SubWisp Rotom-F

[MZ]

QC: Anty, Tone114, Raiza
GP: FrenzyPlant, P Squared
[SET]
name: SubWisp
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Will-O-Wisp
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Blizzard
item: Leftovers
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Substitute can easily be set up versus many weaker attackers in the tier and makes Rotom-F much harder to revenge kill. Will-O-Wisp cripples switch-ins such as Grumpig and Assault Vest Bouffalant, as well as preventing weaker foes from breaking Rotom-F's Substitute. It is also Rotom-F's best way to damage Seaking. Thunderbolt and Blizzard give Rotom-F perfect neutral coverage while threatening Flying-, Grass-, Ground-, and Water-types, making it incredibly difficult to switch into.

Set Details
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Maximum Speed investment and a Timid nature allow Rotom-F to outspeed as many foes as possible and keep its Substitute up more reliably. Leftovers provides passive recovery to let Rotom-F set up as many Substitutes as possible over longer battles. Maximum Special Attack investment helps Rotom-F deal as much damage as possible, and a Modest nature is an option to boost Rotom-F's power further, although it loses out on outspeeding foes such as Jolly Monferno.

Usage Tips
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Rotom-F can set up Substitutes on Pokemon it forces out, such as Roselia and Stunfisk. Use Substitute on switches when you predict your opponent to sacrifice something or send in a Pokemon that lowers its stats with its attacks, such as Close Combat Machoke. Attacking is safer when facing Pokemon such as Ninjask and Chatot that can hit Rotom-F through its Substitute. Use Will-O-Wisp versus anything that Rotom-F cannot 2HKO to cripple them so that they can't force Rotom-F out the next time it gets a Substitute. However, be careful of giving free switches to Facade users such as Ursaring, Flash Fire Pokemon such as Ninetales, and Pokemon that have already been inflicted with status. Attempt to bring Rotom-F in multiple times over longer games, as it can wear down nearly all of its checks given enough time. Be wary of losing all of Blizzard's PP, which leaves Rotom-F open to being walled by Grass- and Ground-types.

Team Options
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Entry hazard removal helps preserve Rotom-F's health and gives it more opportunities to set up Substitute. Pokemon that can take on Audino, such as Machoke and Monferno, help handle Rotom's best counter. Ninjask is a good partner, as it checks Grumpig for Rotom-F while Rotom-F can use Stunfisk as Substitute fodder, although the two share a weakness to Stealth Rock. Checks to Fire-types, such as Floatzel and Grumpig, can help handle Rotom-F's main checks, and sweepers such as Regice and Pawniard can clean more effectively once Rotom-F has broken down walls.

 

[Anty]

Mention in moves that willo can let it sub on stuff like DE audino

Maybe mention modest in SD as the relevant things below (stout pig monferno and golduck/missy) mostly run modest (well pig/missy generally wont run timid + max speed), and the things above it mostly run timid. Though timid is best as main nature jolly stout/monf are starting to be used to outcreep each other (give it a month and they will be much more popular)

'Ninjask forms a VoltTurn core' i agree that jask is a decent teammate but doesnt really create a volturn core :B
Also in TO maybe mention stuff like Scarf chatot/SS goreb which can clean with the weakening of things like grumpig and probopass

Megazard 1/3 looks good

 

[MZ]

did

 

[TONE]

Not much to comment on here. Its SpD, not SpDef. Also when you mention Floatzel (or Water-types in general) as a Fire check, also mention that it can wear down Ground- and Grass-types with its STAB + coverage moves.

2/3.

 

[MZ]

Also when you mention Floatzel (or Water-types in general) as a Fire check, also mention that it can wear down Ground- and Grass-types with its STAB + coverage moves.

because rotom has issues with those? anyway, this is ready for 3

 

[Raiza]

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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id give a special mention to seaking when talking about willo
mention what tbolt hits
mention what blizzard hits
then explain how these two moves can complement themselves

Usage Tips
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mention when it's more worth going for substitute than attacking on forced switches

Team Options
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i'd mention something more reliable to check monferno, as both floatzel and vibrava can't switch into it and can check it just by rkilling, also scarf monf can screw up floatzel at times
all kinds of sweepers appreciate rotom-f annoying and taking down opposing walls and Pokemon, not only specially based ones(which is actually an error since before you said audino is the best counter to rotom-f, while here you say rotom-f can break through special walls, which is not really true then since audino is our best and most used special wall)

Megazard
QC 3/3

 

[frenzyplant]

1/2 :)

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[SET]
name: SubWisp
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Will-O-Wisp
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Blizzard
item: Leftovers
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Substitute can easily be set up (two words) versus many weaker attackers in the tier and makes Rotom-F much harder to revenge kill. Will-O-Wisp (decapitalize i) helps Rotom-F to cripple cripples switch-ins (hyphenate) such as Grumpig and Assault Vest Bouffalant, as well as preventing weaker foes from breaking Rotom-F's Substitute. It is also Rotom-F's best way to damage Seaking. Thunderbolt and Blizzard give Rotom-F perfect neutral coverage while threatening Flying-, Grass-, Ground-, (dash) and Water-types, making it incredibly difficult to switch into.

Set Details
========

Maximum Speed investment and a Timid nature allow Rotom-F to outspeed as many foes as possible to and keep its Substitute up more reliably. Leftovers provides passive recovery to let Rotom-F set up as many Substitutes as possible over longer battles. Maximum Special Attack investment helps Rotom-F deal as much damage as possible, and a Modest nature is an option to boost Rotom-F's power further, although it loses out on outspeeding foes such as Jolly Monferno.

Usage Tips
========

Rotom can set up Substitutes on Pokemon it forces out, (comma) such as Roselia and Stunfisk. Use Substitute on switches when you predicting your opponent to fodder sacrifice (is this change correct?) something or send in a Pokemon that drop their lowers its stats with their its attacks, (comma) such as Close Combat Machoke. Attacking is safer when facing Pokemon such as Ninjask or and Chatot which that can hit Rotom-F through its Substitute. (period) Use Will-O-Wisp versus anything that Rotom-F cannot 2HKO to cripple them so that they can't force Rotom-F out the next time it gets a Substitute. However, be careful of giving free switch ins switches to Facade users such as Ursaring, Flash Fire Pokemon such as Ninetales, and Pokemon that have already been afflicted by status. Attempt to bring Rotom-F in multiple times over longer games, as it can wear down nearly all of its checks given enough time. Be wary of losing all of Blizzard's PP, which leaves Rotom-F open to being walled by Grass- and Ground-types.

Team Options
========

Entry hazard removal helps preserve Rotom-F's health and gives it more opportunities to set up Substitute. Pokemon that can take on Audino, (comma) such as Machoke or and Monferno, (comma) help handle Rotom-F's best counter. Ninjask is a good partner, (comma) as it checks Grumpig for Rotom-F while Rotom-F can use Stunfisk as Substitute fodder, although the two share a weakness to Stealth Rock. Fire-types checks Checks to Fire-types, such as Floatzel and Grumpig, (comma) can help handle Rotom-F's main checks, and sweepers such as Regice or and Pawniard can clean more effectively once Rotom-F has broken down defensive walls.

 

[MZ]

did

 

[P Squared]

im doing this
GP 2/2

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[SET]
name: SubWisp
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Will-O-Wisp
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Blizzard
item: Leftovers
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Substitute can easily be set up versus many weaker attackers in the tier and makes Rotom-F much harder to revenge kill. Will-O-Wisp cripples switch-ins such as Grumpig and Assault Vest Bouffalant, as well as preventing weaker foes from breaking Rotom-F's Substitute. It is also Rotom-F's best way to damage Seaking. Thunderbolt and Blizzard give Rotom-F perfect neutral coverage while threatening Flying-, Grass-, Ground-, and Water-types, making it incredibly difficult to switch into.

Set Details
========

Maximum Speed investment and a Timid nature allow Rotom-F to outspeed as many foes as possible and keep its Substitute up more reliably. Leftovers provides passive recovery to let Rotom-F set up as many Substitutes as possible over longer battles. Maximum Special Attack investment helps Rotom-F deal as much damage as possible, and a Modest nature is an option to boost Rotom-F's power further, although it loses out on outspeeding foes such as Jolly Monferno.

Usage Tips
========

Rotom-F can set up Substitutes on Pokemon it forces out, such as Roselia and Stunfisk. Use Substitute on switches when you predict your opponent to sacrifice something or send in a Pokemon that lowers its stats with its attacks, such as Close Combat Machoke. Attacking is safer when facing Pokemon such as Ninjask and Chatot that can hit Rotom-F through its Substitute. Use Will-O-Wisp versus anything that Rotom-F cannot 2HKO to cripple them so that they can't force Rotom-F out the next time it gets a Substitute. However, be careful of giving free switches to Facade users such as Ursaring, Flash Fire Pokemon such as Ninetales, and Pokemon that have already been inflicted with afflicted by status. Attempt to bring Rotom-F in multiple times over longer games, as it can wear down nearly all of its checks given enough time. Be wary of losing all of Blizzard's PP, which leaves Rotom-F open to being walled by Grass- and Ground-types.

Team Options
========

Entry hazard removal helps preserve Rotom-F's health and gives it more opportunities to set up Substitute. Pokemon that can take on Audino, such as Machoke and Monferno, help handle Rotom's best counter. Ninjask is a good partner, as it checks Grumpig for Rotom-F while Rotom-F can use Stunfisk as Substitute fodder, although the two share a weakness to Stealth Rock. Checks to Fire-types, (AC) such as Floatzel and Grumpig, can help handle Rotom-F's main checks, and sweepers such as Regice and Pawniard can clean more effectively once Rotom-F has broken down walls.

 

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