but yeah this is my first time on this kinda format
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At least I can watch like 50 different games of golf at the same time so it tickles the ADHD part of my brain
remind me why you voted realiti?
what sport do you like watching the most?
you can watch 50 people repeatedly try to hit a ball into a tiny hole built into the ground and compete to see who can have the lowest amounts of tries to hit that ball into the tiny hole built into the ground so there's that at least?
tbh bluedoom doesn't look great from this either. i still town read overall though based on tone/effort
All right.
pulsar/ehmcee is locktown bc they claimed gun with no CCs
its not a green check, there's a line where AP had the gun and mafia shot him and got control of the gun. Its still very unlikely, but that's not locktown.
hm that is true, good note
nuxl/apricity/bluedoom/NE/des/me/skip/lechen
which leaves
ehmcee/CK/DBD/AF/chickening/Alice/AG
gun to my head i probably take ehmcee and idk chickening out.
leaving CK/dbd/AF/alice/AG. That seems pretty okay?
I really do think there is scum on the neon wagon. it's just such an easy vote to justify. i haven't really pursued it because i'm incriminated to. but given me and nuxl town, AF is someone i don't feel great about that almost has to be scum. i could be swayed on des too. i know apricity is worried about nuxl but i just can't pursue that right now, or even tomorrow.
which leaves
ehmcee/CK/DBD/AF/chickening/Alice/AG
gun to my head i probably take ehmcee and idk chickening out.
leaving CK/dbd/AF/alice/AG. That seems pretty okay?
I really do think there is scum on the neon wagon. it's just such an easy vote to justify. i haven't really pursued it because i'm incriminated to. but given me and nuxl town, AF is someone i don't feel great about that almost has to be scum. i could be swayed on des too. i know apricity is worried about nuxl but i just can't pursue that right now, or even tomorrow.
idk why des has been locktown
she's null-top of the null pile for me
she's null-top of the null pile for me
every time i answer this someone yaps about how much they hate my answer
one half of it is that with the thread focusing on realiti and nightemerald, i really kinda had to look between the two of them to see who i felt better about. most of y'all seem experienced anyway, i didn't think it'd be a horrible idea to try and trust in other people's reads and well. worked out pretty great idk
i voiced my opinions, said opinions weren't really being given too much time of day, and i certainly am not in the position to be spearheading a vote. i agreed with the realiti reads, and voted realiti in turn.
Nobody is talking about Eli today, including you and including me.
I legitimately think we got the big name out yesterday and were in a really good position in a setup good for town and I don’t want anyone to get paranoid.
What’s the difference between CK/DBD/AF/AG
I’m not touching Alice.
Whose reads did you trust? Who are your towns actuallyevery time i answer this someone yaps about how much they hate my answer
one half of it is that with the thread focusing on realiti and nightemerald, i really kinda had to look between the two of them to see who i felt better about. most of y'all seem experienced anyway, i didn't think it'd be a horrible idea to try and trust in other people's reads and well. worked out pretty great idk
i voiced my opinions, said opinions weren't really being given too much time of day, and i certainly am not in the position to be spearheading a vote. i agreed with the realiti reads, and voted realiti in turn.
Hi here’s a JALMONT iso
Takeaways:
Why does he refer to Lechen twice after 1108, even though he had his eye on them.
Why does he never bring up Alice after he can’t have an opinion on her both on 1108 and 1220
What is that d1 progression from not voting (“It’s Rand voting”) to crusading those who don’t vote
1995 is really confusing and makes his d3 extremely messy
Btw I didn’t do d4
JALMONT
What I’m looking for: reads period but opinions on realiti and others on this scumpool. Also are they trying to solve the game using roles and stuff like that
128 Wants to sleep through d1, only interesting in voting 5ish people
135 Would vote people if they’re a town liability late game
137 Thinks voting d1 is essentially random voting
138 By sleeping he meant idling. Doesn’t advise people take that strategy
143 Doesn’t want to vote new players d1 if Tommy or Cel has a soul read on them
185 Happy Tommy agrees with him
208 Pretty much dodges AP‘s question saying he’s explained himself already
413 Replying to Flandrs/Hal: Says policy voting and meta reading are both a bad idea, but he’s willing to revisit the topic of his “meta reads”
751 Votes Neon
768 Claims to not read Nuxl’s post, wants people to vote/not troll
786 Again reiterates that voting late game town liabilities is the way to go
801 Claims policy voting Neon on day 1 never happens
815 Replying to Nuxl saying “Why the sass”: “You sassed me first…by making an unfounded statement?”
851 Not a Neon specific vote but a vote on people who don’t vote “the last game was so catastrophically trolled”
922 Clarifies “the last game”
962 Suspicious of people flooding the wagon, stays based on principle
1053 Replying to AP: Very concerned with seeing another game end the way the last one did
1077 Is a small guy defender, but the lack of caring and self-reflection is extremely irritating
1080 Replying to Tommy: 4 people on the leading d1 wagon is the big problem with people not voting
** So we have an interesting progression of “I’m not gonna vote” —> “How dare people not vote d1”
DAY 2
1108 Zeroing in on nonvoters, gives a pass to Alice but watches Lechen and thechickening
1110 Votes thechickening
1132 Claims he is not tilted, in fact he says that he accepted that they may mislynch, got unlucky that they landed on Town PR
1157 Asks thechickening to vote
1160 Asks thechickening to vote right now
1161 Wonders if we live in a world where M2H/Nuxl/Tommy/BD are all town. He believes that, he feels town is disoriented. He would look at the neon wagon but that feels hypocritical
1208 Tells people to stop voting if there’s hammer
1214 He’s really tired of seeing people not try in the endgame. He’s not happy of voting based on that, but for this game he can live with it. He’s not gonna apologize for not placing a vote on HyHy, he wasn’t really pushing it
1215 Says AP’s NK is really interesting, did town a lot of the “big ones”: M2H/Nuxl/Tommy/BD, he feels maybe town is off, he feels pretty ok about realiti, doesn’t feel bad about anyone
1216 Feels weary of thechickening, doesn’t think there was a concerted effort against Neon
1218 Replying to AP contradicting his Neon read from this game and dance mafia: Seems to be considering looking at Neon voters.
1219 Replying to DBD: Says his “today’s agenda” post is interesting he didn’t post those things other than “CK is scum”
1220 Trying to think of a reason not to vote HyHy (he doesn’t vote HyHy spoiler alert), concerned about there being too many nulls. He wants to hold people accountable for not voting.
He feels ok about:
nuxl/bleudoom/des/lechen/pulsar/realiti/dusk/af/m2h
can’t give an opinion on Alice or HyHy
leaves dbd/skip/NE/flanders/CK/chicken/ag
Suggest we go into the pool of NE/DBD/pulsar/CK (just said in the same post he felt ok about pulsar)
Questions AG voting M2H
1263 Questions where NE is
1288 Suggests ending d2 (on 1208 he wants to stop hammer, granted an irl day passed). Weary about DBD not talking about bellringer claim d1
1295 He would be on realiti but he feels that their scum game is based on pushing easy votes and making surface level observations.
1301 Replying to Nuxl: Says he makes meta reads a lot (413 he says to Flandrs that meta reads are bad)
1348 Replying to M2H: says the flipped town guy disagrees with M2H’s read on pulsar (is ok with voting pulsar)
1427 Clarifies he’s talking about AP
1430 (M2H says AP is god sarcastically) Defends AP is credible because we know he’s town, M2H hasn’t shown anything credible
1433 Makes note that M2H basically says that we shouldn’t focus on flipped players.
1435 Says M2H can still do that
1438 Suggests M2H vote him
1440 Maintains his vote on thechickening
1473 Replying to thechickening: Says the main concern about thechickening is that they try to fit in while not going beyond surface level
1474 tries to push to d3 again, asks if you would vote for someone who would it be?
1600 Says he feels he doesn’t to be townread by most people. NE is worrying him. Again thinks we need to move to d3
** Ok so JALMONT d2 was reiterating his stance on no voters, but also repeatedly pushed for d3 to end, spent a lot of time talking with town!M2H, actively disagreeing with them
DAY 3
1694 Votes DBD
1697 Doesn’t like how DBD brought the bell ringer stuff up out of the blue, and they haven’t moved from CK. Feels DBD is only involved in a superficial manner
1757 Concerned with the holdover on CK. Doesn’t have to do with anything since d1. Thinks Nuxl voting for Flandrs is a bad path
1792 Votes Flandrs
1797 Doesn’t get the Flandrs vote
1827 Doesn’t get what Nuxl is trying to get from the Flandrs vote
1833 encourages Flandrs/BD/Tommy/thechickening/a fairy/Lechen/Ehmcee to vote
1835 Calls out Lechen for not voting
1944 Letting the thread cook
1951 Says voting for Flandrs was courtesy to Nuxl because he townreads Nuxl
1995 Not sold on anyone struggles to scumread Tommy/af/DBD/NE (insane progression on DBD btw)
1996 Gets mad at Lechen for not voting
2227 Says Tommy is delulu for thinking he is scummiest of the Neon voters, asks him why he is the worst voter
2245 Tells the chickening to bold vote
2315 Calls thechickening shady. Won’t vote for realiti but finds it auspicious that he doubles his post count
2326 says thechickening realiti vote post is suspect, puts them “back” into the scumpool
2335
Scumpool is chicken/af/thomas/ne/skip/Dbd with Ehmcee and CK (he said it was hard to scumreads NE and DBD)
2367 apologizes for misgendering
2372 says there is merit to a hero shoot, but don’t shoot Nuxl/M2H/BD/Hal
2395 Thinks DBD is lurking mafia
2400 Not interested in voting Tommy
2407 Thinks realiti is more town than not, using his reasoning on 1295
2498 Votes DBD
2518 Doesn’t think Tommy is town (he struggles to scumreads him as well)
2519 Actually he doesn’t think he is mafia (in scumpool on 2335)
2577 Clarifies he doesn’t push Zuko on d1, but Neon
** Skates around the realiti topic and completely ignores it EoD. Has some insane progression on the likes of Tommy, NE, and DBD **
What I’m looking for: reads period but opinions on realiti and others on this scumpool. Also are they trying to solve the game using roles and stuff like that
128 Wants to sleep through d1, only interesting in voting 5ish people
135 Would vote people if they’re a town liability late game
137 Thinks voting d1 is essentially random voting
138 By sleeping he meant idling. Doesn’t advise people take that strategy
143 Doesn’t want to vote new players d1 if Tommy or Cel has a soul read on them
185 Happy Tommy agrees with him
208 Pretty much dodges AP‘s question saying he’s explained himself already
413 Replying to Flandrs/Hal: Says policy voting and meta reading are both a bad idea, but he’s willing to revisit the topic of his “meta reads”
751 Votes Neon
768 Claims to not read Nuxl’s post, wants people to vote/not troll
786 Again reiterates that voting late game town liabilities is the way to go
801 Claims policy voting Neon on day 1 never happens
815 Replying to Nuxl saying “Why the sass”: “You sassed me first…by making an unfounded statement?”
851 Not a Neon specific vote but a vote on people who don’t vote “the last game was so catastrophically trolled”
922 Clarifies “the last game”
962 Suspicious of people flooding the wagon, stays based on principle
1053 Replying to AP: Very concerned with seeing another game end the way the last one did
1077 Is a small guy defender, but the lack of caring and self-reflection is extremely irritating
1080 Replying to Tommy: 4 people on the leading d1 wagon is the big problem with people not voting
** So we have an interesting progression of “I’m not gonna vote” —> “How dare people not vote d1”
DAY 2
1108 Zeroing in on nonvoters, gives a pass to Alice but watches Lechen and thechickening
1110 Votes thechickening
1132 Claims he is not tilted, in fact he says that he accepted that they may mislynch, got unlucky that they landed on Town PR
1157 Asks thechickening to vote
1160 Asks thechickening to vote right now
1161 Wonders if we live in a world where M2H/Nuxl/Tommy/BD are all town. He believes that, he feels town is disoriented. He would look at the neon wagon but that feels hypocritical
1208 Tells people to stop voting if there’s hammer
1214 He’s really tired of seeing people not try in the endgame. He’s not happy of voting based on that, but for this game he can live with it. He’s not gonna apologize for not placing a vote on HyHy, he wasn’t really pushing it
1215 Says AP’s NK is really interesting, did town a lot of the “big ones”: M2H/Nuxl/Tommy/BD, he feels maybe town is off, he feels pretty ok about realiti, doesn’t feel bad about anyone
1216 Feels weary of thechickening, doesn’t think there was a concerted effort against Neon
1218 Replying to AP contradicting his Neon read from this game and dance mafia: Seems to be considering looking at Neon voters.
1219 Replying to DBD: Says his “today’s agenda” post is interesting he didn’t post those things other than “CK is scum”
1220 Trying to think of a reason not to vote HyHy (he doesn’t vote HyHy spoiler alert), concerned about there being too many nulls. He wants to hold people accountable for not voting.
He feels ok about:
nuxl/bleudoom/des/lechen/pulsar/realiti/dusk/af/m2h
can’t give an opinion on Alice or HyHy
leaves dbd/skip/NE/flanders/CK/chicken/ag
Suggest we go into the pool of NE/DBD/pulsar/CK (just said in the same post he felt ok about pulsar)
Questions AG voting M2H
1263 Questions where NE is
1288 Suggests ending d2 (on 1208 he wants to stop hammer, granted an irl day passed). Weary about DBD not talking about bellringer claim d1
1295 He would be on realiti but he feels that their scum game is based on pushing easy votes and making surface level observations.
1301 Replying to Nuxl: Says he makes meta reads a lot (413 he says to Flandrs that meta reads are bad)
1348 Replying to M2H: says the flipped town guy disagrees with M2H’s read on pulsar (is ok with voting pulsar)
1427 Clarifies he’s talking about AP
1430 (M2H says AP is god sarcastically) Defends AP is credible because we know he’s town, M2H hasn’t shown anything credible
1433 Makes note that M2H basically says that we shouldn’t focus on flipped players.
1435 Says M2H can still do that
1438 Suggests M2H vote him
1440 Maintains his vote on thechickening
1473 Replying to thechickening: Says the main concern about thechickening is that they try to fit in while not going beyond surface level
1474 tries to push to d3 again, asks if you would vote for someone who would it be?
1600 Says he feels he doesn’t to be townread by most people. NE is worrying him. Again thinks we need to move to d3
** Ok so JALMONT d2 was reiterating his stance on no voters, but also repeatedly pushed for d3 to end, spent a lot of time talking with town!M2H, actively disagreeing with them
DAY 3
1694 Votes DBD
1697 Doesn’t like how DBD brought the bell ringer stuff up out of the blue, and they haven’t moved from CK. Feels DBD is only involved in a superficial manner
1757 Concerned with the holdover on CK. Doesn’t have to do with anything since d1. Thinks Nuxl voting for Flandrs is a bad path
1792 Votes Flandrs
1797 Doesn’t get the Flandrs vote
1827 Doesn’t get what Nuxl is trying to get from the Flandrs vote
1833 encourages Flandrs/BD/Tommy/thechickening/a fairy/Lechen/Ehmcee to vote
1835 Calls out Lechen for not voting
1944 Letting the thread cook
1951 Says voting for Flandrs was courtesy to Nuxl because he townreads Nuxl
1995 Not sold on anyone struggles to scumread Tommy/af/DBD/NE (insane progression on DBD btw)
1996 Gets mad at Lechen for not voting
2227 Says Tommy is delulu for thinking he is scummiest of the Neon voters, asks him why he is the worst voter
2245 Tells the chickening to bold vote
2315 Calls thechickening shady. Won’t vote for realiti but finds it auspicious that he doubles his post count
2326 says thechickening realiti vote post is suspect, puts them “back” into the scumpool
2335
Scumpool is chicken/af/thomas/ne/skip/Dbd with Ehmcee and CK (he said it was hard to scumreads NE and DBD)
2367 apologizes for misgendering
2372 says there is merit to a hero shoot, but don’t shoot Nuxl/M2H/BD/Hal
2395 Thinks DBD is lurking mafia
2400 Not interested in voting Tommy
2407 Thinks realiti is more town than not, using his reasoning on 1295
2498 Votes DBD
2518 Doesn’t think Tommy is town (he struggles to scumreads him as well)
2519 Actually he doesn’t think he is mafia (in scumpool on 2335)
2577 Clarifies he doesn’t push Zuko on d1, but Neon
** Skates around the realiti topic and completely ignores it EoD. Has some insane progression on the likes of Tommy, NE, and DBD **
Takeaways:
Why does he refer to Lechen twice after 1108, even though he had his eye on them.
Why does he never bring up Alice after he can’t have an opinion on her both on 1108 and 1220
What is that d1 progression from not voting (“It’s Rand voting”) to crusading those who don’t vote
1995 is really confusing and makes his d3 extremely messy
Btw I didn’t do d4
Lmao this is like the biggest post I’ve ever seen from you
What’s Jalmont’s trajectory on lechen specifically
what opinion are you referring to being voiced here? because you literally never talked about realiti until you voted themevery time i answer this someone yaps about how much they hate my answer
one half of it is that with the thread focusing on realiti and nightemerald, i really kinda had to look between the two of them to see who i felt better about. most of y'all seem experienced anyway, i didn't think it'd be a horrible idea to try and trust in other people's reads and well. worked out pretty great idk
i voiced my opinions, said opinions weren't really being given too much time of day, and i certainly am not in the position to be spearheading a vote. i agreed with the realiti reads, and voted realiti in turn.
for ck to fit you would have to believe the mafia had some sort of weird game plan where they piled on them d1 and then ck town read them as some sort of weird ploy to build town cred. it's rvs so reasonable to some extent. will say i don't think CK was ever in any real danger as most of the votes were RVS with the exception of dbd which started as RVs and then continued because ???
naturally i believe CK more than the rest because CK has consistently town read me, which is correct.
again AG hasn't offered any reason to be given a town read unfortunately, especially compared with others.
i flat out can't read AF. someone brought up a good point tho that in the past AF has let neon slide and did not do so this game (and didn't have reasonable reasoning like tommy did imo).
ffs
Am I to understand the third list is your scumreads? I firmly disagree with that. The first two in your final list, I have as Null, and the next two I regard as towny. I also regard skip as scummy. Regarding Ehmcee's claim of the gun and only being a "gun to your head" thing... well.
As I was typing this, it crossed from just disagreeing to this:
##Unvote
##Vote: JALMONT