NOC Rise of Team Galactic Mafia - OVER, Mafia Win

BY THE WAY: All vote counts and reveals will be linked in the first reply to this thread (the confirm post). Check there for a full list of VC links and day/night end links.

With 15 players alive, 8 votes are required to lynch.

Vote Count 1.3
Alice Kazumi (4) - Dead by Daylight, Aura Guardian, ImaginaryNeon, StupidFlandrs48
HydrogenHydreigon (2) - saberslasher11, bludedoom
StupidFlandrs48 (2) - Alice Kazumi, Lechen
NightEmerald (1) - CrreamyKitty
saberslasher11 (1) - HydrogenHydreigon
Lechen (1) - Ehmcee

no lynch (1) - JALMONT
 
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Celever said:
Current read is honestly that Alice is probably wrong town and Flandrs probably(?) just memed about the Team Plasma stuff but it’s an unfortunate coincidence lol

FTR my flavour has nothing to do with Team Galactic but it is consistent that Alice pressed on that. I just thought she was neighbours with Flandrs, Alice is always neighbour in NOC lol
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Quoting to note what I see as a link between Celever and Alice. If one of them flips mafia down the line, we should remember that. If one of them is mafia, I'd say Celever > Alice = Flandrs.
 
Celever said:
Current read is honestly that Alice is probably wrong town and Flandrs probably(?) just memed about the Team Plasma stuff but it’s an unfortunate coincidence lol

FTR my flavour has nothing to do with Team Galactic but it is consistent that Alice pressed on that. I just thought she was neighbours with Flandrs, Alice is always neighbour in NOC lol
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So what's the purpose of my role then. Someone made a comment about team plasma out of all pokemon evil teams that coincidentally lines up with the character me and mafia have to find. That comment is conveniently the easiest way to do it if you don't know the existence of my role because no one will think hard about it without my knowledge or the others mafia knowledge. I don't think my role would exist if mafia knew it in a medium power game like the host stated, it has no place being that weak.

Even if you don't think flandrs is scum, what are your thoughts about the reactions of other players to his posts (especially the first one about team plasma), my post claiming that he was ghetsis or my other posts?

Are we forgetting that flandrs somehow said that mafia could communicate in pregame for some reason when no one ever heard or mentioned that.

Your post could be both alignments. Given the timing my brain tells me it's towny but the first feeling I had when I read your post was not a good one. I won't try to focus too hard on your slot for now.
 
Does Alice put herself on the chopping block to connect the lost wolf if they exist?
 
Ok from the looks of it, at least in my opinion I feel like there's decent odds Alice / Flandrs is M/T

Now I've personally never heard of a "lone wolf hunter", the fact you know they exist and have claimed such potentially clues in actual mafia that they exist (assuming they weren't privy to that.)


Dead by Daylight said:
Does Alice put herself on the chopping block to connect the lost wolf if they exist?
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Probably not, this is an exceptionally risky play especially day 1
 
Dead by Daylight said:
Does Alice put herself on the chopping block to connect the lost wolf if they exist?
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How does the way I'm posting makes me connect with anything. If I were Getshis I would do something similar to what Flandrs did. If I was the informed mafia team I could do something similar to what Flandrs did but it's probably more efficient if that is done by the lone member.
 
Ehmcee said:
Ok from the looks of it, at least in my opinion I feel like there's decent odds Alice / Flandrs is M/T

Now I've personally never heard of a "lone wolf hunter", the fact you know they exist and have claimed such potentially clues in actual mafia that they exist (assuming they weren't privy to that.)
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My role is informed if that helps.
 
Ehmcee said:
Do you have any additional info (keep it to yourself)
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I choose to not reply to that :sphearical:

This is the information that I've shared:

- I am N and my role is informed
- There is a player whose character is Ghetsis.
- Ghetsis is a mafia member and shares win condition with the other mafia members.
- Ghetsis doesn't know the other mafia members (players) but he knows they exist.
- The other mafia members don't know Ghetsis (player) but they know the character exists.
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
i think bluedoom's #129 is fine alice read wise idk what he means by the role stuff tho

#158 is ag just speculating on what alice's motivations for voting jalmot are lol cuz i looked back and all i see in alice !vote jalmonting with no explanation
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Actually he ag got the end result right but the purpose wrong. I wanted to see if by having 4-5 votes on him he would actually play the D1 instead of doing nothing. I never wanted to actually vote him out.
 
Alice Kazumi said:
So what's the purpose of my role then. Someone made a comment about team plasma out of all pokemon evil teams that coincidentally lines up with the character me and mafia have to find. That comment is conveniently the easiest way to do it if you don't know the existence of my role because no one will think hard about it without my knowledge or the others mafia knowledge. I don't think my role would exist if mafia knew it in a medium power game like the host stated, it has no place being that weak.

Even if you don't think flandrs is scum, what are your thoughts about the reactions of other players to his posts (especially the first one about team plasma), my post claiming that he was ghetsis or my other posts?

Are we forgetting that flandrs somehow said that mafia could communicate in pregame for some reason when no one ever heard or mentioned that.

Your post could be both alignments. Given the timing my brain tells me it's towny but the first feeling I had when I read your post was not a good one. I won't try to focus too hard on your slot for now.
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I mean ftr I’ve just come out of a champs semis game where I was accused of TMI all game while being town so I’m probably conditioned to giving lee way here lol

Rereading Flandrs’ entrance post it does genuinely read as artificial and forced lol you might just be correct and the responsible thing is probably to kill Flandrs today (feels like an inevitability anyway lol)

There’s an above 0 chance he’s just unlucky tho. Like some of this doesn’t connect that well (the stuff about pre-game scum chat is irrelevant if Flandrs is lost wolf cos he’s not in the chat, and usually a scum team isn’t told the flavour of the lost wolf to know it’s Ghetsis) so yk there’s levels here lol

If Flandrs is Ghetsis and caught for this I have a lot of sympathy, lost wolf who gets found with flavour is a game design choice lol
 
Celever said:
I mean ftr I’ve just come out of a champs semis game where I was accused of TMI all game while being town so I’m probably conditioned to giving lee way here lol

Rereading Flandrs’ entrance post it does genuinely read as artificial and forced lol you might just be correct and the responsible thing is probably to kill Flandrs today (feels like an inevitability anyway lol)

There’s an above 0 chance he’s just unlucky tho. Like some of this doesn’t connect that well (the stuff about pre-game scum chat is irrelevant if Flandrs is lost wolf cos he’s not in the chat, and usually a scum team isn’t told the flavour of the lost wolf to know it’s Ghetsis) so yk there’s levels here lol

If Flandrs is Ghetsis and caught for this I have a lot of sympathy, lost wolf who gets found with flavour is a game design choice lol
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Yeah I agree with this and I feel bad about him no matter what alignment he flips. It was the role I was given so I will play to my wincon but I don't really like it.
 
Also I think AG’s post is weird but we shouldn’t assume we find 2 scum over this lol, but I think he put Flandrs as lowest likelihood wolf and randomly threw me into the Alice and Flandrs interaction

could just be reaching but could also be a halfhearted defence

If Flandrs is lost AG doesn’t know it’s him for sure but yk lol
 
Celever said:
I mean ftr I’ve just come out of a champs semis game where I was accused of TMI all game while being town so I’m probably conditioned to giving lee way here lol

Rereading Flandrs’ entrance post it does genuinely read as artificial and forced lol you might just be correct and the responsible thing is probably to kill Flandrs today (feels like an inevitability anyway lol)

There’s an above 0 chance he’s just unlucky tho. Like some of this doesn’t connect that well (the stuff about pre-game scum chat is irrelevant if Flandrs is lost wolf cos he’s not in the chat, and usually a scum team isn’t told the flavour of the lost wolf to know it’s Ghetsis) so yk there’s levels here lol

If Flandrs is Ghetsis and caught for this I have a lot of sympathy, lost wolf who gets found with flavour is a game design choice lol
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I feel like you're saying a lot on this issue without really saying much of anything. My entrance was artificial, but it's not problematic? You're taking the existence of Ghetsis at face value when all we have to go on is Alice's weird claim? I'm an inevitable lynch, but you magically give more leeway so I also shouldn't be lynched? Where's rhe actual stance landing here?
 
Celever said:
BTW I assume others either haven’t read the OP or I’m dumb but

60 hour days and 24 hour nights

Where do the other 2 hours go? Does deadline change by 2 hours every night? We need answers lol
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Gotta love Pidgeon going for 60-hour days, the logic behind it is horrible no matter what but it's probably along the lines of "nobody is ever happy with a fixed deadling in 24/48h games, so we should do 12-hour rotations so everyone gets to suffer equally!" Such an ass hosting decision
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
I feel like you're saying a lot on this issue without really saying much of anything. My entrance was artificial, but it's not problematic? You're taking the existence of Ghetsis at face value when all we have to go on is Alice's weird claim? I'm an inevitable lynch, but you magically give more leeway so I also shouldn't be lynched? Where's rhe actual stance landing here?
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I think some of these alleged contradictions are reaches lol

I didn’t say your entrance isn’t problematic. I read back and it is artificial, I agree with Lechen

Yeah I’m taking the existence of Ghetsis at face value

You are inevitable on the macro and I’m giving leeway on the micro, yes
 
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