Just thinking about Gen 9 Rillaboom with Grassy Slide is terrifying.
glide got nerfed to 60bp tho. It's gonna be a lot worse than it was last gen
I can definitely agree with that, but with Grass type STAB, priority, and (I think) Grassy Terrain, Grassy Slide being reduce to 60 BP really doesn't matter. Then, as unconventional as this sounds, imagine Rillaboom with Leftovers and Leech Seed. That's a problem.
Thats before the 50% terrain boost and STAB. What was 60 BP is 90 from Stab,
Terrains only give a 30% boost since gen 8
252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom Grassy Glide (70 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Iron Valiant in Grassy Terrain: 259-306 (89.6 - 105.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes
Would Gambit ever use it? It already has Sucker Punch and Kowtow Cleave, which are both better moves over all, while running a third dark type move spells trouble for it in the late game. Really, bar it getting Baddy Bad, I doubt itll gain any more reasons to suspect/ban it.
it will use knock over kowtow because kowtow is inferior to knock off
Leave that man alone!!!
Im struggling to find a scenario where i'd rather lose out on damage over two turns in exchange for the opponent losing their item. Either you wouldve been KO'd in the meantime, or they were already in KO range. If this was Bisharp i could see your point, due to its potential role as utility, striking when the iron is hot and depriving the opponent of tools to use later, but this isnt bisharp. This is Kingambit, whose sole role is to clean house. It comes in at the end, and turns the game around, simple as. You dont turn games from 4-0 to 0-1 with utility, but with raw fucking power, and Kowtow Cleave does more over knock off in the end.
I'm down for it. As long as GS is "fair".
Ooh wee. Scald is gonna be a problem if it comes back as a TM.
Definitely, I agree. The only physical attacker that can eat scald is bax cuz of course it's a water move that can burn so fire types aren't safe and bax is the only relevant mon that resists water and is immune to burn. Why does this move exist???
If scald comes back as a tm and pex has it I quit this gen for singles
Vgc about to go crazy
To remove the HDB or Leftovers of the Dondozo that has a good matchup against whatever team you happen to be running at the time so you can actually chip it down and force it to spam all of its Rest turns away.
I’d rather Kingambit just finally get banned if it gets Pursuit + Knock Off back than deal with Scald Pex again
