NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

realiti said:
TOWNCORE
Nuxl: Very difficult to fake this level of engagement and solving attempt as scum

des: Very difficult to fake this level of engagement and solving attempt as scum

TOWNLEAN
JALMONT: Hard to see why scum!JALMONT would engage so heavily D2 in a dead thread, his posts seem to come from genuine thought and curiosity

Skipper: I’ve played with both town!Skipper & mafia!Skipper, his playstyle was drastically different between alignments and I correctly read him both times. He normally dodges the thread as scum and is sporadic as town, IMO he is strongly in his town meta this game

Flandrs: Good D1 posting IMO, strong thread presence when he was active. Liked his initiative and the interaction with JALMONT (don’t see why you’d antagonize him as town). Pretty blunt and to-the-point posting, which I associate more with town than scum (who normally try to word things in non-committal manners). However, he is below JALMONT and skipper because I don’t know his meta and he doesn’t have many reads.

SCUMLEAN
Duskfall98: I liked his earlier posts where he was casually tossing out town reads, thought that he wasn't forcing an agenda which I associate with his scum play. But I don’t like his push on Neon, it comes out of nowhere during a lull in the thread. Neon is a sporadic player and it’s hard to see why Tommy would pop in and go “THIS is the one scum read I have,” especially when he knows about Neon’s history. I understand the other Neon voters who couldn't think of better options, but Tommy's push seems opportunistic. Also don’t like his D2 entrance, he says he’s tilted but just waves off the vote and disappears - feels like he’s trying to pretend to be annoyed but doesn’t actually care.

DbD: Early CK tunnel D1 was fine, but then CK continues to flood the thread and DbD doesn’t re-evaluate the slot or interact with her posts. Seems like a lazy scumread made to avoid giving actual reads - I do this a lot as scum as well

Lechen: Don’t like his D1 progression, meh entrance -> scum reading two easy targets. Ironically I can apply his scumread on skipper to Lechen himself, seems like he’s throwing shade that doesn’t hurt his rep. Backtracking on the CK vote later was pretty towny IMO, but he goes back to the CK vote D2 which I found confusing.

SCUMCORE
Not enough happening to have someone here. This is my new term for players that I end up tunneling.
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apricity this read list is really bad imo
 
Yeti said:
The bell rings one last time as Hydro perishes, signaling the start of Day Three. I think D3 is supposed to be 72 hours and D2 was supposed to end 3 hours and 15 minutes ago? So D3 will end 11/12 2pm Pacific time. Whatever that is in your timezone. idk man. It's 5:17pm my time right now.
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sunny004 said:
Deadline is at 5pm EST on November 12, or approximately 17 hours and 40 minutes from now.
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To clarify, Yeti's post is incorrect. Deadline will be at 5pm EST Today, or approx. 7 hours 20 minutes from now.
 
creamy had a lot of psuh d1 and he kind of townread the entire wagon on him which is generally a terrible idea from scum, and the people voting him also were very scumreadable if youre making up reads as mafia

i think some of his solving seems like unorthdox not great but with the right spirit behind it today also, thought i think his day 1 was townier than today his interactions with a fairy do kind of suck at times
 
a fairy said:
CK's game start was odd according to some, and then they've consistently been a focus of conversation so people have developed more opinions than normal
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Hi! I saw your reach out, it’s good to play with you again as well.

I have a list of topics on my mind, what would you like to engage with me on?
-Jalmont
-Eli
-Tommy
-your current vote or my current vote (if you are not voting realiti)
 
Votecount 3.3
realiti (6): NightEmerald, Aura Guardian, M2H, apricity, a fairy, Duskfall98
Ehmcee (2): CrreamyKitty, Nuxl
NightEmerald (2): skippergamez, des121
apricity (1): JALMONT
Aura Guardian (1): realiti
CrreamyKitty (1): Dead by Daylight
Dead by Daylight (1): bluedoom
thechickening (1): Alice Kazumi

Not Voting (3): thechickening, Lechen, Ehmcee

18 players alive, so hammer is at 10 if I am doing my math correctly

Celever is back now, so he will be taking over again; this has been host sunny, signing off!
(I'll still be around for VCs/hammers if needed)
 
Nuxl said:
we should have turbod hydro, the apathy as a result killed the game over the weekend i think. my reads arent solid either way but i think promoting a more active eod is ideal.
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Killed is a strong word but it feels it got a bit stale, I'm struggling to joining in honestly. The fact that I'm playing very differently to other games and no one seems to mind is weird to me. I guess the player number is too high?
Nuxl said:
i also think scum is mostly within inactives in general though
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This is like the fourth or fifth person that thinks like that, maybe we should focus on inactive slots?
Nuxl said:
Im ngl i forget which of alice or ehmcee subbed in for pulsar
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ehmcee subbed for pulsar

M2H said:
i am once again waiting in case there are questions for me

time for a new avatar imo
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Have you read the novel this character is from? :blobwizard:

bluedoom said:
what has changed your mental state to have this abomination of an avy?
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bluedoom said:
Game started on D1.

The bold is what I'm deliberating on, been having a back and forth with nuxl on that the last few pages. But the thing that initially made me feel off about the wagon wasn't even like, trying to save CK or anything, just, the reasons for voting Neon didn't feel genuine when I know that at least 3 voters(jalmont,tommy, a fairy) have given him a pass for the same behaviour in previous games. Like nothing he did in this game was different from his town range in previous games(which is really just posting spreadsheets and trolling) so yeah.
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I think jalmont justification for the vote is the best so far considering how he has changed his playstyle over last games. He literally afked d1 in a previous game just to not get voted out after being voted multiple times d1 as town. I can totally see his justification being real. The other 2 came worse than him.
My problem with jalmont is that is d2-d3 has been worse so I might drop him a bit in my list.
 
Duskfall98 said:
creamy had a lot of psuh d1 and he kind of townread the entire wagon on him which is generally a terrible idea from scum, and the people voting him also were very scumreadable if youre making up reads as mafia

i think some of his solving seems like unorthdox not great but with the right spirit behind it today also, thought i think his day 1 was townier than today his interactions with a fairy do kind of suck at times
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Does this imply you think the people that were on me are town?
 
CrreamyKitty said:
Does this imply you think the people that were on me are town?
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no but the worst thing you can do as mafia is give people free license to push you, omgus is like a level 1 read and town does fight back against votes too

but on a more like detailed level, if you call your whole wagon town its a big risk beacuse you cant fight them as hard and if you dont convince them into reconsdiering you your options are a lot more limited counter wagon wise

there is like the tactical thought behind it that im not sure if you really thought into, but in general theres very few scum players who will blanket read their entire wagon town intentionally because they are always lookign to see who else they can push how can they get this off, one of the easiest ways is to call a push on you bs, you didnt really open yourself to that and in fact did the opposite and boxed yourself in which is bad scum play and also unlikely unless you really really love the gambit of it
 
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