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Sticky XY Sprite Project (read 1st post): Release v1.1 on Post #3240

Discussion in 'Smeargle's Laptop' started by Layell, Aug 5, 2013.

  1. TrainerSplash

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    I'm liking what is being done here, better than what I could do. "Butt fin" could use more editing, but I'm not worried about it as what you could do along with the smaller one next to it needs to be added. Can't give a full critique cause it's not done yet. But yeah I like it.

    As for Greninja I was thinking we could use Smash Brothers as an idea to expect from him as we see it in actions for rare animations idle animations and such.
  2. Legitimate Username

    Legitimate Username chrom i need u 2 marry that dancer so inigo hav armthrift/RK
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    Alright, it's about time that I provided an update on this.
    [​IMG]
    Only one of the back arms should really be visible anyway. If you look closely, though, you can see a little bit of two others.

    I've made some fair progress on the backsprite too (all of the 4 small arms are completely done and the general placement of the big arms is set), but reference images are hard to find and I don't really feel like it would be a good idea to finish it just yet. I've also been a lot more busy with schoolwork than I thought I would be, which is definitely another reason why my contributions have slowed down. I'll try and pick it up more when I get the chance, or when Mega Milotic gets revealed because that would be like the most awesome thing ever. Happy 500 posts, me.
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    OK, busy weekend over.
    [​IMG] ==>[​IMG]
    Here is the front completed for now, though if anyone else wishes to take a stab at it's stupid shaped fins I'd appreciate it. I can't get them to look right. I'm also uncertain if I should use my last shade for a more fitting orange for the trails (like I am now), or a second shade of grey for the segments.

    I've also included a finished backsprite possible pose for it's back. Ray is long enough that the perspective changes quite a bit from behind, so it might not be optimal to have it in the same pose front and back; Just look at old ray:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
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  4. TrainerSplash

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    Nice work, however I think the lower right in the back should be sticking out further or be bigger.
    I'll probably edit the fins once I have time, too lazy and gotta finish Pika Pop Star. I don't like using the red for the trails, should be another shade of orange like in the first picture.

    Edit: found the problem, on the fins you are making the inside more roundish at the corner, when it should be straight like a polygon or a spike. Spiking it up instead of a gradual change would most likely fix it. I'll still fix that later.
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  5. Layell

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    I might argue another black shade is necessary for ray, although I have no idea what that shiny will be (and it will murder us do not doubt it)

    [​IMG]

    Took about an hour to off this, at this point it's just another hour or so of style checking and making the shading right, which atm I do not want to do.

    (for those of you who aren't spriters an hour is actually really really fast for me, these things take time appreciate them)
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  7. Layell

    Layell Alas poor Yorick!
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    If you happened to see a credit page with us let me know RedAgent, thanks for the offer

    Here is some Hawlucha updating to make the shiny work nicely

    [​IMG]
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  9. TrainerSplash

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    There's an English version of the site.
    But you're right they dot give credit, they also use the mega mewtwo Y we created.
  10. Layell

    Layell Alas poor Yorick!
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    I love that this german site has a small banner that links to this but still show no credit to us (as far as I see atm)

    top lol

    until then wall of shame for these hypocrites.

    BTW anyone speak German here and can get in touch???
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  11. Ridaz

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    Regarding this, it looks like, in the anime, it shows that Mega Salamence's wings can bend, like in the picture bellow
    This may solve the wing problem. For those tackling the sprite, i hope it helps
  12. sunny004

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    Hello,

    So I wanted to get into spriting and help out with this project, but have no idea what software you guys use to create/edit Sprites.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    EDIT: Responding to Ridaz I think the only reason why GF had salamence's wings straight was for elegibilty for those f***ing sky battles. Mega Zard X is in the same boat.
  13. princessofmusic

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    Suggestions are available in the OP, and this question has been posed many times before (we should have an official FAQ), but here you go:
    • MS Paint - the old-fashioned option (princessofmusic and Quanyails)
    • Photoshop - who can afford this anyway (PoM sometimes)
    • Paint.net - Photoshop for the poor (Layell 'cause he's a noob)
    • GraphicsGale - does animation as well, and the free version is as good as paid (Wyverii)
    • Aseprite - another obscure one that allows easy palette swaps
    • GIMP - also Photoshop for the poor
    • other
    • The short answer is that any image editing software should be able to do the job, even something as crude as MS Paint. However, better programs such as Photoshop can offer features that make life easier, which might include layers, animation, and transparency support.

    Although I've been spriting evenly, I haven't shared any updates on account of not sleeping nearly enough lately because of my workload, hence laziness and lack of motivation. Thankfully, I have this upcoming week off, so I might just reveal something then.

    Mega Salamence

    Currently, I prefer Ridaz's pose the most. It's the most similar to BW Salamence and allows us to draw its body at the right size without making the wings look really weird. Prior to this, I would've suggested a "diagonal" pose with the head closer to the top-left corner and the tail in the opposite direction. Kyuzeth, I know that you're dedicated to making this guy look like a champion, but I'm not fond of what you have going so far. It's really dissonant stylistically versus the BW sprites, and the wing shape is too indiscriminate (like a sausage). I personally feel that a flying pose that captures the crescent shape would be best.

    Mega Rayquaza

    That looks good so far, WPS. The back fins on the front sprite seem like they're positioned oddly, as in off to one side rather than parallel to the spine. It probably is the shape messing with the perspective.

    Cosplay Pikachu

    I'd say that frenzyplant's collection from page 111 is rather well done. I didn't realize how much taller Belle was compared to the official sprite; that was unintended lol. Anyone is free to redraw the Belle costume over vanilla Pikachu like the other forms if they please. Rock Star looks the best so far imo. PhD could use more shading if possible, as it looks flat. As mentioned, the Pop Star skirt should spring higher up, almost perpendicular to the waist like a classical ballet tutu. Libre should be redrawn using the official Pikachu.

    Mega Camerupt

    This guy looks pretty solid. WPS, I think that the toothy grin looks really silly for a 2D sprite, and while it's in the Sugimori art, it isn't in the in-game model. It would be worth trying a version with a closed mouth.

    Mega Slowbro

    who cares

    Mega Altaria

    I remember telling Cynical that the necks he drew stretched out too far and that the tail curves aren't smooth. You should fix those, if you get a chance. I think that Altaria should have a flying sprite.

    I haven't seen a definitive version of Lopunny that I really like (same with Sableye, although the gem should be opaque, and its whole face should show), and while it would be nice if the Primals could be made larger than normal, I don't want to worry about that right now. That should be about it since I last commented on things, ten p/ages ago.


    It's been so long but if you'd like to have a chuckle or an interesting read, check this out: http://pastebin.com/4zRGCmDz (maybe PG-13)
  14. TrainerSplash

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    But... Libre chu was originally a vanilla Pikachu sprite... As was all the other Pikachu I made... ALL MY WORK HAS GONE TO WASTE. I'm gonna cry now, thanks a lot.

    Whatever I bet I can construct a better Libre and Pop over the weekend perhaps belle too.

    Also for sableye I have been trying to make it opaque but I think constructing it this way was easier and get back to it later.

    Edit: oh god my live stream. We seriously need to have a stream that random like that again.
    It was fun.

    Edit2: I call dibs on both Mega Pidgeot and Mega Beedrill
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  15. Kyuzeth

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    I'm gonna work on a new Mega Salamence sprite based off of the image posted by Ridaz, just making note on that. When I have a draft, I'll update this post and then keep on updating it.
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    Huzzah.
    QC Updates! (open)

    Mega-Alakazam
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    New
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    Old
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    • Gave the face more definition (The current one's face looked dull to me)
    • Color likened to Gen V Alakazam's palette
    • Beard makeover!
    • Restructured the spoons and shaded it in a way that shows its concavity

    Mega-Gengar
    Front [​IMG] Back [​IMG]
    (The purple-pink gradient was darkened in the back so the transition from the shadow to the pink-purple gradient is smoother)
    New
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    Old
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    • Back spike makeover! (Again, thanks for axl for providing the arrangement for the spike formation. I'm sure I got that one right this time...and it's loooooong overdue)
    • Miniscule edits on the spikes on the front sprite

    Mega-Medicham
    [​IMG]

    New

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Old
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    • Additional shading to the floating bandages to give it more depth
    • Outline of the leg up (back) extend more to the left
    ...as suggested by Layell but I decided to forgo the proposed palette because the outcome of the shading looked too "harsh" for me. If still disapproved -well, the colors that is- I'm going to tinker around with reduced color palettes to use. Also, I'm sure that the palette is within the 15-color limit now. ;u;

    As always, comments and suggestions are welcomed~
  17. Layell

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    I did it for the shiny you silly boy.

    Your gengar and ala both have stray pixels, I'll leave it up to you if you want to do their shiny checks as well. I'll certainly need one for Gengar later but it looks like it ought to be fine.

    Regarding ala palette, normally I'd agree on the same, but the colour difference is rather huge:

    [​IMG] >[​IMG]

    I guess going mega isn't so saturating of a time??? I might insist on a softer one. Otherwise good stuff

    Speaking of shiny fixing in general I did this last night before heading out:

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    Still kind of amazed this made it as a 15 colour sprite, although I still have a few edits to make on it in general.

    EDIT: More of some megas, should probably get them all shiny anyways on PS since it's been about a year now lol

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    only small edits now, but seeing these as shiny will be leading to more edits when I have time.
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  18. Snivy101 (Chris White)

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    I think we need to redo Vivillon. I know we've gotten far with it, but its sprite has been bothering me for some time now.
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    I put it in the style square or what I think was a gift from....someone who I don't remember, but it clearly has something that makes it different. One of them is style/shading. That needs some tidying up especially at the body, and the body also should just be redone. It's wings also should be a little bigger.

    Also:
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    We should use the top left sprite for Gallade's Mega.
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  19. sunny004

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    Hey,
    So I know that Mega Salamence is beeing worked on already, but I saw Ridaz's image and decided to make some wings based off of that.
    I just took the BW Salamence and changed the wings, so that's why you're seeing its body, because the mega evo between the two are mainly aesthetic imo.

    Anyway here they are:

    Front:
    [​IMG]
    Back:
    [​IMG]

    Please bear in mind that these were my first sprites. EVER. So it might be a little rough around the edges.
    ...
    Also, I was wondering if anyone knew how to get rid of transparent background in MS paint. I have no idea and it's really annoying.

    Any questions, comments, and/or feedback would be greatly appreciated!
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    I do believe aXl is already going to work on Mega Gallade all by himself and he's been really intent on making it, so I'm certain he knows what to do with it. On another note, Mega Gallade has its left arm to the front, not the right arm.

    You've done a good job on the sprite, but I'm just gonna tell you right away I'm making the complete sprite from scratch all by myself. Still, pretty good job.
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    Thanks!
    If you want to use those wings feel free.
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    Result of a few hours of tinkering: PhD back, small changes to Pop's and PhD's fronts, references.
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    Snivy101, your suggestions are never particularly helpful. Instead of haranguing busy people, you could take a shot at your own quality control now and then. There are many others here who are willing to lend a hand, and while not everyone is at the same skill level, we appreciate the effort.

    In February, Legitimate Username (rightfully) chewed you out for fussing about revising Garchomp and Lucario, which are of the lowest priority. This is one example of the kind of posts we don't appreciate, and you've made many of them.

    Vivillon is on aXl's to-do list. Kyuzeth is right.
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  24. TrainerSplash

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    First of all Stream time. making Mega Beedrill and Mega Piedgot fixing my pikachus. Feel free to come and give feedback.
    Second of all I got a new deviant art and will start uploading some of the sprites there.

    Edit: I hope you guys actually come a lot more for this one, as I'm gonna need help with this more customizable from scratch Pokemon.
    upload_2014-10-11_20-10-40.png
    Here's what I have so far, please note that this is just a draft, and I stopped cause I wanted to get working on more things. More updates either later tonight or tomorrow.
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    I'm sorry if those are already made / reserved by someone; I will just leave those and you decide if they can be of any use~

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