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NOC Rise of Team Galactic Mafia - OVER, Mafia Win

I honestly think Saber is just town and floundering here against an unfounded scum accusation, it makes no sense at least in my eyes for a roleblock to affect mafia factional kill and I think that there's just a protective in the game that got the nightkill lottery right. CK's push on that ground felt rather odd to me.
 
StupidFlandrs48 (5) - Alice Kazumi, Lechen, Dead by Daylight, CrreamyKitty, Aura Guardian

could there be bus potential here from CK/AG? I'm pretty sure both Alice and Lechen are just town based off of this (Alice other things as well)
 
NightEmerald said:
im not defeatist im extremely irritated, there’s a difference. After playing a whole ass tournament on ps maf i come back here for a noc and realize that of course mafia keeps winning, people just sheep each other, play the game trusting of all information, and 70% never actually describe how they come to the reads i do. There’s an argument for me being defeatist today, but like, i literally got redchecked apparently. If you want actual defeatism, see psmpl game.. 5? Where I was convinced that since i was being a cockroach in the poe itd be better that i die because mafia benefits from having an easy shield at volo
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I’m not even talking about today, I’m talking about yesterday. Btw we voted out a mafia yesterday (no thanks to you, with all due respect) and no towns have died yet.

I think I’d rather vote saber today. !vote saber
 
NightEmerald said:
but fair point, I am getting heated, I will return to the game when people stop just voting and start publicly analyzing how the information of

flandrs flip
no kills
ck claimed rb on saber
pulsar claimed 2s cop on me

as well as the context of people’s posting in the thread can help us find scum
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sure, getting angry makes less progress then solving, so let's take a look at the game.

flandrs flip: imo ag and you are most implicated from this, but on a reread ag looks worse then you, because he immediately changed vote once he saw me sring him for defending a scummy slot. you were still arguing against a flandrs vote til the end, which doesn't feel like something scum would do ig??? someone talk w/ me on this pls (but if he isn't scum then he's miller so its bastard???)

no kills: either CK rbed or scum hit protective, not much to discuss

ck claimed rb on saber: i would inherently believe claims like roleblocker because if they are lying they should be CCed atp and usually town gets a hooker anyways. saber feels like he's flailing so hes def more sus then CK imo

pulsar claimed 2s cop on ne: well, i believe that a cop exists in this setup, esp since if a cop doesn't exist then ne is lying abt his role anyways (psure millers only exists along with alignment cops). so the choices here are: the game is bastard (which should be said in OP)/ NE is lying.

I personally think scum NE is most likely, considering how this game was looked over by tommy who detests lying to players and iirc has said mole roles are bastard so my vote stays on him, but i do want to talk about NE's thread actions which sort of don't line up with how scum would player.
 
That's great, we voted mafia, even if it was for totally wrong reasons, lmao.

I think voting NE is fine, I'd buy the miller claim more if he had claimed it before people suggested that in the thread(guys please) .

I still think that saber is mafia, dude comes into the thread only when he's put in the spotlight to defend himself and then dips afterwards.

If we're wrong about ne then we vote pulsar next unless he specifically flips miller in which case...I'd probably consider celever for his post in the previous page because that feels very lazy now.

Lechen is town especially because he voted Flanders for the wrong reasons; if Flanders was actually a lost wolf or something, maybe it would be easier to call that a bus, but being right for the wrong reasons is such a big indicator of the lack of tmi that I think calling this slot clean is fine.
 
Celever said:
Ok maybe this game is gonna invigorate me to write my game designing guide I started and then ADHD brained out of my life ngl lol

But sure we have a cop redcheck to go with our D1 flavour redcheck and our roleblock 95% redcheck :psywoke:

I think Emerald was widely scumread D1 so it sort of makes sense for saber to carry the kill instead of him, and that was actually an instinct I had when crreamy claimed I just didn’t say it out loud lol

anyway !vote: NightEmerald
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Specifically this post
 
Guess I should be wary of jalmont but I did mindmeld over being doubtful about ne since well, if he's mafia his play has made 0 sense as one, and the hostility has only made it worse for him.

I guess I'd have to relook dbd too if ne was town but eh.
 
Dead by Daylight said:
StupidFlandrs48 (5) - Alice Kazumi, Lechen, Dead by Daylight, CrreamyKitty, Aura Guardian

could there be bus potential here from CK/AG? I'm pretty sure both Alice and Lechen are just town based off of this (Alice other things as well)
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I agree Alice is conf town. I feel like AG is the most likely busser because he changed votes right after I scumread him for defending flandrs. everyone else (so dbd/ck) shouldn't get any towncred for this because it was pretty clear the slot was dying anyways in face of damning evidence.

HOWEVER I find it sus that Celever didn't vote, and his posts on flandrs was really hedgy, like the one below

Celever said:
Current read is honestly that Alice is probably wrong town and Flandrs probably(?) just memed about the Team Plasma stuff but it’s an unfortunate coincidence lol

FTR my flavour has nothing to do with Team Galactic but it is consistent that Alice pressed on that. I just thought she was neighbours with Flandrs, Alice is always neighbour in NOC lol
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bluedoom said:
That's great, we voted mafia, even if it was for totally wrong reasons, lmao.

I think voting NE is fine, I'd buy the miller claim more if he had claimed it before people suggested that in the thread(guys please) .

I still think that saber is mafia, dude comes into the thread only when he's put in the spotlight to defend himself and then dips afterwards.

If we're wrong about ne then we vote pulsar next unless he specifically flips miller in which case...I'd probably consider celever for his post in the previous page because that feels very lazy now.

Lechen is town especially because he voted Flanders for the wrong reasons; if Flanders was actually a lost wolf or something, maybe it would be easier to call that a bus, but being right for the wrong reasons is such a big indicator of the lack of tmi that I think calling this slot clean is fine.
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I need to reread celever I honestly can’t believe he brought that up especially given mafia has no day talk. It’s a really bad look especially given that it’s highly likely the mafia is flailing/in outer space
 
Celever said:
Saber is unlikely to be since it’d be troll to have lost wolf carry kill before they’re found or the last scum remaining
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I'm pretty sure that such a thing wouldn't be possible, as in the MU game I have repeatedly mentioned already I'm pretty sure it said something along the lines of 'Once the main team dies, you inherit the nightkill'.
 
Ugh, posting on Mobile is awful. Where was the bpv stuff?

Lechen said:
flandrs flip: imo ag and you are most implicated from this, but on a reread ag looks worse then you, because he immediately changed vote once he saw me sring him for defending a scummy slot. you were still arguing against a flandrs vote til the end, which doesn't feel like something scum would do ig??? someone talk w/ me on this pls (but if he isn't scum then he's miller so its bastard???)
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I switched because I realized that I missed something, not because of any reads on me.
 
this is where i was at post day 1

alice

dbd/ck/lechen

AG/bleudoom (in hindsight AG's vote move seems like it could be a bus...)

neutral - hyhy

ehmcee/pulsar/celever

neon/NE/saber
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now i think NE rises one but still scummy, saber drops hard, celever drops a little, pulsar goes up, AG goes down to null, bluedoom goes up, and ck is probaby town too.

my working theory is that we either have a passive mafia or they bussed flanders. I think the bus angle is very odd given so many non voters and the people i expect to bus would be like...celever lol. the no kill + saber hook is a horrible look and more good evidence for that theory. i also think the neon BPV claim is incredibly odd and it's super sus how he came into the day not knowing if his bpv still existed or not (afaik it is normal to be alerted if it is broken.

neon #339 is just so scummy in hindsight where he hedges super hard on flanders by saying he's the best vote but well actually it's too easy so we shouldn't vote him. it's like the mafia team thought flanders was going to die and half heartedly tried to save him but didn't want to commit to a bus which i feel like is right up neon's alley (being indecisive).
 
NightEmerald said:
i am miller with flavor of Team Galactic Defector, I didn’t want to claim it because it’s stupidly scummy to claim it now and the mechanically correct thing for town to do is to vote me anyway. We have a d1 scum vote, we’re MAYBE risking one of the 2 claimed prs assuming we have a protective. Therefore the correct thing for me to do here is to just ignore the redcheck on me and accomplish whatever progress I can, and hope the rest of the town can use what I’ve posted to
a) become better as mafia players because jesus christ
b) find scum
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im ngl this reads like mafia fakeclaiming LMAO
 
NightEmerald said:
but fair point, I am getting heated, I will return to the game when people stop just voting and start publicly analyzing how the information of

flandrs flip
no kills
ck claimed rb on saber
pulsar claimed 2s cop on me

as well as the context of people’s posting in the thread can help us find scum
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vote ne then saber, figure out rest after
idk if its too horribly complicated
 
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