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Winter in July (An OU Hail RMT)

Discussion in 'BW OU Teams' started by Touymato, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. Touymato

    Touymato

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    WINTER IN JULY (AN OU HAIL RMT)
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    Ah, yes, it's that time again, people. Summer's here, the nice baking sun shining in the sky, I mean, what could possibly go wrong to ruin this perfect day for the beach. Until this happens, a hailstorm comes out of nowhere and starts freezing the living-wait wrong introduction, my bad. Hey everyone. This is Touya, once again, with an RMT on the new forums of Smogon. It has been a while since I've done one of these, you know the usual stuff. Life, and stuff. So, err. Yeah.​
    Anyways, the birth of this team is when after like testing out original Kyurem on another hail team that I have, till then, I noticed, "as much as Kyurem does has good STAB with the move: Blizzard, but what happens if I like I dunno, use Kyurem-B, then add some support, such as healing wish, and hazards, and then, boom, I think this hail team would work out pretty nice and such." And to my surprise, it work. So, the purpose here of my hail team is to test out Black Kyurem on a hail team, with some support backing it up. So, enough chit-chat. Let's get right in this chilling RMT, shall we?​
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    Team At A Glance:
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    In Depth Look:
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    Abomasnow[​IMG][​IMG]
    Abomasnow (M) @ Choice Scarf​
    Trait: Snow Warning​
    EVs: 16 Atk / 252 SAtk / 240 Spd​
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)​
    - Blizzard​
    - Grass Knot​
    - Hidden Power [Fire]​
    - Earthquake​
    Abomasnow, the core of any hail team, and has to be a threat in the OU tier itself. Having a held item, which is a Choice Scarf, it can reach up to 354 Speed, allowing to surprise slower foes such as a Max Speed Tornadus. It's STAB move, Blizzard, has perfect accuracy during hail and can do massive amount of damage to any pokemon that cannot resist it. Grass Know is the preferred Grass-Type attack due to offering it great boost such as power, against heavier foes and doesn't have recoil damage, allowing him to switch in more times. Hidden Power (Fire) covers Steel Types, such as Ferrothorn and Scizor, that resist to Abomasnow's STAB moves. Earthquake is a move for the snowman to destroy other opposing steel types such as Heatran, and Magnezone, plus for Ninetales, as well, when facing it. However, it can backfire, due to some of the pokemon, can carry an held item, such as an Air Balloon.
    Froslass[​IMG][​IMG]
    Frosslass (F) @ Focus Sash​
    Trait: Cursed Body​
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd​
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)​
    - Spikes​
    - Taunt​
    - Shadow Ball​
    - Destiny Bond​
    Here we come across, Froslass, the most popular pokemon that does what's best. Being a suicide lead for spikes, a rapid spin blocker, and preventing other pokemon from setting up, using taunt. It has great synergy, when it comes to offensive teams, while Abomasnow removes opposing weather, such as Sandstorm for example. Like I said before, Taunt can block any other pokemon from setting up hazards onto the battlefield such as Stealth Rock, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, etc. or possibly setting up on boosting attacks. Shadow Ball can nail Espeon and Starmie for Super Effective damage. Destiny Bond can score a Free KO right after Froslass has done it's job of bringing instant momentum to the team, taking down threats such as Tyranitar and Scizor. So, basically, if you want to set up spikes really fast, Froslass is your best friend.​

    Heatran[​IMG][​IMG]
    Heatran (M) @ Air Balloon​
    Trait: Flash Fire​
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd​
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)​
    - Fire Blast​
    - Earth Power​
    - Hidden Power [Ice]​
    - Stealth Rock​
    Yes yes, we get the picture, Heatran, being the best fire-types in standard play and the most powerful attackers in OU, is...on a hail team? Well, anyways, with excellent set of resistances, being dragon of course, to take on Draco Meteors and Outrages, and great bulk, Heatran can halt powerful sweepers such as Venasaur, Volcarona, and Jirachi, with no trouble at all, and having the ability to check basically what Abomasnow hates, aside from fighting types, gives the two pretty solid synergy as well. Fire Blast is Heatran's best STAB move, being the sweet spot of Overheat's power and flamethrower's accuracy. Earth Power is a great covering move that can hit an opposing Heatran, while damaging Tyranitar and Terrakion. With Hidden Power (Ice) and an Air Balloon as an held item, it becomes an excellent check for Dragon Types as stated, easily OhKOing Dragonite after setting up Stealth Rock. And lastly, Stealth Rock is the best hazard of all of them, since it requires one turn of set up. Overall, Heatran is an amazing glue to my Hail Team.​
    Latias[​IMG][​IMG]
    Latias (F) @ Light Clay​
    Trait: Levitate​
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd​
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)​
    - Reflect​
    - Light Screen​
    - Healing Wish​
    - Draco Meteor​
    Latias is one of the pokemon that works well in any team, like hail for instance. Being the bulky dragon that it is, it sponges off opposing fighting types, making it a check for Abomasnow's and Heatran's weakness, plus giving more resistances, such as water and fire, giving it a huge advantage and great synergy as well. Due to her natural bulk and speed, she is a solid dual screen user. With Healing Wish, Latias can sacrifice herself to bring back a crippled sweeper to give it a second chance at sweeping. Later in the game, she can set up Reflect and Light Screen, and then sacrifice herself, letting the same sweeper on this team can wreak havoc on the opposing team. Draco Meteor is probably the best fit in the last shot so that she cannot be an utter setup fodder.​
    Tentacruel[​IMG][​IMG]
    Tentacruel (M) @ Black Sludge​
    Trait: Rain Dish​
    EVs: 252 HP / 236 Def / 20 Spd​
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)​
    - Rapid Spin​
    - Toxic Spikes​
    - Scald​
    - Protect​
    As much as Tentacruel can give support in a rain team, but it can support hail teams very well. Being another check for Volcarona and other fire-types as well, Tentacruel does a handy job of keeping everything in check. This set excels at spinning hazards away for both balanced and stall teams. However, unlike other users of Rapid Spin, Tentacruel can absorb opposing Toxic Spikes, facilitating it's work of being a rapid spinner. Toxic Spikes is use for to cripple down an opposing sweeper or a certain wall pokemon. Scald is the best STAB move of Tentacruel, outside of rain, it has a %30 chance of burning the target, discouraging Pokemon such as Gyarados and Dragonite from switching in, even though they resist the move. Finally, Protect also has the ability to scout Choice users and stops a SubDisabling Genger. So, in other words, Tentacruel is a very neat choice of being a supporter in this hail team.​

    Black Kyurem [​IMG][​IMG]
    Kyurem (Kyurem-B) @ Leftovers​
    Trait: Teravolt​
    EVs: 56 HP / 216 Atk / 236 Spd​
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)​
    - Substitute​
    - Fusion Bolt​
    - Dragon Claw​
    - Ice Beam​
    I saved it till last. This powerful threat of the OU metagame, having amazing offensive stats, Kyurem-B is just an monster when the hail is up. It can ruin many every pokemon and every type of team in OU, being one of the dragons that is not weak to ice, and having good resistances to Water, Electric, and Grass Types. As much as Kyurem-B is bulky, this set here is physically based. Substitute gives it the ability to scout and bring ruin to offensive presence, especially in the face of Starmie, Politoed, Jellicant, Rotom-W, and Celebi. Besides scouting for dangerous attacks, it also protects Black Kyurem from status and dire attacks. Fusion Bolt is a great STAB for Kyurem-B, using it as a coverage move to maim things, Dragon Claw is the bread and butter of this physical set, having the advantage of not being locked onto Outrage. And lastly, Ice Beam is used for bulky ground types such as Landorus-T, Gliscor, Donphan, and Hippowdon. Being able to abuse the prevalence of Bulky Water Types in the metagame, Kyurem-B can easily gain a quick advantage over a Rotom-W or Gyarados.​
    Importable:
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    Abomasnow (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Snow Warning
    EVs: 16 Atk / 252 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Blizzard
    - Grass Knot
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Earthquake
     
    Froslass (F) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Cursed Body
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Spikes
    - Taunt
    - Shadow Ball
    - Destiny Bond
     
    Heatran (M) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Stealth Rock
     
    Latias (F) @ Light Clay
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Reflect
    - Light Screen
    - Healing Wish
    - Draco Meteor
     
    Tentacruel (M) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Rain Dish
    EVs: 252 HP / 236 Def / 20 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Toxic Spikes
    - Scald
    - Protect
     
    Kyurem (Kyurem-B) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Teravolt
    EVs: 56 HP / 216 Atk / 236 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Substitute
    - Fusion Bolt
    - Dragon Claw
    - Ice Beam

    Conclusion:
    So, all in all, this concludes my first RMT here on the new style of the Smogon forums, powered by XenFeno. Now, looking at this team, I think it's my best work ever yet, even better than the previous one I had on PO, the one with Kyurem that was equipped with a Choice Scarf, and not having the best synergy out there, or the best support as well. And yes, like I said before, it's been quite a while ever since I like, made an RMT or something, so, if there's any mistakes or anything that needs to be address, feel free to like VM or PM me as possible, and I'll gradually change some mishaps on it. Now, yes, there are some flaws here with this team, somewhat of having 3 pokemon that are weak to fighting, going up against Sun or Sandstorm Teams, and let's not forget, most of my team does not enjoy Stealth Rocks that much. But overall, Hail will always have a significant use of ant-weather style, and is a perfect use not only in the holiday, but all year long. Other than that, if you enjoy this RMT, please send me that luvdi-oh wait, we don't have that feature hear anymore. Oh well, if you like what you saw here, leave a comment or a suggestion or anything that's possible to change this team if you want. So, yeah. Oh, and if you want to like, have a good feel on this team, I have a replay of PS, if you want:
    Final Glance:
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  2. Plastic Moose

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    This team looks pretty solid, but I have one question: why are you using Ice Beam on kyurem-B instead of Blizzard? It is a hail team, so Blizzard would be much more powerful.
    Cheeseguy12 likes this.
  3. Touymato

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    As much as Blizzard is more powerful, sometimes, Blizzard would miss.
  4. 100%

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    Hey Touya!

    This team is excellent and defines how most Hail teams should look like, but just a reminder: there is no such thing as a hail team; Abomasnow's Snow Warning is only anti-weather support. I strongly recommend you use the Mixed Expert Belt set consisting of Ice Shard | Wood Hammer | Hidden Power [Fire] | Earthquake. Blizzard can go over Earthquake, if hitting Ninetales on the switch isn't your concern. The Mixed Expert Belt set is much better than the Choice Scarf set in this metagame. Sure you might get some Heatran Earthquake kill, but then you end up being set-up bait to Salamence, and it proceeds to sweep your team. The part of how these threats sweep your team clean with one boost is the problem, and a way to remedy this to get a dragon slaying christmas tree is run this set. Ice Shard is practiacally one of the reason you want to use Abomasnow, since it provides enough utility that you don't need to forgo a Choice Scarf user or Mamoswine. The only threat I can see rampaging through this team is Gyarados, but i don't see how it'll be setting up on any of your Pokemon, bar Heatran.

    You should run Blizzard over Ice Beam on Kyurem-B. Blizzard has 100% accuracy in hail, something that I think you forgot as I read byt the nature of your last post. Blizzard is much more powerful and hits like a truck, and this is needed considering your running the Physically oriented spread for Kyurem-B. Idealy, Kyurem-B wants Earth Power over Dragon Claw. Kyurem-B doesn't need its Dragon-STAB to be effective, and it simply just destroys Rotom-W and Bronzong. Using the the special oriented spread won't hurt at all considering Kyurem-B's Attack stat is 396 uninvested. Also, your Kyurem-B only needs 52 HP EVs to make 101 Substitutes. The reason the on-site one has 56 is because it runs Hidden Power which lowers the HP. 52 HP / 220 SpA+ / 236 Spe is all that's needed.

    Why are you running Dual Screens Latias? There are much better users of that move like Espeon and Magnezone, so I find Latias a fairly useless user of that move. This is more of a bulkier Hail Balance team right? I'd like to see you run a Choice Scarf Latios over your current kind. You need that speed and I find that your only powerful member is Kyurem-B, and it's not all that fast. Using a Choice Scarf Latios lets you outpace Choice Scarf Terrakion, another huge threat to this team, as well as Keldeo! Sure, you lose Healing Wish, but I don't see the point, since your mebers want to do there job by supporting Kyurem-B and at that point, it's a sweep. 130 SpA Draco Meteor will give you the two pack punch to break through your enemies defenses, so Kyurem-B can just set-up a Substitute and desetroy the team with its coverage. This team is really cool!

    Hope I could help! =D
  5. Cheeseguy12

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    Blizzard never misses in hail.Nice team btw

    Frosslass ability not in OU
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    This team is awesome. The Abomasnow/Tentacruel/Heatran core is incredible. I love Latias's set. Everything has very good synergy and the team support is phenomenal. Ice Beam is a more conservative option over Blizzard when taking into account the considerable chance of running into opposing weather in OU, and acknowledging that you may not always have Hail up when you need it. I love it. ♥
  7. Touymato

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    Yes, I know that Blizzard never misses in hail, however, outside of hail, it would miss. And yeah, I know, it looks cliche to see Froslass having cursed body, and in OU too, but, Snow Cloak can be banned in most sites, such as PO.
  8. Explorer

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    Nice team here. I would agree that Blizzard should replace Ice Beam on Kyurem-B to better abuse the hail. Also I'd suggest Psychic over Draco Meteor on Latias because it capitalizes on Latias's Fighting resistance. Kyurem-B is already your dragon killer anyway.

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