NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

ok well i was lying a bit there's the obvious lechen unpair but i feel confident in thinking nobody would go to the bigvivor server just to bus their partner.
bluedoom said:
Look man I'm with you but let's admit that voting no vote d1 is not a real stand, might as well not vote atp. Hopefully you change this part of your meta in future games.
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do yall see anything in this? gut feel is its not important, but this is their first interaction with jalmont like, all game i think
 
yes, mafia is going to kill you last, because you are manipulable and don't keep up with what is happening in the thread. it will be very easy for them at a point where we cannot afford to misvote, to vote incorrectly.

the gun person is not going to get me, des, because i am getting voted today.
 
Nuxl said:
Do you mind showing your work a bit with this?
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I can do this easier than you because I have looked at my role pm and it says vanilla town.

We are currently 10 players: 7 vs 3

No one has claimed the gun so CK had it.

I believe it was told in public to shoot chicken, no way mafia made them the kill carrier.

This means mafia has the gun.

So 7-3 turns into 5-3 if we fail

If we fail again and mafia shoots the gun we turn into a 2-3

If we hit we turn into a 3-2

We have 1 miss only.


Nuxl -> Extremely towny vibes, no counterclaim to pr. TOWN

Nightemerald -> I've read like it 3 times and I still don't find it logic to bus realiti there. There is a minimum chance but not worth considering in this scenario. TOWN

Apricity -> Extremely towny vibes, revigorated the thread on entrance, bus if mafia on entrance, same as above not completely cleared but not worth considering in this scenario. TOWN

Ehmcee -> 1/15 chance, not worth considering in this sceneario. TOWN.

des -> So everyone in the thread, me included, townreads her at the start. Then suddenly AG and the POE slots start scumreading her or bringing the posibility of her being scum when more people start getting cleared. It doesn't make sense when she was already a deepwolf if mafiaAm I supposed to believe she is scum? TOWN

Alice -> I saw my role pm. TOWN


This leaves us with A fairy, Jalmont, Lechen and Bluedoom, a reasonable enough POE considering their early game in the first 3, some interactions with scum slots or each other and in the case of the later because of the lack of activity later in the game and can't figure out why would he be town other than this. That is not strong enough so I'd say he is still in POE.


Only time I'm actually thinking again is if I wake up this weekend and see something like a wagon on Nightemerald made by apricity, ehmcee, des and lechen while bluedoom and night emerald vote jalmont.
 
a fairy said:
not claiming gun and letting us know maf has it clears up maf to use the gun to shoot someone outside of the poe fwiw
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Why would they shoot someone in the POE? :blobthinking:

I'm pretty sure any town actively trying to solve saw Celever post and connected the dots. Also mafia likely knows they have the gun, what do you mean with this post.
 
Alice Kazumi said:
I can do this easier than you because I have looked at my role pm and it says vanilla town.

We are currently 10 players: 7 vs 3

No one has claimed the gun so CK had it.

I believe it was told in public to shoot chicken, no way mafia made them the kill carrier.

This means mafia has the gun.

So 7-3 turns into 5-3 if we fail

If we fail again and mafia shoots the gun we turn into a 2-3

If we hit we turn into a 3-2

We have 1 miss only.


Nuxl -> Extremely towny vibes, no counterclaim to pr. TOWN

Nightemerald -> I've read like it 3 times and I still don't find it logic to bus realiti there. There is a minimum chance but not worth considering in this scenario. TOWN

Apricity -> Extremely towny vibes, revigorated the thread on entrance, bus if mafia on entrance, same as above not completely cleared but not worth considering in this scenario. TOWN

Ehmcee -> 1/15 chance, not worth considering in this sceneario. TOWN.

des -> So everyone in the thread, me included, townreads her at the start. Then suddenly AG and the POE slots start scumreading her or bringing the posibility of her being scum when more people start getting cleared. It doesn't make sense when she was already a deepwolf if mafiaAm I supposed to believe she is scum? TOWN

Alice -> I saw my role pm. TOWN


This leaves us with A fairy, Jalmont, Lechen and Bluedoom, a reasonable enough POE considering their early game in the first 3, some interactions with scum slots or each other and in the case of the later because of the lack of activity later in the game and can't figure out why would he be town other than this. That is not strong enough so I'd say he is still in POE.


Only time I'm actually thinking again is if I wake up this weekend and see something like a wagon on Nightemerald made by apricity, ehmcee, des and lechen while bluedoom and night emerald vote jalmont.
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This is basically what you get when you try to solve from this perspective considering all clears and what happened later.
 
USER1 claims the gun, says they shot chickening. we thank them, some read them more towny, others do the percentage math.
eod arrives, we all agree on USER2 as being the target of the gun as someone not being voted out but in the POE strongly
USER3 dies to the gun, and was townlock'd or otherwise widely townread

all of the sudden, USER1 looks super suspicious, because if they shot, then gun should've moved onto the next town member, who we're supposed to believe shot USER3, the widely read town member?

if USER1 never claims, then we assume that CK was the gunshot, and based on what celever said, we know maf has gun now. so we know that the gun is being shot into the safe/likely town slots, and USER1 doesn't become super suspicious.

assuming that a safe/likely town slot gets gunned tomorrow (which we have to given nobody claimed), USER1 claiming they shot chickening is suddenly super suspicious because how did it go from them successfully shooting, town or not, to a member of the mafia (which it would almost certainly have to be if they're going against the town consensus of shooting USER2 in the poe)
 
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