NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

[Blazade]

Vizh I think what you have to understand is that des’s motivation in mafia is to not get voted out, not necessarily help town win. You saw that a lot last game bc she constantly pressured for reads but specifically on her. So I makes sense she would slip to a Townlean just so that she doesn’t get voted even if she’s not in danger

This is the problem with NOC and why I hate it. This is the converged town/scum meta of any experienced player and the default meta of any deadbeat idler. People don't give a damn, they just want to live cause it increases their odds of winning and they spew word vomit so they can do so.

 

[Tommy]

Tommy, I would say that you've describes me perfectly. I'm motivated when I'm here but I'm legitimately busy right now. It's NAI, getting started with this teaching job is affecting me over the next couple days and things should settle.

There's also an element where in the last NOC I argued my (largely correct) opinions till I was blue in the face and got constantly ignored, right down to people not reading anything I said and quickhammering a town loss the last deadline without any discussion. That was a frustrating experience. I'm adjusting by picking my battles and being less argumentative.

I'm taking a break from my schedule to have a clean hour before dl. I'm going to use it to look into people that have come up in discussion that I haven't played as much NOC with like DBD, and see if I can land on a vote at the end.

Sunny, I am a known overexplainer and if I had more of an explanation beyond tone for the reads I had then you would have it, too.

Ok, my read on you is subject to change so will see how you play eod, can’t see you being a vote option today anyways as of now

 

[Tommy]

The vc makes me not want to vote as all, in a self-thing pov and not a jalmont-style pov

What do you mean self-thing pov?

 

[a fairy]

This is the problem with NOC and why I hate it. This is the converged town/scum meta of any experienced player and the default meta of any deadbeat idler. People don't give a damn, they just want to live cause it increases their odds of winning and they spew word vomit so they can do so.

I have historically accepted being voted as town

 

[StupidFlandrs48]

Votecount 1.6: It's Still Mafia Monday!
Dead by Daylight (4): Mekkah, Lechen, des121, Aura Guardian
Vizh (2): AligningStar, skippergamez
pulsar512b (2): NightEmerald, Blazade
NightEmerald (2): bluedoom, Duskfall98
CrreamyKitty (1): Dead by Daylight
des121 (1): Vizh
Aura Guardian (1): HydrogenHydreigon
HydrogenHydreigon (1): Lechen
Duskfall98 (1): CrreamyKitty
AligningStar (1): charlieum

Not Voting (3): a fairy, sunny004, pulsar512b

Hammer will be called at 10 votes.

Deadline is in 50 minutes. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.

 

[a fairy]

What do you mean self-thing pov?

Like I kinda wanna leave my vote empty but don’t want to advocate for no-vote as a general concept

 

[Tommy]

i don’t get your reasoning for applying it to me though, like since i was one of the top wagons why would you expect me to ‘struggle to care’, like surely the vibe should be invested in not dying d2

So what is the reason then?

 

[charlieum]

The vc makes me not want to vote as all, in a self-thing pov and not a jalmont-style pov

Can you explain what this means please?

 

[a fairy]

Can you explain what this means please?

1056

 

[Vizh]

Unvote
Vote NightEmerald

 

[a fairy]

Votecount 1.6: It's Still Mafia Monday!
Dead by Daylight (4): Mekkah, Lechen, des121, Aura Guardian
Vizh (2): AligningStar, skippergamez
pulsar512b (2): NightEmerald, Blazade
NightEmerald (2): bluedoom, Duskfall98
CrreamyKitty (1): Dead by Daylight
des121 (1): Vizh
Aura Guardian (1): HydrogenHydreigon
HydrogenHydreigon (1): Lechen
Duskfall98 (1): CrreamyKitty
AligningStar (1): charlieum

Not Voting (3): a fairy, sunny004, pulsar512b

Hammer will be called at 10 votes.

Deadline is in 50 minutes. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.

Like look at this vc and genuinely say “yeah this is good”

 

[NightEmerald]

So what is the reason then?

i scheduled yesterday to be my main day to engage w the thread, today was meant to be dedicated to space war 3 and the ps game but space war is quiet

 

[Tommy]

This is the problem with NOC and why I hate it. This is the converged town/scum meta of any experienced player and the default meta of any deadbeat idler. People don't give a damn, they just want to live cause it increases their odds of winning and they spew word vomit so they can do so.

This is like very much painting everyone with one brush no?

Experiences players don’t teach a point of where they have one meta ftr, they reach a point where their scum meta finds it hard to follow their town meta because they help town too much to mimic it as mafia without losing

 

[Blazade]

Oh, that's why I don't remember anything about DBD in this game, there's literally nothing there to talk about

 

[Tommy]

Like I kinda wanna leave my vote empty but don’t want to advocate for no-vote as a general concept

Why leave your vote empty?

 

[sunny004]

Hello all I need to catch up from my last post but if you have any Qs for me lmk

 

[NightEmerald]

i shouldnt have been so rigid wrt engagement in retrospect but thats a problem for future me

 

[charlieum]

1056

tbh I would rather you not make the best play for self here because nobody else has anything to read you off of atm.

If you were gonna vote which way would you go?

 

[Vizh]

Oh, that's why I don't remember anything about DBD in this game, there's literally nothing there to talk about

This is part of why I’m opposed to a DBD vote btw, it feels significantly more likely to get us back to square 1

 

[Tommy]

The dbd wagon is not very towny either

 

[AligningStar]

You hate to see it. (I get that there are time constraints but ISO reads almost always suck imo.)

You say you still want to vote Vizh, has anything changed since your initial suspicion like over a day ago?

Oh i missunderstood. I did read through thread, for the reads they are iso. For the current vizh, they barely have insights and 90% of their new iso is questioning and low insight.

 

[charlieum]

Would still prefer Aligning here ftr, their recent posts haven't changed my opinion at all and they've kinda ghosted since they fell out of the conversation.

 

[charlieum]

lmao timing.

 

[AligningStar]

Oh i missunderstood. I did read through thread, for the reads they are iso. For the current vizh, they barely have insights and 90% of their new iso is questioning and low insight.

they just follow what other people say and agree on them. They have some reads by themslves such as sunny town but its very minimal

 

[AligningStar]

Would still prefer Aligning here ftr, their recent posts haven't changed my opinion at all and they've kinda ghosted since they fell out of the conversation.

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