National Dex Ubers Chansey used Confide! (Special Wall Chansey) [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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Chansey used Confide!

Chansey: Palkia-O? More like Palkia-Zero!
The opposing Palkia-O’s Sp. Atk dropped
Chansey: Eternatus? More like Eterna-miss!
The opposing Eternatus’s Sp. Atk dropped
Chansey: Arceus-Fairy? More like Arceus-Not-Scary!
The opposing Arceus-Fairy’s Sp. Atk dropped

[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Aromatherapy
move 2: Soft Boiled
move 3: Confide
move 4: Seismic Toss / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
tera type: Grass
IVs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]

* Chansey is a staple Pokemon on stall teams thanks to its excellent cleric utility, useful status absorbing ability in Natural Cure, and absurd special bulk with Eviolite that allows it to wall threats such as non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, Eternatus, and Palkia-O.
* Aromatherapy allows Chansey to serve as a crucial cleric by removing status from Arceus-Dark and Ho-Oh. In addition, it removes sleep from allies such as Dondozo and Giratina that rely on Rest for recovery.
* Confide allows Chansey more easily wall Primal Kyogre, non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, and Eternatus by nullifying any Calm Mind or Meteor Beam setup attempts, although Chansey should be aware of its PP lest these threats have an opportunity to set up later.
* Seismic Toss is another option that allows Chansey to break Palkia-O’s Substitute and to do damage to Taunt Arceus formes. Toxic allows Chansey to slowly wear down the Pokemon it walls such as wallbreaker Primal Kyogre and non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy while punishing typical switch-ins such as Primal Groudon, specially offensive Yveltal, Rayquaza, and Arceus-Ground. However, using Toxic means Chansey is completely shut down by Taunt, and it is easier for defensive Primal Kyogre and Substitute Palkia-O to deal with
* Tera Grass allows Chansey to wall wallbreaker Primal Kyogre by tanking Water Spout more comfortably, in addition to minimizing the damage defensive Primal Kyogre can do to it.
* Chansey should not be afraid to switch into special threats such as Primal Kyogre, Meteor Beam Eternatus, and Palkia-O. However, it must be wary of its HP or it will easily be overwhelmed by threats such as Water Spout Kyogre and +1 Deoxys-A under Psychic Terrain. After sustaining damage, Soft-Boiled should be used on free turns such as when Chansey forces out wallbreaker Primal Kyogre and Palkia-O. However, it must be aware of Soft-Boiled's PP or else it will compromise its ability to check these threats. Chansey also serves as an excellent switch-in to status spreaders such as Giratina-O and defensive Ho-Oh thanks to Natural Cure.
* Chansey is very vulnerable to physical attacks and can easily be set up on by threats such as Taunt Arceus-Ground and Facade Mega Salamence, so checks to these such as Arceus-Dark and Dondozo make excellent teammates. The two of them can collectively check these threats as well as Pokemon such as Arceus, Zacian-C, and Zygarde.
* Chansey is quickly shut down by threats such as Taunt Yveltal and Arceus-Fairy, so teammates that can check them such as Eternatus and Ho-Oh are valuable.

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Ping when applied please. Because there are a lot of changes I'd like to review it before stamping 1/2
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[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Toxic Aromatherapy
move 2: Soft Boiled
move 3: Confide
move 4: Aromatherapy / Seismic Toss / Toxic I'm very hesitant to allow Toxic on the set in the first place, but Chansey always needs the ability to be a cleric.
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
tera type: Fairy / Grass The reasoning given isn't enough to justify Tera Fairy
IVs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]

* Chansey is an staple excellent doesn't have to be the word staple but something that indicates that it is mandatory Pokemon on stall teams thanks to its excellent utilitywhat utility?, useful status absorbing ability in Natural Cure, and absurd special bulk with Eviolite that allows it to wall threats such as Primal Kyogre, Eternatus, and Palkia-O. Defensive Primal Kyogre easily beats Chansey so long as something else absorbs a couple of Seismic Tosses. Wallbreaker Primal Kyogre could be specified, but Calm Mind Arceus formes lacking Taunt could be mentioned as well.
* Toxic allows Chansey to slowly wear down the Pokemon it walls such as wallbreaker Primal Kyogre, Palkia-Oit beats it with Seismic Toss anyways, and non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy while punishing typical switch-ins such as Primal Groudon, specially offensive Yveltal, Rayquaza, and Arceus-Ground. Move this to the end of the moves section. Toxic is easier for defensive Primal Kyogre to deal with than Seismic Toss.
* Confide allows Chansey more easily wall Primal Kyogre, non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, and Eternatus by nullifying any Calm Mind or Meteor Beam setup attempts. Mention that Chansey should be somewhat careful due to PP reasons (confide has the same pp as CM and Meteor Beam after Pressure).
* Aromatherapy allows Chansey to serve as a crucial cleric for the team by removing burns from Arceus-Dark and poisonings from Ho-Oh. In addition,(ac) it removes sleep from allies such as Dondozo and Giratina that rely on Rest for recovery. The wording is a bit clunky, you can just say remove status conditions from... Seismic Toss is a more niche option that allows Chansey to break Palkia-O’s Substitute and to do damage to Taunt Arceus formes-Fairy. However, its damage output is small due to the bulkiness of the tier and it is usually not worth sacrificing the valuable cleric support from Aromatherapy for it. Reword to address what is mentioned above in the moveset section. Seismic Toss should be presented as the default. It prevents Chansey from being entirely shut down by Taunt which is incredibly common.
* Tera Fairy allows Chansey to better wall non-Tera Blast Ghost Deoxys-A. In addition it allows Chansey to more easily tank Knock Off from non-Taunt Yveltal and use Toxic on it. Tera Grass allows Chansey to wall Primal Kyogre more efficiently by tanking Water Sprout more comfortably. It also helps v defensive Primal Kyogre.
* Chansey should not be afraid to switch in against special threats such as Primal Kyogre and Palkia-O. However, it must be wary of its HP or it will easily be overwhelmed by the threats it checkssuch as?, so after sustaining damage Soft Boiled should be used on free turns such as when Chansey forces out wallbreaker Primal Kyogredefensive just sets up on it and Palkia-O. Chansey also serves as an excellent switch-in to status spreaders such as Giratina-O and defensive Ho-Oh thanks to Natural Cure. Meteor Beam Eternatus is something you could list as something Chansey counters.
* Chansey is very vulnerable on the physical side and can easily be set up on by threats such as Taunt Arceus-Ground and Facade Mega Salamence, so checks to these threats such as Arceus-Dark and Dondozo make excellent teammates. Mention how they work in conjunction to handle physical attackers.
* Chansey is quickly shut down by threats such as Taunt users such as Yveltal and Arceus-Fairy, so teammates that can check them such as Eternatus and Ho-Oh are valuable.
 
bumboclaat said:
Ping when applied please. Because there are a lot of changes I'd like to review it before stamping 1/2
add remove comment
[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Toxic Aromatherapy
move 2: Soft Boiled
move 3: Confide
move 4: Aromatherapy / Seismic Toss / Toxic I'm very hesitant to allow Toxic on the set in the first place, but Chansey always needs the ability to be a cleric.
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
tera type: Fairy / Grass The reasoning given isn't enough to justify Tera Fairy
IVs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]

* Chansey is an staple excellent doesn't have to be the word staple but something that indicates that it is mandatory Pokemon on stall teams thanks to its excellent utilitywhat utility?, useful status absorbing ability in Natural Cure, and absurd special bulk with Eviolite that allows it to wall threats such as Primal Kyogre, Eternatus, and Palkia-O. Defensive Primal Kyogre easily beats Chansey so long as something else absorbs a couple of Seismic Tosses. Wallbreaker Primal Kyogre could be specified, but Calm Mind Arceus formes lacking Taunt could be mentioned as well.
* Toxic allows Chansey to slowly wear down the Pokemon it walls such as wallbreaker Primal Kyogre, Palkia-Oit beats it with Seismic Toss anyways, and non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy while punishing typical switch-ins such as Primal Groudon, specially offensive Yveltal, Rayquaza, and Arceus-Ground. Move this to the end of the moves section. Toxic is easier for defensive Primal Kyogre to deal with than Seismic Toss.
* Confide allows Chansey more easily wall Primal Kyogre, non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, and Eternatus by nullifying any Calm Mind or Meteor Beam setup attempts. Mention that Chansey should be somewhat careful due to PP reasons (confide has the same pp as CM and Meteor Beam after Pressure).
* Aromatherapy allows Chansey to serve as a crucial cleric for the team by removing burns from Arceus-Dark and poisonings from Ho-Oh. In addition,(ac) it removes sleep from allies such as Dondozo and Giratina that rely on Rest for recovery. The wording is a bit clunky, you can just say remove status conditions from... Seismic Toss is a more niche option that allows Chansey to break Palkia-O’s Substitute and to do damage to Taunt Arceus formes-Fairy. However, its damage output is small due to the bulkiness of the tier and it is usually not worth sacrificing the valuable cleric support from Aromatherapy for it. Reword to address what is mentioned above in the moveset section. Seismic Toss should be presented as the default. It prevents Chansey from being entirely shut down by Taunt which is incredibly common.
* Tera Fairy allows Chansey to better wall non-Tera Blast Ghost Deoxys-A. In addition it allows Chansey to more easily tank Knock Off from non-Taunt Yveltal and use Toxic on it. Tera Grass allows Chansey to wall Primal Kyogre more efficiently by tanking Water Sprout more comfortably. It also helps v defensive Primal Kyogre.
* Chansey should not be afraid to switch in against special threats such as Primal Kyogre and Palkia-O. However, it must be wary of its HP or it will easily be overwhelmed by the threats it checkssuch as?, so after sustaining damage Soft Boiled should be used on free turns such as when Chansey forces out wallbreaker Primal Kyogredefensive just sets up on it and Palkia-O. Chansey also serves as an excellent switch-in to status spreaders such as Giratina-O and defensive Ho-Oh thanks to Natural Cure. Meteor Beam Eternatus is something you could list as something Chansey counters.
* Chansey is very vulnerable on the physical side and can easily be set up on by threats such as Taunt Arceus-Ground and Facade Mega Salamence, so checks to these threats such as Arceus-Dark and Dondozo make excellent teammates. Mention how they work in conjunction to handle physical attackers.
* Chansey is quickly shut down by threats such as Taunt users such as Yveltal and Arceus-Fairy, so teammates that can check them such as Eternatus and Ho-Oh are valuable.
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bumboclaat ready for second look I believe.
 
Either remove Meteor Beam from Deoxys-A or clarify the conditions under which it can be a threat to Chansey (+1 Exapanding Force in Psychic Terrain) and this is good to go to 1/2
 
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[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Aromatherapy
move 2: Soft Boiled
move 3: Confide
move 4: Seismic Toss / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
tera type: Grass
IVs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]

* Chansey is a staple Pokemon on stall teams thanks to its excellent cleric utility, useful status absorbing ability in Natural Cure, and absurd special bulk with Eviolite that allows it to wall threats such as non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, Eternatus, and Palkia-O.
* Aromatherapy allows Chansey to serve as a crucial cleric for the team by removing status from Arceus-Dark and Ho-Oh. In addition, it removes sleep from allies such as Dondozo and Giratina that rely on Rest for recovery.
* Confide allows Chansey more easily wall Primal Kyogre, non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, and Eternatus removed extra space by nullifying any Calm Mind or Meteor Beam setup attempts, although Chansey should be aware of its PP lest these threats have an opportunity to setup later.
* Seismic Toss is another option that allows Chansey to break Palkia-O’s Substitute and to do damage to Taunt Arceus formes. Toxic allows Chansey to pressure the opponent by slowly wearing down the Pokemon it walls such as wallbreaker Primal Kyogre and non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy while punishing typical switch-ins such as Primal Groudon, specially offensive Yveltal, Rayquaza, and Arceus-Ground. However, using Toxic means Chansey is completely shut down by Taunt and it is easier to deal with for defensive Primal Kyogre and Substitute Palkia-O.
* Tera Grass allows Chansey to wall wallbreaker Primal Kyogre more efficiently by tanking Water Sprout more comfortably, in addition to minimizing the damage defensive Primal Kyogre can do to it.
* Chansey should not be afraid to switch in against special threats such as Primal Kyogre, Meteor Beam Eternatus, and Palkia-O. However, it must be wary of its HP or it will easily be overwhelmed by threats such as Water Sprout Kyogre and Meteor Beam Deoxys-A using Expanding Force at +1 under Psychic Terrain. After sustaining damage Soft-Boiled add hyphen should be used on free turns such as when Chansey forces out wallbreaker Primal Kyogre and Palkia-O should note that it should watch out for its PP. Chansey also serves as an excellent switch-in to status spreaders such as Giratina-O and defensive Ho-Oh thanks to Natural Cure.
* Chansey is very vulnerable on the physical side and can easily be set up on by threats such as Taunt Arceus-Ground and Facade Mega Salamence, so checks to these threats such as Arceus-Dark and Dondozo make excellent teammates. The two of them can collectively check these threats as well as Pokemon such as Arceus, Zacian-C, and Zygarde.
* Chansey is quickly shut down by threats such as Taunt Yveltal and Arceus-Fairy, so teammates that can check them such as Eternatus and Ho-Oh are valuable.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/anchor9.652323/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bumboclaat.523420/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/
 
Bobsican said:
Apply the following for QC 2/2

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[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Aromatherapy
move 2: Soft Boiled
move 3: Confide
move 4: Seismic Toss / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
tera type: Grass
IVs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]

* Chansey is a staple Pokemon on stall teams thanks to its excellent cleric utility, useful status absorbing ability in Natural Cure, and absurd special bulk with Eviolite that allows it to wall threats such as non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, Eternatus, and Palkia-O.
* Aromatherapy allows Chansey to serve as a crucial cleric for the team by removing status from Arceus-Dark and Ho-Oh. In addition, it removes sleep from allies such as Dondozo and Giratina that rely on Rest for recovery.
* Confide allows Chansey more easily wall Primal Kyogre, non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, and Eternatus removed extra space by nullifying any Calm Mind or Meteor Beam setup attempts, although Chansey should be aware of its PP lest these threats have an opportunity to setup later.
* Seismic Toss is another option that allows Chansey to break Palkia-O’s Substitute and to do damage to Taunt Arceus formes. Toxic allows Chansey to pressure the opponent by slowly wearing down the Pokemon it walls such as wallbreaker Primal Kyogre and non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy while punishing typical switch-ins such as Primal Groudon, specially offensive Yveltal, Rayquaza, and Arceus-Ground. However, using Toxic means Chansey is completely shut down by Taunt and it is easier to deal with for defensive Primal Kyogre and Substitute Palkia-O.
* Tera Grass allows Chansey to wall wallbreaker Primal Kyogre more efficiently by tanking Water Sprout more comfortably, in addition to minimizing the damage defensive Primal Kyogre can do to it.
* Chansey should not be afraid to switch in against special threats such as Primal Kyogre, Meteor Beam Eternatus, and Palkia-O. However, it must be wary of its HP or it will easily be overwhelmed by threats such as Water Sprout Kyogre and Meteor Beam Deoxys-A using Expanding Force at +1 under Psychic Terrain. After sustaining damage Soft-Boiled add hyphen should be used on free turns such as when Chansey forces out wallbreaker Primal Kyogre and Palkia-O should note that it should watch out for its PP. Chansey also serves as an excellent switch-in to status spreaders such as Giratina-O and defensive Ho-Oh thanks to Natural Cure.
* Chansey is very vulnerable on the physical side and can easily be set up on by threats such as Taunt Arceus-Ground and Facade Mega Salamence, so checks to these threats such as Arceus-Dark and Dondozo make excellent teammates. The two of them can collectively check these threats as well as Pokemon such as Arceus, Zacian-C, and Zygarde.
* Chansey is quickly shut down by threats such as Taunt Yveltal and Arceus-Fairy, so teammates that can check them such as Eternatus and Ho-Oh are valuable.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/anchor9.652323/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bumboclaat.523420/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/
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Implemented. Man I am horrible with including credits. Maybe deep inside I want nobody to get credited.
 
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1/1 GP Team done
[SET]
name: Special Wall
move 1: Aromatherapy
move 2: Soft Boiled
move 3: Confide
move 4: Seismic Toss / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Calm
evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
tera type: Grass
IVs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]

* Chansey is a staple Pokemon on stall teams thanks to its excellent cleric utility, useful status absorbing ability in Natural Cure, and absurd special bulk with Eviolite that allows it to wall threats such as non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, Eternatus, and Palkia-O.
* Aromatherapy allows Chansey to serve as a crucial cleric for the team by removing status from Arceus-Dark and Ho-Oh. In addition, it removes sleep from allies such as Dondozo and Giratina that rely on Rest for recovery.
* Confide allows Chansey more easily wall Primal Kyogre, non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy, and Eternatus by nullifying any Calm Mind or Meteor Beam setup attempts, although Chansey should be aware of its PP lest these threats have an opportunity to setup set up later.
* Seismic Toss is another option that allows Chansey to break Palkia-O’s Substitute and to do damage to Taunt Arceus formes. Toxic allows Chansey to pressure the opponent by slowly wearing wear down the Pokemon it walls such as wallbreaker Primal Kyogre and non-Taunt Arceus-Fairy while punishing typical switch-ins such as Primal Groudon, specially offensive Yveltal, Rayquaza, and Arceus-Ground. However, using Toxic means Chansey is completely shut down by Taunt, (AC) and it is easier to deal with for defensive Primal Kyogre and Substitute Palkia-O to deal with.
* Tera Grass allows Chansey to wall wallbreaker Primal Kyogre more efficiently by tanking Water Sprout Spout more comfortably, in addition to minimizing the damage defensive Primal Kyogre can do to it.
* Chansey should not be afraid to switch in against into special threats such as Primal Kyogre, Meteor Beam Eternatus, and Palkia-O. However, it must be wary of its HP or it will easily be overwhelmed by threats such as Water Sprout Spout Kyogre and Meteor Beam+1 Deoxys-A using Expanding Force at +1 under Psychic Terrain (saying meteor bean deo can be confusing here because the move actually beign used is expanding force). After sustaining damage, (AC) Soft-Boiled should be used on free turns such as when Chansey forces out wallbreaker Primal Kyogre and Palkia-O. However, it must be aware of Soft-Boiled's (add hyphen) PP or else it will compromise its ability to check these threats. Chansey also serves as an excellent switch-in to status spreaders such as Giratina-O and defensive Ho-Oh thanks to Natural Cure.
* Chansey is very vulnerable on the to physical side attacks and can easily be set up on by threats such as Taunt Arceus-Ground and Facade Mega Salamence, so checks to these threats such as Arceus-Dark and Dondozo make excellent teammates. The two of them can collectively check these threats as well as Pokemon such as Arceus, Zacian-C, and Zygarde.
* Chansey is quickly shut down by threats such as Taunt Yveltal and Arceus-Fairy, so teammates that can check them such as Eternatus and Ho-Oh are valuable.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/anchor9.652323/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bumboclaat.523420/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
Grammar checked by:
 
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