NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Townlean+:
a fairy - soft claimed, townish role confirmed (through my night results). that said she was very hands off d1 iirc and I remember not particularly liking her posts. she also pushes hard on lhf like des and pulsar (though in the case of pulsar EoD2 all the scrutiny was deserved). I value my mech knowledge a little higher than my social reads though hence townlean.

Hyhy - still reads like he's genuinely trying, though obviously I feel like his reads on me are off. If he doesn't have a satisfying answer to my responses to him I might bump him down but I still wouldn't vote him off next day.

CK - the same mech knowledge still holds: there's no way we don't have a vig in role madness, there was no counterclaim. but the longer mafia leaves him alive the more sus he becomes. I disagree with some of his evaluations but I don't get particularly bad vibes.

Vizh - I'm biased because he's argued in my favor a couple of times already but I find their logic solid - like klook at 2917, that just makes sense.

Light townlean:
skipper, charlie, sunny: I've been trying to read up on/ISO these people several times but a lot of their posts are NAI, refer back to much earlier discussions (making it even more tedious to read further back when low on time). I am a little surprised to see so many people rank sunny so high given that his posts don't stand out to me so much (positively or negatively) but like I said earlier I do think his vibes earlygame were fine. Maybe I'll be able to reach a better conclusion once I make my lil chart of reads.

Null:

Wisp - I might've put pulsar here as slightly scummy but I liked Wisp's entrance so far and don't envy the amount of work they have to do to catch up. des's voting of that slot makes me think this slot might actually be town, but there's like 5 scum in this game and they gotta be somewhere.

Scummish:

NightEmerald - this hasn't changed much from my previous look and I'll need to look again cause I saw a couple people re-evaluate their opinions on him in a more positive way, and the last couple posts strike me as no worse than the people I have in light townlean

Scummy:

des - absolutely the GOAT for liking posts though
DBD - obviously do not like his push on me, and I think the logic is inherently flawed and I've pointed out before so I won't repeat myself. there were some posts today that I thought were more productive but that's something I can say for almost the entire game at this point
 
Yes but can you give more information as to how your roleblocker is different than bluedooms and what your mega evolution is
Base Abilities

Fake Out: On Night 1 only, target another player to make them flinch; they will be unable to use their abilities that night.

Mega Abilities

Mega Fake Out: This ability is the same as the standard Fake Out, except it can be used on two consecutive nights after Mega evolving, and each target will be unable to use their abilities for the following night as well.
 
a fairy des121 CrreamyKitty Mekkah Aura Guardian charlieum Dead by Daylight NightEmerald marlyne HydrogenHydreigon Vizh sunny004 skippergamez

Reminder that as part of usual Circus NOC rules, copy/pasting role PMs is banned. This includes pretending to break this rule with a fake role, and both are treated identically. As this rule was not explicitly in this game’s game thread OP, des will not be modkilled. However, anyone who after this host reminder either pastes their role PM or pretends to paste it will be modkilled.”
(this announcement has been brought to you by my strangely bear-shaped lawyer, Celever)
 
Base Abilities

Fake Out: On Night 1 only, target another player to make them flinch; they will be unable to use their abilities that night.

Mega Abilities

Mega Fake Out: This ability is the same as the standard Fake Out, except it can be used on two consecutive nights after Mega evolving, and each target will be unable to use their abilities for the following night as well.
1) No copy pasting rolepms

2) There’s no way flandrs made your mega ability “mega fake out” and if so he was smoking something making this setup and it’s his fault if you are town.

Vote Des
 
I reread that bit and I think you're either not interpreting this correctly or not presenting it correctly.

Someone said "the game/thread state is bad" (I don't remember who but I'll find it if someone needs me to)
I asked them to clarify what they meant
They said "nobody is trying to push for a change, which means top wagon is likely town (since mafia would try change it)"
Then, the top wagon was changed,
and I tried to point out how according to that person's logic, that could mean this was mafia changing the wagon. The way I phrased that wasn't especially clear though, this is what I wrote (again 1187, p48)

"So earlier I had a discussion with I think skipper about how we should feel bad about the current gamestate because mafia wasn't pushing to change it. And now there is a sudden push to change it and everyone is okay with that?"
Yeah that definitely wasn’t very clear, I thought you were airing your personal dislikes of the shift
 
I will point out that until you brought this up most people's reads on me were null/mild town. If me/DBD are scum partners it is not in our best interest for him to draw a bunch of attention onto me to change that. Of course if we felt that he is likely to get voted out at some point it would be to our benefit the day after this one, but it would be quite a gambit.
i think this could go both ways. if you/dbd are s/s and you were consistently being townread, but dbd had sus on him, i can see it completely as a distancing attempt given dbd is likely to get voted over you. this post does not convince me to wholly stop sring you
 
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