Wynaut** [QC: 3/3]

Original analysis written by The Unlucky one. This analysis, among others, had to be completed and submitted in a hurry for Smogon's new dex. The OP here has been fully changed to reflect QC's version of this, written by Heysup. Corkscrew has already QC checked this within the LC QC project and his changes have already been implemented, and Ray Jay and prem have QCed on the forums, making this QC 3/3.

Overview
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- One of the most annoying Pokemon to fight against
- Access to Shadow Tag, one of the best abilities in the game, good synergy with CounterCoat
- Nice check to some Pokemon like Meditite, Snover, and pretty much anything that doesn't super-effectively hit it.
- With Safeguard, it can also trap an counter slow walls such as Foongus, Lileep and Slowpoke.
- Sadly, so much of the meta can break through it, due to the abundance of Knock Off,
- Still a nice safety blanket against some Pokemon, and Encore is just so helpful to have with Shadow Tag.

Why Not?
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name: Why Not?
move 1: Encore
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Safeguard / Tickle / Destiny Bond
ability: Shadow Tag
item: Berry Juice
EVs: 236 HP / 132 Def / 132 SpD
Nature: Bold

Moves
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- Encore to lock people into non-attacking moves like Stealth Rock or Defog, for free setup.
- Counter to counter physical attacks, as a part of the CounterCoat combination.
- Mirror Coat is for special attacks, completing the CounterCoat.
- Safeguard aids set up Pokemon if a status inducing move is Encored. It also allows it to avoid Toxic and Sleep which would greatly hinder Wynaut.
- Tickle can be used in conjuction with Pursuit or Diglet to trap and KO something with ease.
- Destiny Bond is a cool last ditch effort.

Set Details
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- EV spread gives maximum HP, totaling 49 with Berry Juice. This means Wynaut is technically capable of dishing out 96 damage before fainting.
- Bold is chosen to absorb Fighting-types attacks more effectively, however the Defense and Special Defense EVs can be customize to deal with specific Pokemon.
- Added speed can be used to safely outpace Ferroseed and Encore it. It has the ability to speed creep on many walls, depending on what you want to remove. 92 EVs gives it 10 Speed, allowing it to outspeed most slow walls.


Usage Tips
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- Encore non-attacking moves like Stealth Rock, then switch out for free momentum.
- Use it to remove specific counters like Timburr or Meditite.


Team Options
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- It's really good when you have a frail setup team, a good failsafe on some Offensive teams.
- Good when you need a reliable Meditite check.
- Reliably gets rid of Choice Scarf users.
- Set up sweepers are very effective at using the turns provided by Encore.
- Diglet or Pursuit is very useful with Tickle, meaning the opponent is stuck using something like Stealth Rock and is going to have -6 Def.
- Voltturn users are fantastic partners as they can often give Wynaut a free switch in.

Other Options
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- Splash.
- Literally none.
- Eviolite maybe???????????

Checks and Counters
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- There are no true counters to Wynaut, since outside of Volt Switch, U-Turn, Baton Pass and Parting Shot nothing can switch into it.
- Using Wynaut is really risky against setup sweepers that can potentially outmindgame you, like Pawniard, Misdreavus, and Dwebble.
- Anything with Taunt kills it.
- Ghost-types are immune to the effects of Shadow Tag this generation.
- Spritzee isn't affected by encore, so can use Wynaut as set-up bait.
 
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It's ready to go, I'll be gone for a bit, school is just starting but I can change stuff every now and then if needed
 
Tickle-->Pursuit trapper is pretty cool, especially with the Steel nerf and more Berry Juice users. Wynaut synergizes well with Dark-types like Pawniard and...Pawniard, who like having Fighting-types removed. Wynaut can't really use Destiny Bond because it's so slow.

Safeguard is an option if you don't want the next switch to get statused after you Encore a paralysis move.

Also, 92 Speed EVs allows Wynaut to outspeed Spritzee and Encore Calm Mind / Wish / Aromatherapy, which is pretty cool. Also Hippopotas, if people still use that thing.

ALSO SCARF WYNAUT IS THE ONLY SET
 
Dar
Tickle-->Pursuit trapper is pretty cool, especially with the Steel nerf and more Berry Juice users. Wynaut synergizes well with Dark-types like Pawniard and...Pawniard, who like having Fighting-types removed. Wynaut can't really use Destiny Bond because it's so slow.

Safeguard is an option if you don't want the next switch to get statused after you Encore a paralysis move.

Also, 92 Speed EVs allows Wynaut to outspeed Spritzee and Encore Calm Mind / Wish / Aromatherapy, which is pretty cool. Also Hippopotas, if people still use that thing.

ALSO SCARF WYNAUT IS THE ONLY SET
put in everything bar Safeguard (too situational) and the 92 Speed because well I think Aroma Veil beats out Encore
 

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QC 1/3
  • Last slot should be Destiny Bond / Tickle for reasons amber pointed out
  • Safeguard in other options
  • Mention Spritzee / Lickitung / Chinchou as teammates for being clerics because it sucks if this guy gets statused
  • You haven't mentioned nature in the set, should be Bold
  • Mention it has high hp but is still relatively frail (especially with Berry Juice) so making mistakes if you dedicate an entire teamslot to Wynaut is very costly
 
You removed the header for the set name. It should go directly above the "name: Why Not?" and look like this:

Why Not?
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In addition, please remove the underscores from the top of the set, the formatting should not be different than the example presented in SevenDeadlySin's post.
 
Berry Juice should be the only item. It gives it a second life, allowing it to Counter or Mirror Coat more than just one Poke. Also, I found that running enough Speed EVs to get two points (like 96 iirc, which I probably am not) to outspeed walls and most other uninvested things.

Remove mentions of Gligar and Swirlix.

Mention Dratini as a teammate who usually can't find the time to set up since it has terrible bulk, and it can sweep teams after one DD.
 
IMO Safeguard >>> Destiny Bond. You'll rarely get to make a use of Destiny Bond unless you run like 10-11 speed and it becomes a pretty good choice then.
Safeguard let's you completely walk over Foongus and Slowpoke. If you don't slash it in, at least mention it in other options.

I'd also be sure to mention different EV spreads. There are probably about 4 different EV spreads that work very well. 11 speed, physically based, specially based, and mixed defenses. The one you posted works of course, but there are plenty of other viable spreads that perform different roles and focus on beating different things.

And yeah IMO remove Eviolite from other options, the only situation where it's better is like tanking a Shadow Ball or Knock Off really.
 

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okay now that bri has brought to my attention that c&c still exists, its time to get shit done.

The Unlucky one


-listen to wobb abuot destiny bond. ive been using wobb a lot lately and i never find destiny bond useful. tickle might actually be the best move but i havent tested safeguard.
-mention in OO a fast spread and dbond in that.
-mention how shadow tag lost the ability to trap ghost so its actually incapable of beating missy now :(


after that QC 2/3
 

Goddess Briyella

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This Pokemon, as is the case with many others, was on a list of Pokemon that were high priority and needed to have completed skeletons for Smogon's new dex as soon as possible. As such, the OP of the thread has been fully edited to reflect the QC team's writeup of this Pokemon, as it will make things run a lot faster.

Thank you for understanding. :)
 

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