NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

[a fairy]

This is super interesting. I'd like to engage with you on this very deeply

calling 1473 a game read is a stretch
1295 is a realiti TOWN read -- he says that realiti's scum game is predicated on pushing easy votes and not engaging on the game, which is why he is not voting realiti
This is 1219 -- it's calling out an interesting post

and 1215 is, like you said, just wondering why the guy who got shot got shot

i think he has expressed nearly zero opinions that I can hold his game to and that for me is very, very strange

What's your take?

i think 1473 is fine, maybe game read is the wrong term, it's one of the few reads this game has on chickening at all
1295 is literally a "i'd be scumreading realiti if i didnt have a meta case on him", hence why i put quotes around scum read. i know it wasnt a scum read, but it's jalmont going hey, that's someone who looks like scum if i didn't already have an assumption on that specific user and how they look like scum
1215 is an attempt to probe a part of the game that honestly should've been probed more, and unfortunately it didnt go anywhere, which is well within jalmont's MO. jalmont to me has always struck me as someone who really enjoys doing reviews on who the NKs were and why

im not sure what you were expecting out of jalmont, yeah okay maybe he's a bit weaker w/o any expected wallposts or whatever, but i think on a quick glance at a small ISO i found a few posts that show, to me, that jalmont is engaged in the game the way that seems within his playstyle to normally be engaged with. i'm not married to that view, before you asked me i didnt really have an opinion on jalmont, he just kinda seems there in the way that he exists and that's fine and he doesn't seem to be acting abnormally to me

 

[a fairy]

Thank you and welcome back. Why are you voting me again?

1770 is the big one but there's chatter throughout

 

[skippergamez]

morning! Was slammed with work so was unable to post & also thought the DL was tuesday instead of monday

i am on and off throughout the day but will get to everything in around an hour.

Can we get a VC?

Is this more towny or faking ignorance as scum (I personally think it’s towny)

 

[realiti]

1770 is the big one but there's chatter throughout

Yeah im gonna start responding from my recent post. Don't understand most ppl's logic from a skim before I slept last night but I'll refrain from being antagonistic. Do you actually scumread me or are you just voting me bc you don't have a better vote?

 

[Tommy]

this is a good question i dont know that i can answer tbh. i dunno most of your posting has either been non-existent or non-game-relevant posting w/ CK talking about mafia gameplay theory. again super hypocritical on that last part seeing as it's me talking but. idk maybe you start working towards the solve more often and don't vanish for entire cycles and then my thoughts improve but right now most of your presence has felt filler and that doesnt feel like tommy to me

see i feel like the tommy thread opressiveness is often actually my mafia gameplay

i will say yesterday i was checked out because the hydro vote was a given, and a bit tilted + i was playing other circus games more

but im a bit higher wim now that hal subbed in tbh its fun having a lot of the older players in thread together again

 

[realiti]

Is this more towny or faking ignorance as scum (I personally think it’s towny)

Dunno if you're talking about the DL or asking for VC but I'm clumsy like this on both alignments, and took the Tuesday DL from yeti's Day 3 start post (hence why I have not prioritized being here)

 

[CrreamyKitty]

Is this more towny or faking ignorance as scum (I personally think it’s towny)

I think it’s NAI, pay attention to what they post later imo

 

[a fairy]

Yeah im gonna start responding from my recent post. Don't understand most ppl's logic from a skim before I slept last night but I'll refrain from being antagonistic. Do you actually scumread me or are you just voting me bc you don't have a better vote?

its honestly closer to the latter than the former rn but i def dont tr you. did you read 1770

 

[a fairy]

see i feel like the tommy thread opressiveness is often actually my mafia gameplay

i will say yesterday i was checked out because the hydro vote was a given, and a bit tilted + i was playing other circus games more

but im a bit higher wim now that hal subbed in tbh its fun having a lot of the older players in thread together again

if you interpreted what i said as "tommy thread oppressiveness" then that's a you thing, i'm talking about "tommy tries to advance the game state"

 

[realiti]

see i feel like the tommy thread opressiveness is often actually my mafia gameplay

i will say yesterday i was checked out because the hydro vote was a given, and a bit tilted + i was playing other circus games more

but im a bit higher wim now that hal subbed in tbh its fun having a lot of the older players in thread together again

Same but you're voting me. Why do you think my readslist & read on you is bad? IDK why nobody is commenting on it but your neon push was awful

IMO your tone and pop-in was towny but your vote on me seems opportunistic

 

[Tommy]

if you interpreted what i said as "tommy thread oppressiveness" then that's a you thing, i'm talking about "tommy tries to advance the game state"

fair fair

 

[a fairy]

Same but you're voting me. Why do you think my readslist & read on you is bad? IDK why nobody is commenting on it but your neon push was awful

IMO your tone and pop-in was towny but your vote on me seems opportunistic

was this supposed to be @ me

 

[realiti]

its honestly closer to the latter than the former rn but i def dont tr you. did you read 1770

I skimmed the entire thread yesterday night but I havent had the chance to ISO or look up specific posts. What i'm doing now is liveposting if there's something to say and going back after that (that's why I appreciate ppl referencing things for me )

 

[a fairy]

okay, 1770 is the big "here is why i think we should vote realiti", i admittedly dont have any other links for you but obv some folks are on you rn so maybe they have their own thoughts to link to you to share

 

[realiti]

was this supposed to be @ me

no it was for tommy, but you can answer if you think it applies to you too

 

[Tommy]

Same but you're voting me. Why do you think my readslist & read on you is bad? IDK why nobody is commenting on it but your neon push was awful

IMO your tone and pop-in was towny but your vote on me seems opportunistic

i think the read based on my d2 was really bad and assumes you know nothing about how i play - theres no real reason for you to assume my d2 play was scummy, different sure, but not scummy

the neon push ive explaioned but of the options available at eod, neon was online to claim if pr, plus he his a liability end of game so he basically makes himself an inevitable vote if you dont want lylo to in fact by game over - its not always about the reads its about the mech of the game and actual paths to victory

 

[apricity]

Thank you and welcome back. Why are you voting me again?

good to be here. I don't normally talk to my scumreads about why they're my scumread. But i'm a late sub in so i'll give this a shot :)

i think my initial vote on you was before i caught up on the thread, when i thought it was odd that you were somehow in a null pile when i would have expected you to be sorted by page 70

i continued catching up on the thread and primarily thought that you were being performative: like, 1528 doesn't seem like an attempt at influencing gamestate. I was asked why flanders was in your TL pile -- so I asked you if you had maybe played with him before. And then you had mentioned that you would get back to your read on M2H and you never did

Overall I'm very concerned by your slot because it doesn't feel like you are approaching this game with strategy and intention. I just now read a post by Jalmont where he described your scum game as being empty surface-level interaction with the game, which is probably how I would describe your day 3.

I'm also deeply concerned that nobody has raised any alarm bells about you're in this weird null-scum section of the readslist. I would have thought in a game with Eli, tommy, and m2h all town that you would have received more attention because you would be a great candidate to deep wolf the game

 

[apricity]

i had asked you to explain your previous 3 votes and where you have tommy, eli, and m2h. tommy i know you sr, eli i don't care anymore, but would love to know where you are on m2h

 

[Alice Kazumi]

who is eli?

 

[a fairy]

no it was for tommy, but you can answer if you think it applies to you too

my neon push was predicated around him acting out of character fmpov, and him being a liability in the lategame. i hated the other wagons that were options at the time, they all had terrible reasons predicated on garbage D1 reads. neon seemed like a viable wagon to me, and if he's town maf are never killing him because he's always going to be a vote that places w/o any reasoning

 

[a fairy]

who is eli?

nuxl

 

[realiti]

i think the read based on my d2 was really bad and assumes you know nothing about how i play - theres no real reason for you to assume my d2 play was scummy, different sure, but not scummy

the neon push ive explaioned but of the options available at eod, neon was online to claim if pr, plus he his a liability end of game so he basically makes himself an inevitable vote if you dont want lylo to in fact by game over - its not always about the reads its about the mech of the game and actual paths to victory

Are you talking about the neon vote D1 or you shrugging off the Neon misvote D2? I'm not scumreading you becasue of inactivity but bc of the Neon vote. he is bascially unreadable d1 and there are 10 other ppl who have content that could be read (and not all of them were towny!). why would you as town flip a coin day 1 when we could sort neon another day when he posts more? if what you're saying is true, then we should vote Neon D1 every game which is a silly way of viewing the game

d2: its more of an extension of my d1 read on you

 

[Tommy]

Are you talking about the neon vote D1 or you shrugging off the Neon misvote D2?

neon was voted d1?

 

[realiti]

my neon push was predicated around him acting out of character fmpov, and him being a liability in the lategame. i hated the other wagons that were options at the time, they all had terrible reasons predicated on garbage D1 reads. neon seemed like a viable wagon to me, and if he's town maf are never killing him because he's always going to be a vote that places w/o any reasoning

im more familiar with tommy's meta where he forces agendas to push votes as scum. you voted after him correct? TBH i haven't tried hard to read you bc you're a hard read for me and wanted to sort that later on

 

[skippergamez]

I'm also deeply concerned that nobody has raised any alarm bells about you're in this weird null-scum section of the readslist. I would have thought in a game with Eli, tommy, and m2h all town that you would have received more attention because you would be a great candidate to deep wolf the game

This is the only good scumread on realiti I’ve seen. The others just do not make