i think choice and 4 attack or 3 attack+agi LO sets are the best way to go while 101 speed is nice, it's no were near as nice as base 111 was so it's harder to go for a NP sweep when your revenged killed by so much more things than your base form was and or be a general prick without prankster T-wave to punish non elec immune scarf users.
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Thundurus-T
- Thread starter Afti
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Thundurus-T really got to pay for its monstrous base special attack stat. I think that it will need a lot of team support in order for it to succeed. It might not be able to make Ubers again (101 speed? Really, GF? Must you put another special monster in OU? Isn't Latios enough for you trolls?). I don't have confidence in it setting up, so a Scarf/Specs set with Volt Switch will have to suffice. If it is used on a Volt-turning team, Rapid Spin support is necessary. Decent, overall, but very frail.
Has anyone used sub+3 attacks. I've been getting some nice results with it. A base 145 sp.atk stat is good enough alone to damage opposing mons. Just switch in to something that can't hurt thunder and get a sub on the switch in.
An uninvested base 90 attack makes even Blissey laugh at you.
wild charge vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Calm Blissey: 39.21 - 46.35%
wild charge vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Calm Blissey: 39.21 - 46.35%
Nobody should disregard NP Thundurus-T because its a very real threat now. Yes, the speed drop means it can't sweep through some of the fastest offensive pokemons in the tier (fighting trio, lati twins etc) but it's still an incredible wall breaker. +2 Focus Blast just hits so hard, and kills most of the Pokemon i've seen people use as "checks" to deal with Thundurus (Tyranitar, Ferrothorn, etc). It's not like base 101 is slow by any means either (though you're less likely to sweep offensive teams now).
The best part is that unlike the original Thundurus, Thundurus-T is immune to electric moves, which means that defensive jirachi's that rely on thunders to stop you are fucked and T-wave Blissey / Ferrothorn are limited against Thundurus.
Give it a chance, you won't be disappointed.
The best part is that unlike the original Thundurus, Thundurus-T is immune to electric moves, which means that defensive jirachi's that rely on thunders to stop you are fucked and T-wave Blissey / Ferrothorn are limited against Thundurus.
Give it a chance, you won't be disappointed.
Sure, but if you had spikes or rocks set up that would be beneficial. Suck that Thundurus-T doesn't get any other physical electric moves. I guess you wouldn't have to use a STAB move; then I could see Zapdos be more beneficial. I'm going to run the calculator on some other Pokemon other than golden scenario Blissey. I like shofly12 justification better.
this is going to be child's play when volt absorb raikou is released in this rain dominant meta.
Lavos
Banned deucer.
Can't wait to see that, for sure. If the metagame hasn't evolved into something more balanced by the time DW Raikou hits shelves, Rain is in for some pain. The standard SubCM set seen in UU on occasion will now be a tool of destruction in the hands of a madman.
Okay, all rhetorical strategies aside, Raikou's a boss. Thundurus-T, go cry about your base speed more please.
When i was seeing the therian formes stats for the first time, the first one i looked at was Landorus-T. it had amazing attack but lost to the original in speed. Than i looked at Thundurus-T. It equals Landorus in speed, and has as much special attack as Landorrus-T has physical. So... this guy is awsome. IMO it can play the role of scarfed revenge killer + volt turning tactic (or bluff the scarf with expert belt) much like landorus does in the sand. Until now i've only tried the expert belt set and i love it, the same way i love it on landorous. though i reckognize that it can also be a very powerful and destructive wallbreaker with the choice specs. i also see some use in the sub set and agility set as well.
BTW u-turn over volt switch, to avoid the electric immunities, especially gastrodon. I've found that guy to be ultra annoying.
Finally i'd like to state that it looks like rain offense will be taking the main role in the metagame (but i'm kinda new to competitive battling so my opinion doesn't really have much value i guess), and Thundurus-T will take a major role in this teams
BTW u-turn over volt switch, to avoid the electric immunities, especially gastrodon. I've found that guy to be ultra annoying.
Finally i'd like to state that it looks like rain offense will be taking the main role in the metagame (but i'm kinda new to competitive battling so my opinion doesn't really have much value i guess), and Thundurus-T will take a major role in this teams
atm I don't have access to a simulator so I'm just theorymoning and have no B2W2 experience at all but I really wanna try sub + 3 attacks, sub + agility, double dance and modest LO agility. IMO most people will just go for choice but I'm thinking that the LO agility set is gonna be an amazing cleaner and lategame sweeper. Maybe you could pair this with something capable of tearing teams down (terrakion?) and just let thunderus mop up the remains. However I do agree it is much too weak defensively and priority murders it so maybe add something to kill priority users? Any ideas for teammates?
EDIT: What about a rain abuse set with hp water and thunder?
EDIT: What about a rain abuse set with hp water and thunder?
ElectivireRocks
Banned deucer.
Is Yache Berry worth considering on Nasty Plot sets? It could survive Mamo's Ice Shard and KO back with Grass Knot or Focus Blast.
Life Orb is alot more useful imo. Mamoswine should be handled by one of the 5 other pokemon on your team.
Thundurus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature
- Volt Switch
- Thunder
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Superpower
Been using that on my Rain Offense team and it works like a charm, Clean OHKO on Ttar, 2HKos Blissey/Chansey.The other moves are typical of the man.