NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

realiti said:
TOWNCORE
Nuxl: Very difficult to fake this level of engagement and solving attempt as scum

des: Very difficult to fake this level of engagement and solving attempt as scum

TOWNLEAN
JALMONT: Hard to see why scum!JALMONT would engage so heavily D2 in a dead thread, his posts seem to come from genuine thought and curiosity

Skipper: I’ve played with both town!Skipper & mafia!Skipper, his playstyle was drastically different between alignments and I correctly read him both times. He normally dodges the thread as scum and is sporadic as town, IMO he is strongly in his town meta this game

Flandrs: Good D1 posting IMO, strong thread presence when he was active. Liked his initiative and the interaction with JALMONT (don’t see why you’d antagonize him as town). Pretty blunt and to-the-point posting, which I associate more with town than scum (who normally try to word things in non-committal manners). However, he is below JALMONT and skipper because I don’t know his meta and he doesn’t have many reads.

SCUMLEAN
Duskfall98: I liked his earlier posts where he was casually tossing out town reads, thought that he wasn't forcing an agenda which I associate with his scum play. But I don’t like his push on Neon, it comes out of nowhere during a lull in the thread. Neon is a sporadic player and it’s hard to see why Tommy would pop in and go “THIS is the one scum read I have,” especially when he knows about Neon’s history. I understand the other Neon voters who couldn't think of better options, but Tommy's push seems opportunistic. Also don’t like his D2 entrance, he says he’s tilted but just waves off the vote and disappears - feels like he’s trying to pretend to be annoyed but doesn’t actually care.

DbD: Early CK tunnel D1 was fine, but then CK continues to flood the thread and DbD doesn’t re-evaluate the slot or interact with her posts. Seems like a lazy scumread made to avoid giving actual reads - I do this a lot as scum as well

Lechen: Don’t like his D1 progression, meh entrance -> scum reading two easy targets. Ironically I can apply his scumread on skipper to Lechen himself, seems like he’s throwing shade that doesn’t hurt his rep. Backtracking on the CK vote later was pretty towny IMO, but he goes back to the CK vote D2 which I found confusing.

SCUMCORE
Not enough happening to have someone here. This is my new term for players that I end up tunneling.
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a partner was 100% mentioned in his scumleans yea? i think you don’t overcommit so hard on the wishiwashiness of lechen so it makes me just wanna vote dbd

if i squint hard enough jalmont is his townleans partner but realiti tends to distance rather than buddy, and im gonna guess this is especially the case if he’s the strongest/2nd strongest member
 
realiti said:
Lechen's pop-in was bad and his d1/d2 was bad, he is a good vote. AG is a good vote. After that, M2H (but im not sure who else scumreads him). Ok with DbD, ok with Zuko. Don't really want to vote Tommy today.

responding to ppl today, not sure what you're trying to ask of me?
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This has 3 bro lol
 
realiti said:
i think jalmont is fine. OC is a lot different than NOC but he was paralyzed for the entirety of Yeti's game and I see no reason why he would try to progress this game when it was in a dead state, seems sub-optimal if he was scum
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any reason to do you explicitly set up jalmont here if you’re like getting fucking crashed on

seems like something to level 1 spew for Ooh room for thought
 
realiti said:
zuko = the chickening, he was in bigvivor but is a newbie. pretty underwhelming compared to des imo

i said m2h has bad logic that can be faked, not sure what else needs to be explained?
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thechickening said:
afternoon <3

brief catch up: i’m zuko, still not a man (pronouns are they/them, and if someone could tell me how to make that more visible it would be much appreciated)

##Vote: realiti

The past few pages of tommy/jalmont makes me think there’s at least one wolf among them, considering i was already looking at jalmont i am inclined to find them wolfier.

real catch up on my lunch break in an hour LOL
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putting this in bold for anybody who is just skimming what I say, but dumb read that I kinda believe in

I believe realiti may have fucked up by calling thechickening zuko

it makes me think they’re interacting over discord and that’s how he’s used to calling them, that and the shitty antispew reason he used to put them in poe + zukos super fucking weird vote on realiti
 
ftr it’s also possible realiti saw his team and said “we can’t win this without distancing hard” so now im like not explicitly clearing ck if dbd is a hit - i think jalmont / thechickening is close to a difference check tho
 
realiti said:
NightEmerald:
#1770 - votes me off a wack m2h case that i explained why it was bad in #2191, then went AFK

AG:
#1771 - sheeping
#1998

fairy:
#2108, didnt actually scumread me (until recently?)

M2H:
Around Page 79. AFK. Scumreads me bc he thinks me and flandrs are partnered (i townread flandrs off first ten pages and maintains that his activity was NAI). Also has issues with my readslist (see tommy section)

Tommy:
Around page 86 - votes me bc of my read on him & readslist - i told him why i gave my read on him (agenda-based Neon vote) & justified my des townread (hard to fake engagement level), he went AFK

hal:
whole game - Subs in and tunnels me for ??? reasons. Bases reason off of me not being sorted into town pile (doesnt mean anything) and bc i want to vote m2h even though i didnt mention it before (explained why i wasn’t confident on m2h earlier, and why i disliked his pairing of me/flandrs now, see m2h section)

Alice:
#2236 & #2237 - doesn’t really give an actual reason to scumread, just says “decent odds” Alice Kazumi did u have an actual reason, i couldnt find it and am i your only scumread?

zuko:
#2242 - lol?

bluedoom:
#2261 - sheeping
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so from my PoV, 5 ppl are voting me to sheep/without giving a reason

4 of them ive addressed my issues but aren't engaging with me. the VC is also like 9-2 so me going on another wagon feels not that productive atm. do you understand where im coming from now?
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nice anti spew
 
realiti said:
i don't think the NE post is good, broke it down multiple times but nobody is interacting with my posts unfortunately. Honestly think ppl (scum + town) are miffed that my readslist deviated from public opinion LOL.

Inclined to think there's 2+ scum on me right now bc of wagon traction (+ town apathy). dunno why zuko came in to vote me or why AG/fairy arent voting who they scumread. hal scumreading me is pinging me - last game i scumread hal, he shot me N1 and steamrolled the game

Not sure what more i can do here, couldn't post earlier and wagon took off a long time ago...thats how it goes sometimes, if ppl dont wanna vote their scumreads thats out of my control

for ppl who are voting me, who would my partners be? don't really see anything ATM, feels like everyone just doesnt like my opinions

Nuxl who would u vote here and why do u think m2h is towny
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random zuko/af mention but exclusion of bluedoom/alice

this is a follow up anti spew attempt
 
sidebar reading that again I also think if hal was on his team realiti would have gone much harder on antispew directly towards him in the moment rather than questioning people voting him (zuko/bluedoom/a fairy), so it’s even more highly his team is just weaker

^ i think this group has at least 1 he’s setting up, and there’s a lot of overlap atm lol
 
me
skipper ehmcee
des hal

Find 1 town in:
[af jalmont ck bluedoom ag ne alice]

(id currently order this approxmately NE > bluedoom > AG > CK > Alice > a fairy > jalmont)

with due consideration that i haven’t been thinking about bluedoom/alice/ck by themselves very much

lechen

dbd
zuko
 
Alice Kazumi said:
I'm fine with this so far
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realiti said:
do you actually scumread me or just hopping on bc its a wagon? feel like theres a lot of voter apathy atm
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Alice Kazumi said:
I think you are have decent odds of being scum honestly, there is a solid case on you and I don't have particularly strong scumreads so I'm fine with this. If I find a better choice I will change.
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this is an incredibly meek interaction if these two are partners where Alice is the 6th vote on realiti

Like there’s no slam dunk about pushing realiti off the wagon

if i were scum bussing realiti id want to respond how a fairy responded more tbh
 
Alice Kazumi said:
Tommy's post 2041 after interacting with Jalmont (1058) about the later reason's for neon vote is scummy. He basically had the same reasoning than him but called him scummy for saying it first?

I haven't fully caught up with some posts because of going back and forth but I don't feel like your defense so far makes me not vote.

Thechickening post nº 2242 might have done more in your defense than you by randomly voting you without prior mention of you. That is without apparently fully catching up so I'm honestly confused. :row:
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eh

This is the only hmm fakable part of the interaction between Alice and realiti IMO but it’s still kinda like.. not slam dunky lol

but then realiti just doesn’t even tag or respond to Alices quotes directly after + alice straight up ignores realiti after, it’s like that you’d think alice was scum and realiti is town
 
this one he’s just mostly filler up until eod with like a page and a half worth of posts and a stupid tunnel on ck

the other game he was asking questions and giving takes about reads constantly, and still got wagoned out as town d1
 
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