

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SM OU: ABR vs TDK - ABR is the better player imo, close game tho and definitely the highlight of the finals alongside SW v. BKC
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC - two of the greatest players to have ever played the tier, this is looking to be fire
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$
 
SM OU: ABR vs TDK
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs -Tsunami-
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$
 

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Wifi Wolfpack (5) vs Team Raiders (7)
SM OU: ABR vs TDK
SM OU: Trosko vs Gondra
SM UU: PokeTCG gamer1288 vs Pak
SM RU: soulgazer vs Gingy
SM NU: Rodriblutar vs Zukushiku
SM DOU: marilli vs Kaori
ORAS OU: Updated Kanto vs Ricardo
BW OU: SoulWind vs BKC
DPP OU: Void vs roscoe
ADV OU: Astamatitos vs Jirachee
GSC OU: Fear vs choolio
RBY OU: The Idiot Ninja vs MetalGro$$
 
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