NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

NightEmerald said:
Alright it's time to end the lowposter allegations

Preliminary thoughts

Right now, I think the thread is way too focused on finding scum vs finding town, like i saw the "at least one scum in this pool of 5 people" and I do not think we have that kind of time, unless, cop gets good targets

I'm first gonna reread today (d2) stuff while still liveposting, so that I make my thought process loud and clear.
I'll then move onto analyzing d1 pre-aligning, because I remember shit tons of resistance and that tends to indicate active scum trying to get wagons off certain people
Lastly, I'll do individual slot analysis if my movivation burst lasts that long

If anyone has any pressing questions before i start reading d2 lmk
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I just have a question when u get to my readlist I just want to know your thoughts is that ok?
 
charlieum said:
As in like, as a general trend between D1 and D2? Since there's no daytalk.

I feel like basically everyone has shifted in loudness to some degree except for the guys who aren't posting at all and I'd kind of expect it with less players to bounce off of and more posts to work with.
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Coached at night, I can very much imagine a scum partner telling skip to tone down some of their posting because it ended up with them being a top wagon for a lot of yesterday
 
CrreamyKitty said:
I vigged tommy, this is a HARDCLAIM

I am latios.

My base ability is draco meteor, which lets me kill (vig) someone but I lose 2 sp.atk and can’t use the vig again until I get back to 0 sp.atk.

My mega ability is calm mind, which boosts my sp.atk by one. At 0 sp.atk I can use draco meter, and at 2 sp.atk it becomes strongwilled.
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what's the proc condition of your mega ability
 
Going thru hyhy's posts now
HydrogenHydreigon said:
thoughts on dbd:
i came into today with a rather negative opinion on his slot and nothing has made me change that. hes honestly rly giving disengaged mafia. 1331 would have been good if he followed it up with good posting but nope, its just all super surface level and doesnt seem to be genuinely solvy. what i esp dont like is his "vote analysis" post 1422 where he calls out ne/vizh and then uses that as an excuse to make no content for the rest of the day. his only substantive post after that being 1801 "vote NE i need answers man" fully indicates to me he seems to be using that post as an indirect (direct? idk how to describe) excuse to not be a productive member of town.
also again the not genuinely solvy point. dbd doesn't explain anything. why did he randomly vote charlie? why does he want to start with voting vizh and ne on the aligning wagon?? when he says "give me a reason why I should vote the other over you" what is he looking for?? what makes people more towny and lessy towny to him?? it just seems so fake solvy

dbd is fully a vote consideration for me today
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- I agree with this bolded part especially. DBD's votes and analysis seem to be quite scattered and again wrt D1 interaction being very important as per bluedoom he very much coasted through. I don't like this slot as of this post but maybe the later stuff will make me change my mind.
HydrogenHydreigon said:
thoughts on bluedoom:
i like 1420. the logic is logicing and the progression makes sense
i have the read of bluedooms posts and they seem rly tunnely to me, but i dont think exactly horrible? he seems to rly want to vote in the inactive slots (see 1580 or his reads in general) which is an acceptable perspective ig. with that being said i found it interesting he isn't including dbd in that group- his reasoning is that dbd claimed blocked (1580) which. im not a mechanical solver so i have bias here. but i dont think thats exactly sufficient

overall i think he comes off very mixed to me. i dont think hes my top vote but i wouldnt defend him either
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- wrt DBD blocked and voting. I think from a mech perspective we kinda have three possible outcomes here. Either: DBD is town and truly blocked / DBD is scum and truly blocked (likely town RB in this case unless scum is smoking some dank shit) / DBD is scum and is lying about being blocked. (I don't think town DBD would fake a RB). So I agree that the RB isn't a get out of elim free card.
HydrogenHydreigon said:
holy ne really has not posted at all this phase huh.
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- yea this really isn't great either
Lechen said:
he played the exact same way last game where he was scum, which imo is more important then the wagonomics and the mix up (which imo is NAI)
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- can you elaborate on this? scum NE last game was different because he basically lucked into a bus on realti and that p much cleared him until endgame. And that hasn't happened yet here
 
I guess I just need to reread but I am not trying to be a super NE defender here; I just feel like I am missing the reasonings for the wagons on him today in particular over other players besides what mekkah said earlier wrt inactivity + vibes. Can someone explain that to me
 
des121 said:
Did u see my reads and post about charlie etc
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I think I skimmed over it but can you link it again and I will respond
charlieum said:
Sunny what is your priority for reading people out of curiosity? Seeing a small wall about a mixed (I think?) read on non-wagon & probably asleep HH this close to deadline's kinda weird.
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Priority in terms of what? Like what order I read stuff? I was doing it chronologically as per below but if you want me to focus on any particular interaction I can do so
sunny004 said:
Hello everyone I am going to read posts since my big wallpost while I have time. Need to run errands today before winter storm tonight. But I will be around at EOD too
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des121 said:
Why is charlie scummy?

I feel like he just is because of the tmi post as well as he didn't really give me enough information about him being on town side for me.
Pulsar is scummy because she wasn't active for a long time and didn't vote yet.
I don't think ne is scummy bc of good reasons in his posts.
Dbd isn't scummy to me I meant on day 2 but I would need more information from him
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sunny004
 
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