Umbreon (Support)

[MetaNite]

Hi.

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Wish
move 2: Payback
move 3: Protect / Baton Pass
move 4: Taunt / Heal Bell
item: Leftovers
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 208 SpD / 48 Spe

• Provides the team with Wish support
• Counters Special Attackers, relevant calcs assuming usual battle conditions:

Choice Scarf Rotom-A's Thunderbolt: 21.3% - 25.1% - 4HKO
Life Orb Starmie's Hydro Pump: 33.5% - 39.6% - 3HKO
Choice Specs Latias' Draco Meteor: 48% - 56.6% - 3HKO
Life Orb Gengar's Focus Blast: 53.3% - 62.9% - 2HKO

Payback against 0 HP / 0 Def Rotom-A: 59.5% - 70.2% - 2HKO
Payback against 0 HP / 0 Def Starmie: 66.4% - 78.6% - 2HKO
Payback against 0 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 55.6% - 65.6% - 2HKO
Payback against 0 HP / 0 SpD Gengar: 87.4% - 103.4% - OHKO

• Taunt prevents Skarmory / Snorlax / Forretress / etc. from setting up
• Heal Bell cures teams' status, makes Umbreon a great absorber (due to synchronize)
• Protect provides reliable healing, scouts the foe
• Baton Pass to scout Scizor and get in a free counter, help pass Wish
• Speed EVs outspeed standard Choice Band Scizor and Skarm w/o Spe EVs
• Major Team Options: Skarmory (counters Scizor / Tar), Rotom-A (counters Lucario, Machamp, Scizor)

 

[Seven Deadly Sins]

Unfortunately, I honestly think that this set is just a mediocre Blissey. It's a special wall that gets rocked by Gengar Focus Blast (meaning that if Gengar subs Umbreon is now dead), it can be spiked on by Skarmory that runs any kind of Speed EVs (which is getting more common), and it just doesn't really function effectively. It can't take Blissey levels of punishment, it can't toss around Status such as Thunder Wave, and when push comes to shove it's setup fodder for a remarkable number of foes, even moreso than Blissey.

The only place where Umbreon will ever be able to function as a special wall is UU, where the special attackers don't have the muscle to power through Umbreon, and there aren't threats such as Salamence, Gyarados, Lucario, Tyranitar, etc. that just don't give a damn about Payback and will set up on Umbreon's weak ass all day long for free.

In conclusion, this set gets a no from me.

 

[Setsuna]

Unfortunately, I honestly think that this set is just a mediocre Blissey. It's a special wall that gets rocked by Gengar Focus Blast (meaning that if Gengar subs Umbreon is now dead), it can be spiked on by Skarmory that runs any kind of Speed EVs (which is getting more common), and it just doesn't really function effectively. It can't take Blissey levels of punishment, it can't toss around Status such as Thunder Wave, and when push comes to shove it's setup fodder for a remarkable number of foes, even moreso than Blissey.

The only place where Umbreon will ever be able to function as a special wall is UU, where the special attackers don't have the muscle to power through Umbreon, and there aren't threats such as Salamence, Gyarados, Lucario, Tyranitar, etc. that just don't give a damn about Payback and will set up on Umbreon's weak ass all day long for free.

In conclusion, this set gets a no from me.

We discussed this on IRC a moment ago, and I agree with everything SDS outlined here. So I disapprove this set as well.

 

[Farmer]

I agree with the others as I cant see this being to effective in ou.