NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Votecount 2.2: Blastoise Boogaloo
NightEmerald (2): charlieum, bluedoom
CrreamyKitty (1): CrreamyKitty, Lechen
Dead by Daylight (1): Lechen
pulsar512b (1): Vizh
des121 (1): Dead by Daylight

Not Voting (10): Aura Guardian, HydrogenHydreigon, Mekkah, a fairy, skippergamez, des121, pulsar512b, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 42:04. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
 
Dead by Daylight said:
i want to vote the ASS wagon first, starting with Vizh or NE. give me a reason why I should vote the other over you Vizh
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Assuming your only 2 options are us 2 (they shouldn't be), and discarding your previous vote (we shouldn't), I honestly don't know if I believe NE's claim that they simply forgot which of DBD and Lechen they scumread

I genuinely do not think we should vote NE this phase though, I think their progression onto ASS makes sense

Why did you vote charlie before swapping to des?
 
Re: Charlie's request for my take on last hour EoD D1:

Seriously, 10.5 pages of EoD?
P42 #1033 giving weird vibes from Duskfall - wait, he's clear. Got to the 2nd half of his post, and it's fine.
P42 in general: getting bad vibes from NE
P43: Vizh voting NE after P42 quite understandable.
P44: Lots of NE is less bad of a vote sentiments.
P45: A lot of needing to remind people about the rules. No Mafia Daytalk, High Power.
P46: No real vibes? CK had some weird stuff about not wanting to tie it, when it was at DBD 4 / NE 3. Went over it again and changed from no vibes to the vibes of an absence around the DBD -> AS vote, but some minor vibes around the maybe switch to NE.
P47: grain of salt from me and hindsight, but AligningStar is looking like I felt in Low Power.
P48: Town vibes from Mekkah. Not much else. Just continuing from other pages.
P49: Don't like CK's posting here. Especially after someone mentioned early in the EoD that mafia would try to force claims to get info.
P50: Lots of doubt about AligningStar, both claim and the vote. Not going into the hindsight here.
P51: Don't like CK's posting here. Charlie looking better.
P52: No vibes until the vote completes.

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And getting some weird vibes from what HH and sunny brought up re: the vig claim. I want to follow up on the Charlie/CK claim query/claim, but later. After P46, I think Charlie and NE are paired.

Vote NightEmerald

CK being unCC'ed is too important to check like that and Charlie started looking better at the end If NightEmerald is guilty, we can chain into checking/voting Charlie and then CK.

I'll fight some for this order, but it's not a hill I'll die on.
 
sunny004 said:
But des actually keyed me into something here thanks des. CrreamyKitty clarify something for me. You say you were sheeped onto the aligning vote. But if we look below you voted aligning before almost all of these supposed sheep. Why the contradiction?

And don't say it was because of the tommy yell because you yourself tried to CFD a claim out of Vizh
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Vizh said:
Can we get votes off of DBD and onto either NE or Aligning
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CrreamyKitty said:
Alright king we ball out here
Vote Aligningstars
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Vizh said:
Vote AligningStar
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des121 said:
##unvote
##vote AligningStar
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Duskfall98 said:
charlieum was null
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des121 said:
? Bc vish said to get off dbd
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HydrogenHydreigon said:
guys the cognitive dissonance is insane for me rn just based off of 1298-1302 posts.

- charlie's 1298 seems extremely tmi and coordinated with ck's 1301 vig claim. 1302 is also weird bc i think charlie was around when ck was going hard on tommy so why was it a surprise? like maybe its just me but ck vigging tommy was not surprising at all (bad, maybe, but not surprising) given his read on tommy d1
however, what are the implications of this?
- if ck/charlie are s/s and tommy was the mafia kill then what of blazade's death? 3p or an actual town vig, surely they have the foresight to like see. hey. two deaths maybe there is a town vig and we could get cc'd. but then again what town vig shoots blazade. god idk bc up until this point i was leaning town on charlie and was prepared to be a ck defender, and i kind of stil am bc i think if you read his past posts the progression on tommy makes sense!! charlie has townie progression making sense posts too! i dont know at this point i think they're becoming scummier for md
- ck mentioned scum!charlie possibly having a track result on him resulting in tmi which is an option i hadnt thought of before
- option three is im reading too much into this and ck is fully just town vig and mafia shot blazade which is not unreasaonble ig but doesnt address the tmi concerns i had

god that was a lot of stream-of-thought and word vomit. tldr im fully conflicted over my ck/charlie reads rn
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I actually don't hate this theory, I thought the CK vig claim was weird at best. And someone (probably Tommy) had mentioned that scum's goal is to info gather as soon as possible and guess who claimed EoD, AS.
 
Aura Guardian said:
After P46, I think Charlie and NE are paired.

Vote NightEmerald

CK being unCC'ed is too important to check like that and Charlie started looking better at the end If NightEmerald is guilty, we can chain into checking/voting Charlie and then CK.
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1. What gives you that impression?

2. Does translating the last paragraph to
"Nobody else claiming vig means we shouldn't vote CK, and charlie looks more scum if NE is scum, which means we may need to vote CK later"
 
Vizh said:
Can somebody give me the NE case, I feel as though I am missing something
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His progression from dbd-->pulsar isn't consistent, not very active, dbd/pulsar don't feel like solvey votes at the time he suggested it given that pulsar was barely active and dbd wasn't much better. Also a metaread but he isn't as solvey as I know him to be.

However I will admit that I haven't reread the eod to know how his vote ended up on AS
 
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