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yea redless scum equity is rising atm, I’m willing to flip this for now

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i see all of you guys jumping on redless and alice while i havent seen much content from either of them that was objectionable they typed like 1 message each lol. and its a bit too far for so early in the game no?
i dont like any of their posts yeah
I don’t like the newbies or Alice redless m2h run everyone else is null or tr
genisu can you give some insight into your progression on alice/redless
 
maf!genisu = high probability of maf jalmont

I also see some triangulation between des/jalmont/genisu mayhaps

kind of an undeveloped thought atp don't sheep it blindly if i die think it out
 
I'm also probably a bit confused on how jalmont gives saber a SR for saber's open being a thought that he disagrees with BUT he gives genisu a hard TR read for thoughts that are of a generally low level.

I think you can approach the game from a perspective of judging both players for their maturity level / gameplay knowledge and walk away town reading BOTH genisu and saber but I have a hard time seeing how jalmont doesn't TR saber there.

well it’s likelier town genisu for me because as mafia you have an agenda and thus should be more coherent than a townie no matter what your baseline of coherence is
Didn’t like their posts, very surface level and the des “scumslip” is bad logic as I said previously
 
REDLESS READS ACROSS THE GAME
Alice saying first post of redless has bad vibes #159
Lechen agreeing with alice #160
from m2h #175 possibly scumread there idk how to read that list
m2h pinging alice/redless as a pair #180
lechen says alice/redless seems plausible #194
flanders' vote on redless and reasoning #243/#249
first post from genisu quoted in my prev post #280
i think redless is sus #373/#375
redless in my scumpool #399
genisu doesn't like any of their posts #403/#405
lechen fine with redless vote #472
genisu fine with redless vote #493
lechen votes redless #517
genisu doesn't like redless vibes #523
dbd says rdelses scum eq is rising and votes redless #529

the only post that even qualifies as pushback is genisu #280 and that opinion changed down the line so there has been virtually zero pushback to redless as a vote, and i highly doubt mafia is just willing to drop redless here if he is mafia so i find this very strange
its not like only one person has read him either half the pl just went "yeah sure hes sus idm voting him"
 
lets see we have 11 town and we have 4 enemies, we probably only have a POE of ~6-7 or so though. This requires a town core of 8-9.

m2h / lechen / hyhy should probably all be town here
flandrs / genisu heavy town leans
ecat / des / saber probably go here as light town leans

that might win but lets see who that leaves us with

pulsar
redless
alice
joey
jalmont
catfries
dbd

eh

vote joey
 
I get that he’s in the PoE but I mean so are the two biggest suspects in Jal and Redless
 
why Joey?

I haven't heard anything from joey at all really. Like I could make the argument that in this threadstate pulsar/redless are lhf and the only world that I can see where jalmont is mafia is one where my tentative town core is wrong in other ways, but I can't really think of any reason to defend joey at all hear. I'd like to hear a lot more from him and other people's thoughts on him.
 
eh sure, I don't see why a slot that reads null-townlean to me is the best vote but that's fair

here's the reads I have so far, ask me if you want any explanation

towncore: me, Lechen
townread: M2H, genisu, des, Flandrs
townlean: none thus far
null: need to see more from joey/catfries/pulsar
scumlean: redless, alice?
scumread: jalmont
 
eh sure, I don't see why a slot that reads null-townlean to me is the best vote but that's fair

here's the reads I have so far, ask me if you want any explanation

towncore: me, Lechen
townread: M2H, genisu, des, Flandrs
townlean: none thus far
null: need to see more from joey/catfries/pulsar
scumlean: redless, alice?
scumread: jalmont

I don't think joey is really a null-townlean at this stage, no. He has basically no content in the thread in a gamestate where I am confident I have at least half the town identified within my towncore. By that virtue alone, he's kinda on thinner ice.
 
Not liking DBD's page 16
my thoughts regarding m2h is that there is above rand that he is scum, and if hes town he probably gets shot before he does anything anyway LOL so no big loss
hmm whatever, i still think from a utilarian perspective m2h is a good vote as town
Giving mafia a free kill is never good. M2H is not really a vote for today even if we think he could be scum. I find these post weird honestly.


I feel like des would be more active by now considering my dms with her in the previous game.
 
Not liking DBD's page 16


Giving mafia a free kill is never good. M2H is not really a vote for today even if we think he could be scum. I find these post weird honestly.


I feel like des would be more active by now considering my dms with her in the previous game.
what part of my page 16 sticks out to you alice
 
I don't know what to think about Joey. I think I've played with him twice: t/t and s/s. Both times his d1 felt similar to this.

He is not the worst vote because mafia has to have low posters judging by thread state or m2h and hh are scum
 
again, why is Joey the vote over someone like Redless with comparative levels of activity and who has done nothing to advance the threadstate? i really don't understand this line of thinking
 
again, why is Joey the vote over someone like Redless with comparative levels of activity and who has done nothing to advance the threadstate? i really don't understand this line of thinking
im not exactly sure why m2h/alice voted joey but smth i considered is that while redless and joey are very much comparable which joey definitely coming off a bit better, the redless push has had virtually no pushback against it which can be a red flag esp earlygame
 
You are pushing jalmont hard there with not the strongest arguments, HH already pointed them out. I fail to see how defending someone once gives info on a day 1. I don't think any vote today gives us good info especially with the number of messages this game has.
jalmont seems far more erratic than in previous games here, his random vote-switching also wasn't a thing in ToS
 
Before I hop on the prospective joey wagon, does anyone have prior game exp with him? We can check if he has comparable levels of inactivity in games where he is town. Anyways, i agree with redless wagon no pushback having red flags but i do think he could possibly be wolf tbh which explains why his first post emphasised hitting werewolf
 
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