LC Torchic

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Overview
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Torchic has always been an underwhelming Pokemon in Little Cup, and last generation its hidden ability went unreleased. However, this generation finally allowed Speed Boost Torchic to become a reality, making it the only Speed Boost Pokemon in LC to also have Baton Pass. This, coupled with its surprising bulk, allows it to reliably pass Attack and Speed boosts to powerful sweepers, supporting teammates such as Pawniard, Mienfoo, or Bunnelby. However, Torchic and its stat-passing tactics are easily countered by Pokemon that carry Taunt or phazing moves such as Roar and Whirlwind. Torchic also suffers from its Fire typing, which limits its switch-in opportunities.

Speed Passer
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name: Speed Passer
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Protect
move 3: Substitute / Fire Blast
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse
ability: Speed Boost
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
nature: Bold

Moves
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Baton Pass is the main move, as without it, Torchic would have no reason to be a part of a team. Protect is crucial in that it allows Torchic to get at least one Speed boost. It also allows for scouting and can protect Torchic from Fake Out. If a receiver such as Bunnelby can be passed a Substitute along with Speed boosts, there is not much that can stop a sweep. Substitute can also help stall for further Speed boosts, although two is usually more than enough. Fire Blast can be used over Substitute if Torchic is being used as a part of a Baton Pass chain, as it is an effective STAB move. However, Torchic functions best as a Pokemon that passes boosts to a single recipient rather than a part of a chain. Swords Dance is usually the best final move, using Torchic's surprising physical bulk in order to optimally attain +2 in Attack and Speed. Curse, however, is an option to boost Defense alongside Attack. Speed Boost will negate the Speed drop, though Torchic will acquire Speed boosts much more slowly than if it used Swords Dance.

Set Details
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The massive investment in defense with a Bold nature allows Torchic to tank some surprising moves, such as Pawniard's Knock Off and many neutral attacks. Maximum investment in Speed allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame at +1. Eviolite is the item of choice due to it increasing bulk; however, Berry Juice can be used as well, and it is the optimal choice with Curse. Berry Juice is also more useful for more offensive teams; Eviolite is preferred on teams that only have one or two receivers.

Usage Tips
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Torchic is best used when facing Pokemon that cannot OHKO it or interfere with its setup. Bulky Pokemon such as Trubbish or Spritzee can easily be set up on. If running Curse, Pokemon such as Timburr, Mienfoo, or even Pawniard can be set up on. You can use Torchic as a lead, but be mindful that the opponent will be anticipating this and will likely lead with something that can prevent Torchic from doing its job in response.

Team Options
========

Generally, the best partners for Torchic are other Pokemon that also have Baton Pass or can immediately benefit from the boosts it passes. Pokemon such as the aforementioned Mienfoo, Fletchling, Pawniard, or Bunnelby can really use the Speed and Attack boosts. Any decently bulky Pokemon can work well with Swords Dance boosts, and frailer Pokemon work excellently if passed Curse boosts.

Other Options
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Torchic can pass other boosts, such as Hone Claws and Focus Energy, although Swords Dance and Curse are usually better options to support its teammates. Flame Charge can be used to gain Speed boosts faster, while also hitting enemies for minor damage. Using Flame Charge also means that the Special Attack EVs must be moved to Attack and the nature should be changed to Impish. Torchic can also support the team with Will-O-Wisp, although this is best left to other Pokemon such as Misdreavus.

Checks & Counters
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**Taunt users**: Users that carry Taunt can generally beat Torchic and stop it from passing boosts. Priority Taunt users such as Cottonee are more problematic, as their Taunt will always have greater priority than Baton Pass, easily stopping Torchic from passing boosts to a teammate.

**Phazers**: Pokemon such as Whirlwind Munchlax, Whirlwind Hippopotas, or Roar Archen can phaze out the receiver, often messing up the Torchic user's momentum and potentially forcing a Pokemon to switch in to entry hazards.

**Hazers**: Pokemon that can learn moves such as Clear Smog, such as Foongus or Koffing, can essentially do the job of a phazer without a forced switch.

**Setup Sweepers**: Strong Pokemon that can set up, such as Tirtouga or Substitute + Nasty Plot Misdreavus, can easily set up on Torchic and hit the recipient of its boosts hard; in Tirtouga's case, it will often outspeed and totally overpower the recipient after two Shell Smash boosts.
 
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Can we slash Sub with Fire Blast? Fire Blast isn't always necessary and Sub is much better on many occasions, especially to stop status, and if you can pass your sub as well it's basically gg. Yes, it makes Torchic useless late game but Torchic isn't meant for late game. If you get taunted, most the time you want to just switch out anyway. and Taunt isn't even a problem if you can SD whilst they switch in.

In Usage Tips, I really want some examples of the Pokemon that Torchic can set up on. The best examples are Fire-types (ponyta+larvesta) and bulky stuff like Spritzee and Trubbish. If using Curse, you can set up on stuff like Mienfoo, Timburr, Pawniard, much easier.

in C&C mention set-up sweepers such as tirtouga or Misdreavus. They can set up alongside Torchic then hit the switch in for large damage.

1/3 after that
 
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Berry Juice should be slashed since it does make a lot of sense especially with Curse.

After that 2/3.
 
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Overview
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Torchic has always been an underwhelming Pokemon in LC, and last generation its hidden ability went unreleased. However, this generation finally allowed Speed Boost Torchic to become reality, and made it the only Speed Boost Pokemon in LC to also have Baton Pass. This coupled with its surprising bulk allowed it to become a notable part of the metagame. Torchic can easily pass Attack boosts and Speed boosts to powerful sweepers, supporting teammates like Pawniard, Mienfoo, or Bunnelby. What are Torchic's disadvantages. Those need to be highlighted too. Also, you kind of just stop here. Try adding an ending like "Advantages and disadvantages considered, Torchic is a potent threat in the metagame"

Speed Passer
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name: Speed Passer
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Protect
move 3: Substitute / Fire Blast
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse
ability: Speed Boost
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD / 236 Spd
nature: Bold

Moves
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Baton Pass is the crux main reason to use this set I was once berated for using "crux" in an analysis, I will pass on the trend of this set, as without it, Torchic would have no reason to be a part of a team. Protect is crucial in that it allows Torchic to get a minimum of one turn of Speed Boost. It also allows for scouting and can protect Torchic from Fake Out. If a reciever such as Bunnelby can be passed a Substitute, along with Speed boosts, there is not much that can stop the a sweep. Substitute can also help stall for further Speed boosts, although two is usually more than enough. Fire Blast can be used over Substitute if a Baton Pass chain is being used, as it is an effective STAB move. However, Torchic functions best as a single booster, rather than a part of a chain. Swords Dance is usually the best final move, using Torchic's surprising physical bulk in order to optimally get to +2 in Attack and Speed. Curse, however, is an option to boost Defense alongside Attack. Speed Boost will negate the Speed drop, however Torchic will acquire Speed boosts much more slowly than if it used Swords Dance.

Set Details
========

The massive investment in defense allows Torchic to tank some surprising moves, such as Pawniard's Knock Off, as well as a ton of neutral moves. Maximum investment in Speed allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame at +1. Eviolite is the item of choice due to it increasing vital bulk, however Berry Juice can be used, and is optimal with Curse. Berry Juice is more useful for teams that are extremely offensive, rather than the use of Eviolite on teams that only have one or two recievers receivers. A Bold nature helps to maximize physical bulk so as to allow an increased amount of set up opportunities.

Usage Tips
========

Torchic is best used on Pokemon that cannot OHKO it or Pokemon that cannot interfere with Torchic's set up setup. Bulky Pokemon such as Trubbish or Spritzee can easily be set up on. If running Curse, Pokemon such as Timburr, or Mienfoo, or even Pawniard can be set up on. It is best not to lead with it as the opponent will generally use something to answer to it. Torchic is best paired with Pokemon that can take a hit after the pass, have an immunity to Torchic's weaknesses, have Baton Pass, or have high power output.

Team Options
========

Generally the best partners for Torchic are Pokemon that have Baton Pass or can immediately benefit from the passed boosts. Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Fletchling, Pawniard, or Bunnelby can really use the Speed and Attack boosts. Any decently bulky Pokemon can work well with the Swords Dance set, and frailer Pokemon work excellently with the Curse set.

Other Options
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Torchic can pass other boosts, such as Hone Claws and Focus Energy. Swords Dance and Curse are all that it usually needs to support its teammates though. Flame Charge can be used so as to gain Speed boosts faster, while also hitting for minor damage. Using Flame Charge means that the Special Attack EVs must be changed to Attack, and the nature should be changed to Impish. Torchic can also support the team with Will-o-Wisp, although this is best left to other Pokemon, such as Misdreavus.

Checks & Counters
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**Taunt-users**: Users that carry Taunt can generally beat Torchic, and stop it from passing. Priority Taunt is more dangerous, such as Cottonee, as it goes before Baton Pass, stopping Torchic from passing.

**Phazers**: Pokemon such as Whirlwind Munchlax, Whirlwind Hippopotas, or Roar Archen can phaze out the reciever, often messing up the Torchic user's momentum, as well as forcing a pokemon to switch in to hazards.

**Hazers**: Pokemon that can learn moves such as Clear Smog, such as Foongus or Koffing, can essentially do the job of a phazer, without a forced switching.

**Setup Sweepers**: Strong Pokemon that can set up, such as Tirtouga or Sub+NP Misdreavus can easily set up on Torchic and hit the switch in hard, in Tirtouga's case often outspeeding and overpowering the switch in with 2 Shell Smashes.

A few small issues I caught, I dont think I missed much bar some confusion with Speed Boost
 
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Overview
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Torchic has always been an underwhelming Pokemon in LC, and last generation its hidden ability went unreleased. However, this generation finally allowed Speed Boost Torchic to become a reality, and made it the only Speed Boost Pokemon in LC to also have Baton Pass. This coupled with its surprising bulk allowed it to become a notable part of the metagame. Torchic can easily pass Attack boosts and Speed boosts to powerful sweepers, supporting teammates like Pawniard, Mienfoo, or Bunnelby. What are Torchic's disadvantages. Those need to be highlighted too. Also, you kind of just stop here. Try adding an ending like "Advantages and disadvantages considered, Torchic is a potent threat in the metagame"
Try a different ending; that's far too bland >:( As long as the disadvantages are mentioned, it doesn't need a cookie-cutter ending sentence
Speed Passer
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name: Speed Passer
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Protect
move 3: Substitute / Fire Blast
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse
ability: Speed Boost
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD / 236 Spd
nature: Bold

Moves
========

Baton Pass is the crux main move reason to use this set I was once berated for using "crux" in an analysis, I will pass on the trend yes smh TCR never use this again of this set, as without it, Torchic would have no reason to be a part of a team. Protect is crucial in that it allows Torchic to get a minimum of one turn of Speed Boost. It also allows for scouting and can protect Torchic from Fake Out. If a receiver such as Bunnelby can be passed a Substitute, along with Speed boosts, there is not much that can stop the a sweep. Substitute can also help stall for further Speed boosts, although two is usually more than enough. Fire Blast can be used over Substitute if a Baton Pass chain is being used, as it is an effective STAB move. However, Torchic functions best as a single booster, (RC) rather than a part of a chain. Swords Dance is usually the best final move, using Torchic's surprising physical bulk in order to optimally get to +2 in Attack and Speed. Curse, however, is an option to boost Defense alongside Attack. Speed Boost will negate the Speed drop, however Torchic will acquire Speed boosts much more slowly than if it used Swords Dance.

Set Details
========

The massive investment in defense allows Torchic to tank some surprising moves, such as Pawniard's Knock Off, as well as a ton of neutral moves. Maximum investment in Speed allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame at +1. Eviolite is the item of choice due to it increasing vital bulk, however Berry Juice can be used, and is optimal with Curse. Berry Juice is more useful for teams that are extremely offensive, rather than the use of Eviolite on teams that only have one or two recievers receivers. A Bold nature helps to maximize physical bulk so as to allow an increased amount of setup opportunities.

Usage Tips
========

Torchic is best used on Pokemon that cannot OHKO it or Pokemon that cannot interfere with Torchic's set up setup. Bulky Pokemon such as Trubbish or Spritzee can easily be set up on. If running Curse, Pokemon such as Timburr, or Mienfoo, or even Pawniard can be set up on. It is best not to lead with it as the opponent will generally use something to answer to it. Torchic is best paired with Pokemon that can take a hit after the pass, have an immunity to Torchic's weaknesses, have Baton Pass, or have high power output.

Team Options
========

Generally the best partners for Torchic are Pokemon that have Baton Pass or can immediately benefit from the passed boosts. Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Fletchling, Pawniard, or Bunnelby can really use the Speed and Attack boosts. Any decently bulky Pokemon can work well with the Swords Dance set, and frailer Pokemon work excellently with the Curse set.

Other Options
########

Torchic can pass other boosts, such as Hone Claws and Focus Energy. Swords Dance and Curse are all that it usually needs to support its teammates though. Flame Charge can be used so as to gain Speed boosts faster, while also hitting for minor damage. Using Flame Charge means that the Special Attack EVs must be changed to Attack, and the nature should be changed to Impish. Torchic can also support the team with Will-O-Wisp, although this is best left to other Pokemon, such as Misdreavus.

Checks & Counters
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**Taunt users**: Users that carry Taunt can generally beat Torchic, (RC) and stop it from passing. Priority Taunt users are is more dangerous, such as Cottonee, as it their Taunt goes before Baton Pass, stopping Torchic from passing.

**Phazers**: Pokemon such as Whirlwind Munchlax, Whirlwind Hippopotas, or Roar Archen can phaze out the receiver, often messing up the Torchic user's momentum, as well as forcing a Pokemon to switch in to entry hazards.

**Hazers**: Pokemon that can learn moves such as Clear Smog, such as Foongus or Koffing, can essentially do the job of a phazer, (RC) without a forced switching.

**Setup Sweepers**: Strong Pokemon that can set up, such as Tirtouga or Substitute + Nasty Plot Misdreavus can easily set up on Torchic and hit the switch-in hard, in Tirtouga's case often outspeeding and overpowering the switch-in with 2 Shell Smashes.
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Lol I'm retarded sorry I'm usually really active in UU and I did an AM check so it automatically watched thread and I was just looking at a UU thread so I was confused lol sorry
 
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Torchic has always been an underwhelming Pokemon in LC, and last generation its hidden ability went unreleased. However, this generation finally allowed Speed Boost Torchic to become a reality, and made it the only Speed Boost Pokemon in LC to also have Baton Pass. This,(AC) coupled with its surprising bulk,(AC) allowed it to become a notable part of the metagame. Torchic can easily pass Attack and Speed boosts to powerful sweepers, supporting teammates like Pawniard, Mienfoo, or Bunnelby. However,(AC) Torchic does suffer as being prone to Taunt users,(RC) and its stat-passing tactic are is easily countered if you can stop the Baton Pass through moves such as by Pokemon that carry Taunt,(RC) or by phazing out the receiver or phazing techniques such as Roar and Whirlwind. Torchic also suffers from having limited switch-ins due to its Fire-typing, which limits often limiting when it can and cannot switch in and how often.

Speed Passer
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name: Speed Passer
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Protect
move 3: Substitute / Fire Blast
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse
ability: Speed Boost
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD / 236 Spd
nature: Bold

Moves
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Baton Pass is the main move,(AC) as without it, Torchic would have no reason to be a part of a team. Protect is crucial in that it allows Torchic to get a minimum of one turn of Speed Boost. It also allows for scouting and can protect Torchic from Fake Out. If a receiver such as Bunnelby can be passed a Substitute,(RC) along with Speed boosts, there is not much that can stop a sweep. Substitute can also help stall for further Speed boosts, although two is usually more than enough. Fire Blast can be used over Substitute if a Baton Pass chain is being used, as it is an effective STAB move. However, Torchic functions best as a single booster Pokemon that passes boosts to a single recipient rather than a part of a chain. Swords Dance is usually the best final move, using Torchic's surprising physical bulk in order to optimally get to attain +2 in Attack and Speed. Curse, however, is an option to boost Defense alongside Attack. Speed Boost will negate the Speed drop, however,(AC) and Torchic will acquire Speed boosts much more slowly than if it used Swords Dance.

Set Details
========

The massive investment in defense with a Bold nature allows Torchic to tank some surprising moves, such as Pawniard's Knock Off, as well as a ton of neutral moves. Maximum investment in Speed allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame at +1. Eviolite is the item of choice due to it increasing vital bulk;(remove comma and add semicolon) however,(AC) Berry Juice can be used as well, and is the optimal choice with Curse. Berry Juice is also more useful for teams that are extremely offensive, rather than the use of Eviolite on teams that only have one or two receivers. A Bold nature helps to maximize physical bulk so as to allow an increased amount of setup opportunities.

Usage Tips
========

Torchic is best used on when facing Pokemon that cannot OHKO it or Pokemon that cannot interfere with Torchic's setup. Bulky Pokemon such as Trubbish or Spritzee can easily be set up on. If running Curse, Pokemon such as Timburr, or Mienfoo, or even Pawniard can be set up on. It is best not to lead with it as the opponent will generally use something to answer to it (this isn't necessarily true, but it is true that the opponent will be expecting it or at least considering the possibility of it) You can use Torchic as a lead, but be mindful that the opponent will be anticipating this and will likely lead with something that can prevent Torchic from doing its job in response. Torchic is best paired with Pokemon that can take a hit after the pass, have an immunity to Torchic's weaknesses, have Baton Pass, or have high power. (something like this would go in Team Options, not Usage Tips ^_^)

Team Options
========

Generally,(AC) the best partners for Torchic are other Pokemon that also have Baton Pass or can immediately benefit from the passed boosts it provides. Pokemon such as the aforementioned Mienfoo, Fletchling, Pawniard, or Bunnelby can really use the Speed and Attack boosts. Any decently bulky Pokemon can work well with the Swords Dance set, and frailer Pokemon work excellently with the Curse set.

Other Options
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Torchic can pass other boosts, such as Hone Claws and Focus Energy,(AC) though Swords Dance and Curse are all that it usually needs usually better options to support its teammates though. Flame Charge can be used so as to gain Speed boosts faster, while also hitting enemies for minor damage. Using Flame Charge also means that the Special Attack EVs must be changed moved to Attack, and the nature should be changed to Impish. Torchic can also support the team with Will-O-Wisp, although this is best left to other Pokemon,(RC) such as Misdreavus.

Checks & Counters
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**Taunt users**: Users that carry Taunt can generally beat Torchic and stop it from passing boosts. Priority Taunt users such as Cottonee are more dangerous problematic (I wouldn't say dangerous, as it's a Grass-type against a Fire-type) such as Cottonee, as since their Taunt goes before will always outspeed Baton Pass, easily stopping Torchic from passing boosts to a teammate.

**Phazers**: Pokemon such as Whirlwind Munchlax, Whirlwind Hippopotas, or Roar Archen can phaze out the receiver, often messing up the Torchic user's momentum, as well as potentially forcing a Pokemon to switch in to entry hazards.

**Hazers**: Pokemon that can learn moves such as Clear Smog, such as Foongus or Koffing, can essentially do the job of a phazer without a forced switching switch.

**Setup Sweepers**: Strong Pokemon that can set up, such as Tirtouga or Substitute + Nasty Plot Misdreavus,(AC) can easily set up on Torchic and hit the switch-in its Baton Pass recipient hard, in Tirtouga's case often outspeeding and totally overpowering the switch-in it with after 2 Shell Smashes Smash boosts.

(Note: Remember to always add a comma after "however" even if it is in the middle of a sentence, like so: Speed Boost will negate the Speed drop, however, and Torchic will acquire Speed boosts much more slowly than if it used Swords Dance.)
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