NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Hydro assuming des flips scum, who do you think should be next?
at the moment i am:
not going to consider af
not going to consider ck until late game-ish
probably not going to consider ag but less than the others
above is for mechnical reasons

i have only reevaluated my reads on dbd on mekkah, and still think i will probably vote dbd but ofc i wilread the others before anything conclusive
 
How is AG out of the poe mechanically?
not 100% but enough to put off voting him imo, there were shenanigans involving him using his role to prove af's super towny one with mekkah which pmuch softcleared af and its p much universally agreed that mafia probably doesnt do that
(with that being said postwise his posts are not my favorite but i have to admit he is not the best options given afroementioned)
 
Sorry a new episode came on and I’m invested

should i be like. trying to look for potential des scummates off interaction? instead of reading ppls posts in isolation
I tried it and it only really led me to a des/DBD pair

Arguably skipper but they definitely weren’t the only one excusing des’ behavior off of meta, just one of the more memorable ones

I am reading a little into NE’s posting today
des is literally wasting time
and this feels potentially trying to shut des up before a spew(?)
 
Sunny's posts have been pretty self-conscious recently (2340 and some posts today about how they look in bluedoom flip) that I don't think I remember from his early posts? It's a bit weird.
Just first off it's because I feel responsible in part for the BD misvote. My read on him was off :psysad:

AF - the green check by ag complicates matters but I can see in townmeta
- Oh you were just asking about this line. I think it complicates matters insofar as I think it presents three outcomes
1) AG and fairy are both town and this is a true greencheck (best timeline)
2) AG is scum, fairy is not, and AG is trying to get towncred
3) AG and fairy are scumbuddies

So it complicates matters by presenting mech info + tying fairy to AG as opposed to just a fairy read in a vacuum,
 
rereading skip:
i think his initial posting is bad leaning mid. the vizh vote reads as genuine to me. skip/des posts in the 500s don't read as partnered to me. ok skips d1 is not bad honestly?? i like 585 it reads like hes actually trying to make reads. and even if we dont agree i can see that hes trying to show his thought process. and then aforementioned nonpartnered vibes only make me feel better. like yes he's been defend des but it doesnt read as partnered to me. ok skip has a dropoff in content which i dont like his d1 makes up half his posts but beyond that i like how he vocied his thoughts on ck, i like 1869, skip please start posting again youre improving a lot dont dropoff now, yeah a skip vote isnt in the books for me
 
rereading vizh:
omg 17 pages thats kinda intimidating i will try my best. early on is lots of sunny defending and question asking. honestly his d1 is unremarkable at best nothing rly pings me. i kind of do like 1069 the reasoning seems town-motivated. ok im looking more closely now bc i am really just getting its a lot of question asking. 1740/1828 are waffly af statements on bd. more questions. 1895 is cool but would like explanation. OKAY 1917 READSLIST!! okay redemption bc i like it. maybe the questions thing and occasional reads are jsut playstyle. im convincing myself to feel better about vizh
 
rereading charlie (incomplete):
nothing is pinging me at all really. i like 908/911 ig but boy this is more "i cant really think of stuff" than vizh's d1. im really not getting anything i a just spent like 20 minutes only reading his d1 im moving on. i still think the vig assumption early d2 is kind of weird but im over the conspiratorial hat i put on. my eyes are glazing over now i think im just tired of this. sorry im going to comeback later and try to come up with something that's not "null"
 
curious what your thoughts on charlie are now that BD has flipped green

it's 2 AM so i'll be quick:
AG's posts seem to be coming from a solving perspective, which i like. if i'm not interpreting this wrongly i see that AF, AG, and mekkah have cleared the former 2 to some extent?? i don't see a motivation for scum!AG to do so, especially since they have claimed their role to be role thief (which i would assume is likelier to be a scum role)

tldr AG is fine but i will reread in the morning i dont trust my 2 AM judgement
When I re-read the post you were quoting, I was wondering what I'd meant. Then I followed that line back a ways.

It was from what I perceived to be a scumslip from a previous game involving thechickening/zuko. I said that if BD wasn't town, we should take a long look at charlie. BD flipped town, so there's nothing left there, except looking at him on his own merits.

Just took a glance at some of what SB/charlie's been saying. I'm getting not-good vibes from him. Not sure how to phrase it. Not a full scumlean right now, but definitely not any form of townlean.
 
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