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Trying to round it out some.

Discussion in 'BW OU Teams' started by Boss jr., Aug 15, 2013.

  1. Boss jr.

    Boss jr.

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    Zoroark @ Life Orb
    Trait: Illusion
    EVs: 252 Atk / 40 SAtk / 216 Spd
    Naughty Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Sucker Punch
    - Flamethrower
    - Low Kick

    Really trickey revenge killer and fools people into making mistakes all the time. It looks like it might be first in the team preview so it's trickeyness starts even before the battle does. Swords dance is really hard to set up though unless Vaporeon passes him a sub.

    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 SDef
    Sassy Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Protect
    - Toxic
    - Stealth Rock
    - Gyro Ball

    Obvious lead and a bit predictable but definitely reliable. I used to run Earthquake in place of Protect but this set works much better! Although a lot of teams run spinners so he needs a little back up. Maybe spikes or toxic spikes somewhere else on the team.

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 244 HP / 136 Def / 128 Spd
    Bold Nature
    - Aqua Ring
    - Baton Pass
    - Scald
    - Substitute

    Pure, honest and simple support. She's not killing a whole heck of a lot but aqua rings and subs are nice to pass around. I can get lucky with scald every once in a while though.

    Mismagius @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Substitute
    - Calm Mind
    - Shadow Ball
    - Pain Split

    She's a wicked sweeper although she can have a hard time switching in and setting up. Although once she does is mayhem! Pain Split works really well for evening out the playing field on switch-in's that don't see it coming too. With some more play I've come to realize that while she is a great additions to the team, and while it is nice to have Pain Split for recovery since she doesn't have access to anything else, she also needs an answer to Steel and Normal Poke'mon who are immune to Shadow Ball... lest I waste all her set-up by being forced out.

    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Trait: Moxie
    EVs: 88 HP / 248 Atk / 4 Def / 168 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Substitute
    - Waterfall
    - Roar Dragon Tail

    What is there to say? Gyara slaughters if he can gain any momentum and once he does he's really hard to stop! Even meaner if I can pass him Aqua Rings. Traded Roar out for Dragon Tail for it's ability to hit Dragons for super effective and damages before switching out.

    Tangrowth @ Leftovers
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    Relaxed Nature
    - Power Whip
    - Swords Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Substitute

    I used to run Leech Seed in place of Swords Dance but this set works way better! If Tang can set up she becomes a vicious Tank capable of some pretty decent sweeps. Special attacks put a damper on her though but she usually gets a few kills in.


    Ok, now for the down sides... I have trouble with Fire types although I'm learning to deal with that. Victini tears me apart and Heatran sweeps usually. Frail fires die easily enough though *caugh*infernape*caugh*. I also have issues with steel types mainly Scizor, as most can deal with both Zoroark and Tangroath. Farathorn gets walled by Tangroath though and lets me set up so no complaints there. Oh, and dragons mess me up pretty good too, that is if I can't wall and toxic with Bronzong anyway. I do alright with pretty much everything else... mostly... no other notable pokes get me that bad anyway.

    So yeah, anyway... what can I do to improve this or got suggestions, constructive criticism... anything?
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2013
  2. Boss jr.

    Boss jr.

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    *BUMP*

    Edits in bold. I'm really trying to make this team work. I've played around with the idea of switching Vaporeon out for Tentecruel

    Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Liquid Ooze
    EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spd
    Bold Nature
    - Toxic Spikes
    - Haze / Rapid Spin
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam

    This set is to help set up more Entry Hazards and while it's nice to be able to remove them as well Haze also messes up anything trying to set up as well.
  3. Kempo

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    Hi I would like to recommend switching Vaporeons aqua ring for wish, it would heal a lot more then aqua ring and works great with baton pass!

    Also while I see you are fond of substitute I would recommend switching Gyarados's substitute out for thunderwave to make him a nice parashuffler, it would greatly aid your slower teammates like tangrowth into making a sweep. You should also give him a more defensive ev spread.

    As for mismagius the all mighty hidden power fighting would round out her coverage, how you fit it in I'm not sure :(

    ~Kempo
  4. Boss jr.

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  5. Kempo

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    Nice job with that battle!

    I see you really do well with your gyarados as a sweeper, perhaps replacing your mismagius with a Gengar with a set like this,

    Nature: Timid

    Item: life orb


    Moveset
    ~ Substitute
    ~ Shadow Ball
    ~ Focus Blast
    ~ Pain Split
    EV: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    The risidual damage from life orb can be patched up with pain split and also help gengar muscle through high HP walls like blissey, focus blast gets rid of your steel and normal problem.

    And if you decide to keep vaporeons aquaring then it would negate the life orb damage
    ~Kempo
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2013
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