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Lechen said:
Before I hop on the prospective joey wagon, does anyone have prior game exp with him? We can check if he has comparable levels of inactivity in games where he is town. Anyways, i agree with redless wagon no pushback having red flags but i do think he could possibly be wolf tbh which explains why his first post emphasised hitting werewolf
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Wait now that I think about it redless could be werewolf and that's why he wasn't defended by anyone
 
Lechen said:
I could see a joey/dbd pair because idk why he's defending an inact this hard but I'm pretty unsure abt this
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fwiw i'm fine with a joey vote today i'm just saying Redless seems like a better option here
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
im not exactly sure why m2h/alice voted joey but smth i considered is that while redless and joey are very much comparable which joey definitely coming off a bit better, the redless push has had virtually no pushback against it which can be a red flag esp earlygame
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this ^ nobody is saying "lol why redless" even though joey comes off as just as bad / worse to me in ISO.
 
Can someone explain the Redless story to me? 4 posts, #239 seems fine to me, the other three have basically nothing of value
 
i think the "towncore" is being way overstated,
HydrogenHydreigon said:
REDLESS READS ACROSS THE GAME
Alice saying first post of redless has bad vibes #159
Lechen agreeing with alice #160
from m2h #175 possibly scumread there idk how to read that list
m2h pinging alice/redless as a pair #180
lechen says alice/redless seems plausible #194
flanders' vote on redless and reasoning #243/#249
first post from genisu quoted in my prev post #280
i think redless is sus #373/#375
redless in my scumpool #399
genisu doesn't like any of their posts #403/#405
lechen fine with redless vote #472
genisu fine with redless vote #493
lechen votes redless #517
genisu doesn't like redless vibes #523
dbd says rdelses scum eq is rising and votes redless #529

the only post that even qualifies as pushback is genisu #280 and that opinion changed down the line so there has been virtually zero pushback to redless as a vote, and i highly doubt mafia is just willing to drop redless here if he is mafia so i find this very strange
its not like only one person has read him either half the pl just went "yeah sure hes sus idm voting him"
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this is a good summary of the redless thing, i skimmed over it before oops

so the entire read comes back to the first sentence of #82 which just says "we should vote d1" lol?
 
joey said:
i think the "towncore" is being way overstated,


this is a good summary of the redless thing, i skimmed over it before oops

so the entire read comes back to the first sentence of #82 which just says "we should vote d1" lol?
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Redless said:
I do think we should vote someone tonight bc on the offchance we hit the werewolf, it's very high payoff. Whereas hitting town will just encourage the other two factions to fight one another.
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I scumread him off this, weird emphasis on werewolf early and the second justification makes no sense, mafia would still want to hit town and get wolf lynched cuz two shots are needed to kill wolf. he reads werewolf to me tbh
 
Admittedly, it's not a solid reason but i don't feel like anyone has done much scummier things, except des but nobody wants to wagon that so here we go
 
Lechen said:
I scumread him off this, weird emphasis on werewolf early and the second justification makes no sense, mafia would still want to hit town and get wolf lynched cuz two shots are needed to kill wolf. he reads werewolf to me tbh
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This makes sense actually. I would still like to hear more from Redless now that there is actual game stuff going on tho
 
M2H said:
I'm also probably a bit confused on how jalmont gives saber a SR for saber's open being a thought that he disagrees with BUT he gives genisu a hard TR read for thoughts that are of a generally low level.

I think you can approach the game from a perspective of judging both players for their maturity level / gameplay knowledge and walk away town reading BOTH genisu and saber but I have a hard time seeing how jalmont doesn't TR saber there.
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Because posting more > posting little unless we are talking about mafia sweats in which case they post a lot regardless so it’s null.

I’m very obviously not entertaining most of his plans but the route to get to those plans is behavior that indicates someone trying to solve which I can appreciate
 
I thought it was suspicious the way that m2h swapped to the Redless train so late. It felt opportunistic to me. Like scum trying to rush the lynch.

Vote m2h

I am willing to be the sacrificial lamb as well. When I flip town please be very suspicious of the people who voted for me, especially those who waited until later to do so (instead of those that started the train).
 
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