Hey guys this is my first RMT so lets get to the intro
Introduction: I've always liked ubers as a tier because it's a really offensive metagame and the pokemon have huge attacking stats, also there is less stupid gimicky stuff(you dont see unaware quagsire much). I made this team based on one of my favorite pokemon sets-double dance groudon. I tried to make the other 5 pokes either benefit from sun, or help to counter the omnipotent rain and everyones least favorite whale, Kyogre. I peaked on the PO ladder at 59th, with a ranking of 1430, however, lately I've been losing more than I would like and wanted to see what you guys had to say. So with that, lets take a look at the team.
All changes will be put in BOLD
THE TEAM
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 hp/112 atk/148 speed
Moveset
Swords Dance
Rock Polish
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Groudon has always been my lead when I make an ubers team. Alot of people use him as bulk, or a supporter with twave, SR, dtail, etc. I however think that this is a blatant disrespect to his amazing ability to 6-0 a team. There have been many a time when someone leads with forretress and gets up full spikes/SR/tspikes, and lets me get to +4/+6, then when they explode and i dont die, they get swept. I chose rock slide over stone edge because of the accuracy, theres nothing worse than getting 1200 attack and missing causing your death, and with a few SDs the power difference doesnt really matter. The EVs may seem a little strange and thats because they are. 148 speed lets me outspeed deoxys s after a rock polish, 112 atk gives me 400 attack with adamant, i just thought this was a nice number, the rest are in hp to give him enough bulk to survive hits while he sets up.
Rayquaza@ life orb
Ability: Air Lock
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 atk/252 speed/4hp
Moveset
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Outrage
Earthquake
I've had trouble with this slot in general, I tried Ho-oh, Lugia, Reshiram, and I finally decided to go with Rayquaza, but this can change depending on what you guys say. The reason I chose him was to have another Espeed user. Scarf Kyogre with water spout dominates team that are unprepared for it so I went with adamant life orb to pack as much power with espeed as I could to take down the power of that water spout. I also tried focus sash for a while, but I settled on the extra power of life orb. I went with adamant over jolly because you dont really need speed if you have priority and even with jolly, most of the other dragons running around outspeed him anyway. Outrage is for when I know something is slower, as some kyogre are, and eq is for the steels. Ive considered running fire blast or flamethrower with some spatk evs due to the sun of groudon and irritating ferrothorn but i usually only get in a few espeeds before he dies anyway.
Arceus-Normal@leftovers
Ability: Multitype
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 156hp/252atk/96 speed
Moveset
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Shadow Claw
Earthquake
After losing tons of battles to him, I decided no team can really be complete without some form of arceus. Lots of people run steel type, but I think they are missing out on the sheer power of STAB priority. I chose leftovers and recover to keep him around the longest because he can take so many hits with his bulk and deal out so much damage so keeping him in the game is essential. Shadow claw hits otherwise walling Giratina. Ive considered lum berry because he hates getting burned as he often does by Giratina or Arceus Steel if shadow claw doesnt KO. Steel types wall me, Dialga and Arceus Steel are big problems, I could run a fire move, but I think recovery is more important.Ive switched to eq from recover to hit dialga which is a problem for the team. I also gave him different EVs, jolly with 96 outspeeds all base 100s like palkia, I still run max attack and now 156 in hp to give him lots of bulk
Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Ability:pressure
Nature:Hasty
EVs: 252 Spatk/252Speed/4atk
Moveset
Spacial Rend
Thunder
Fire Blast
Outrage
Palkia is my Kyogre switch in. He takes Wspouts like a champ and almost always OHKOs with Thunder. He is faster than many dragons in the tier with his base 100 so thats why I run timid. Spacial rend is for slower dragons, and outrage is only for when its a 1v1 on blissey, i actually ran focuspunch for a while to hit bliss and ferrothorn because they usually dont attack, but once the opponent catches on, its worthless so I went with outrage. Fire Blast is a change over surf because it hits like a truck in the sun. I also changed from specs to scarf, and while the power drop is VERY noticeable, its great to come in on a scarf zekrom outrage and just ohko it with spacial rend.
Mewtwo @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SPatk/252 Speed/4SDef
Moveset
Aurasphere
Psystrike
Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Mewtwo is one of the best special sweepers out there, Period. He's really fast and really powerful. You have to run timid otherwise Shaymin s can flinch you to death, trust me, I tried modest for a while and it sucks. Aura Sphere OHKOs stupid darkrai leads, Psystrike is for STAB and makes blissey poop herself, it also does work on ho-oh. Flamethrower in the sun hurts alot of things, namely steels which this team has some problems with. Ice beam hits shaymin s, dragons, groudon and lugia. These 4 moves are the toughest to pick out of all my pokes because mewtwo has soooo many options. He can run Tbolt, shadow ball for other mewtwo, taunt, explosion, calm mind, screens, grass knot, WOW, sub, and toxic. I like this moveset and the only real problem he has is opposing mewtwo, but flamethrower in the sun 2hkos most sets and I love psystrike over shadow ball just because of the fat nurse.
Saymin-S @ leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace(Ragequitter)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252Spatk/252speed/4hp
Moveset
Seed Flare
HP [Fire]
Substitute
Air Slash
Shaymin-S is really underappreciated in the ubers tier. He is really fast and forces tons of ragequits due to his trollish ability. Timid outruns modest mewtwo. I am running hp fire over solar beam now to take advantage of the sun and rape ferrothorn, im still considering leech seed, however Sub is for when I predict a switch so they have to outspeed me, AND hit me twice, other wise hitting me twice is almost impossible with damn air slash flinches. For a while I ran subseed, but kept getting ppstalled unintentionally and decided solar beam was the way to go.
THREATS
Kyogre takes away my sun and OHKOs many things with Spout and Surf, I can Espeed from Arceus or big Ray, but if it doesnt KO, Surf almost always does back. Palkia can switch in, but good players know to switch out from a specs thunder and most palkias are choiced so switching to Dialga or Ferrothorn is common, and Palkia can only take about 3 Water Spouts so constant switching isnt good.
Swift Swim teams in general run through my team like butter, Ive been swept by kingdra many times, and even floatzel has taken out my guys if arceus is gone.
Scarfed Dragons like palkia, Dialga, Reshiram, and Zekrom do tons of damage to my team as I dont have a steel Type, or dedicated physical wall, Ubers is so offensive though, I feel walls slow my team down and are easily broken by many mixed sets.
Arceus Steel can status lots of things and if in the rain is a huge problem, I only really have mewtwo for it, Groudon can also hit it with EQ, but hates getting burned and all of the A-Steels Ive seen have WOW
Toxic Spikes also is a thorn in my side, but nothing that has REALLY punished me, since the ubers game is so fast paced, this often doesnt matter.
Ferrothorn is just a bitch, in the rain its really hard to hit, mewtwo has asphere, and surprisingly shaymin s can drop its Sdef with seed flare and hit really hard with air slash to flinchHKO it
Chansey is a fat little whore who only takes 50% from mewtwo psystrike so shes hard to take down if arceus is gone, also if she runs twave over toxic, she can cripple arceus and rayquaza, but hopefully groudon can set up in her face and sweep.
Thanks a lot for reading this, its my first RMT and I'm all ears for any suggestions!
One last thing I forgot, and its kind of embarrassing, but I dont have any WOWers, so those damn lvl 1 arons kick my ass, I dont know if its worth editing for those, but just thought Id mention it
Introduction: I've always liked ubers as a tier because it's a really offensive metagame and the pokemon have huge attacking stats, also there is less stupid gimicky stuff(you dont see unaware quagsire much). I made this team based on one of my favorite pokemon sets-double dance groudon. I tried to make the other 5 pokes either benefit from sun, or help to counter the omnipotent rain and everyones least favorite whale, Kyogre. I peaked on the PO ladder at 59th, with a ranking of 1430, however, lately I've been losing more than I would like and wanted to see what you guys had to say. So with that, lets take a look at the team.
All changes will be put in BOLD
THE TEAM
Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 hp/112 atk/148 speed
Moveset
Swords Dance
Rock Polish
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Groudon has always been my lead when I make an ubers team. Alot of people use him as bulk, or a supporter with twave, SR, dtail, etc. I however think that this is a blatant disrespect to his amazing ability to 6-0 a team. There have been many a time when someone leads with forretress and gets up full spikes/SR/tspikes, and lets me get to +4/+6, then when they explode and i dont die, they get swept. I chose rock slide over stone edge because of the accuracy, theres nothing worse than getting 1200 attack and missing causing your death, and with a few SDs the power difference doesnt really matter. The EVs may seem a little strange and thats because they are. 148 speed lets me outspeed deoxys s after a rock polish, 112 atk gives me 400 attack with adamant, i just thought this was a nice number, the rest are in hp to give him enough bulk to survive hits while he sets up.
Rayquaza@ life orb
Ability: Air Lock
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 atk/252 speed/4hp
Moveset
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Outrage
Earthquake
I've had trouble with this slot in general, I tried Ho-oh, Lugia, Reshiram, and I finally decided to go with Rayquaza, but this can change depending on what you guys say. The reason I chose him was to have another Espeed user. Scarf Kyogre with water spout dominates team that are unprepared for it so I went with adamant life orb to pack as much power with espeed as I could to take down the power of that water spout. I also tried focus sash for a while, but I settled on the extra power of life orb. I went with adamant over jolly because you dont really need speed if you have priority and even with jolly, most of the other dragons running around outspeed him anyway. Outrage is for when I know something is slower, as some kyogre are, and eq is for the steels. Ive considered running fire blast or flamethrower with some spatk evs due to the sun of groudon and irritating ferrothorn but i usually only get in a few espeeds before he dies anyway.
Arceus-Normal@leftovers
Ability: Multitype
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 156hp/252atk/96 speed
Moveset
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Shadow Claw
Earthquake
After losing tons of battles to him, I decided no team can really be complete without some form of arceus. Lots of people run steel type, but I think they are missing out on the sheer power of STAB priority. I chose leftovers and recover to keep him around the longest because he can take so many hits with his bulk and deal out so much damage so keeping him in the game is essential. Shadow claw hits otherwise walling Giratina. Ive considered lum berry because he hates getting burned as he often does by Giratina or Arceus Steel if shadow claw doesnt KO. Steel types wall me, Dialga and Arceus Steel are big problems, I could run a fire move, but I think recovery is more important.Ive switched to eq from recover to hit dialga which is a problem for the team. I also gave him different EVs, jolly with 96 outspeeds all base 100s like palkia, I still run max attack and now 156 in hp to give him lots of bulk
Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Ability:pressure
Nature:Hasty
EVs: 252 Spatk/252Speed/4atk
Moveset
Spacial Rend
Thunder
Fire Blast
Outrage
Palkia is my Kyogre switch in. He takes Wspouts like a champ and almost always OHKOs with Thunder. He is faster than many dragons in the tier with his base 100 so thats why I run timid. Spacial rend is for slower dragons, and outrage is only for when its a 1v1 on blissey, i actually ran focuspunch for a while to hit bliss and ferrothorn because they usually dont attack, but once the opponent catches on, its worthless so I went with outrage. Fire Blast is a change over surf because it hits like a truck in the sun. I also changed from specs to scarf, and while the power drop is VERY noticeable, its great to come in on a scarf zekrom outrage and just ohko it with spacial rend.
Mewtwo @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SPatk/252 Speed/4SDef
Moveset
Aurasphere
Psystrike
Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Mewtwo is one of the best special sweepers out there, Period. He's really fast and really powerful. You have to run timid otherwise Shaymin s can flinch you to death, trust me, I tried modest for a while and it sucks. Aura Sphere OHKOs stupid darkrai leads, Psystrike is for STAB and makes blissey poop herself, it also does work on ho-oh. Flamethrower in the sun hurts alot of things, namely steels which this team has some problems with. Ice beam hits shaymin s, dragons, groudon and lugia. These 4 moves are the toughest to pick out of all my pokes because mewtwo has soooo many options. He can run Tbolt, shadow ball for other mewtwo, taunt, explosion, calm mind, screens, grass knot, WOW, sub, and toxic. I like this moveset and the only real problem he has is opposing mewtwo, but flamethrower in the sun 2hkos most sets and I love psystrike over shadow ball just because of the fat nurse.
Saymin-S @ leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace(Ragequitter)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252Spatk/252speed/4hp
Moveset
Seed Flare
HP [Fire]
Substitute
Air Slash
Shaymin-S is really underappreciated in the ubers tier. He is really fast and forces tons of ragequits due to his trollish ability. Timid outruns modest mewtwo. I am running hp fire over solar beam now to take advantage of the sun and rape ferrothorn, im still considering leech seed, however Sub is for when I predict a switch so they have to outspeed me, AND hit me twice, other wise hitting me twice is almost impossible with damn air slash flinches. For a while I ran subseed, but kept getting ppstalled unintentionally and decided solar beam was the way to go.
THREATS
Kyogre takes away my sun and OHKOs many things with Spout and Surf, I can Espeed from Arceus or big Ray, but if it doesnt KO, Surf almost always does back. Palkia can switch in, but good players know to switch out from a specs thunder and most palkias are choiced so switching to Dialga or Ferrothorn is common, and Palkia can only take about 3 Water Spouts so constant switching isnt good.
Swift Swim teams in general run through my team like butter, Ive been swept by kingdra many times, and even floatzel has taken out my guys if arceus is gone.
Scarfed Dragons like palkia, Dialga, Reshiram, and Zekrom do tons of damage to my team as I dont have a steel Type, or dedicated physical wall, Ubers is so offensive though, I feel walls slow my team down and are easily broken by many mixed sets.
Arceus Steel can status lots of things and if in the rain is a huge problem, I only really have mewtwo for it, Groudon can also hit it with EQ, but hates getting burned and all of the A-Steels Ive seen have WOW
Toxic Spikes also is a thorn in my side, but nothing that has REALLY punished me, since the ubers game is so fast paced, this often doesnt matter.
Ferrothorn is just a bitch, in the rain its really hard to hit, mewtwo has asphere, and surprisingly shaymin s can drop its Sdef with seed flare and hit really hard with air slash to flinchHKO it
Chansey is a fat little whore who only takes 50% from mewtwo psystrike so shes hard to take down if arceus is gone, also if she runs twave over toxic, she can cripple arceus and rayquaza, but hopefully groudon can set up in her face and sweep.
Thanks a lot for reading this, its my first RMT and I'm all ears for any suggestions!
One last thing I forgot, and its kind of embarrassing, but I dont have any WOWers, so those damn lvl 1 arons kick my ass, I dont know if its worth editing for those, but just thought Id mention it