NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

charlieum said:
holy shit that flip lol

i can confirm NE's role is real btw
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Maybe I missed this, but how can you confirm this?
Aura Guardian said:
So at a fairy/Mekkah's request, I tested NE's claim. Would Tyranitar please stand up?
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Why? Didn't you just inspect / fail to steal their mega? I'm not following why you want them to say themselves when you already have that info.
charlieum said:
If I am reading AF's flip right they could've had 3 people primed and if they were all town and AF detonated last night the game would be 4v4 rn, aka mafia victory.

But I didn't mega, so they presumably had at least one mafia primed.
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Why? If I'm reading your role right, you only mega when we are in MYLO. But fairy has to actually detonate her arso to enter MYLO, so I don't see how you would have mega'ed even if she had primed 3 town.
Vizh said:
CK
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oh duh
 
Vizh said:
sunny what are your ideal wagons today?
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Gonna combine this with a general reads post imminently. DBD and/or pulsar are good slots. Would need to hear some explaining from charlie re: what's up with the voteblocker on CK twice but I would consider him within my personal PoE as well. I am also not a big fan of skipper for similar reasons to hydro but would need to iso before I have anything more substantive than that
 
ag - this slot is gonna be mech solved I think. I don't have that much to say w/r/t AG's alignment, it's been pretty null to me over this game
jalmont - DBD was probably my top scumread after des. I will give jalmont a chance but would be fine voting this slot based off of DBD's actions.
mekkah - need to iso him more tbh; nothing definitive at this time
ck - Un CC'ed vig with a flipped neutral means this is almost certainly town imo.
skip - Behavior has been strange recently
vizh - His solving behavior has been towny to me thus far and little has striked me as explicitly scummy outside of the D1 scrutiny.
charlie - Idk what it is but something seems off here. But last time I thought something was off BD got misvoted. So I will admit my confidence isn't there for this slot.
marlyne - This slot is similar to DBD's reasoning but magnified; I felt that pulsar was even more absent than DBD and is therefore less alignment indicative. Would be fine solving this slot more based off of marlyne.
sunny - Obviously town
ne - I am open to thoughts about this slot being scum but tbh I have yet to hear a cohesive reason why excluding meta reasons; granted, one of the primary pushers was bluedoom (RIP) based on meta.

My to-do list is to ISO charlie and skip and then tabulate all votes D2 onward to see if there is a pattern
 
Does anyone have like a tldr because uhhh
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executive decision: fuck that.
 
Ok after Isoing charlie my general vibe in a vacuum is actually pretty null. I think he is active and at least acting like he wants to solve, which is towny, but vote negator seems like a scummy role + a couple of his interactions have seemed a little interesting to me. The primary one I focused on was this, and it's actually going to make me walk back and reevaluate my NE read above:
NightEmerald said:
Im gonna claim now and will be back later tonight,

Host Info: Gengar is in the game
Response: no shit its like one of the most popular megas

Mega Ability:
lied about not being able to talk about it, realized its more of a detriment than anything to keep secret

I automatically backed up the first protective role to die, so now I have aligning’s reflection ONLY.
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charlieum said:
I may have put it on NE to check his claim and Flandrs decided he hates you?

mb!
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charlieum said:
I mean yeah my conclusions are DBD and Pulsar slots are maf and NE is town for how he shoved the vote.
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My working theory here is that charlie and NE may be paired based on this interaction. Either NE did indeed copy aligning's redirection and this interaction is true or the redirection is a pretense for just vote negating CK again. Afaik this was the first time that charlie claimed (unless I just glaringly missed something here)
charlieum said:
holy shit that flip lol

i can confirm NE's role is real btw
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This post (which comes before CK's realization that he was vote negated) also indicates that either charlie is informed of the redirection when actions are resolved (which seems interesting for a passive redirector?) or it lends more credence to the false redirection theory.

I am also questioning NE's role because it seems like basic mech info that a scumteam would get anyway (excl. maybe Gengar, but by his own admission that one is pretty obvious) and very much doesn't fit the mold of "high power," but this latter fact is less alignment indicative after seeing des's horrid role.

So in short I am gonna re-iso NE. Preliminarily though I think flipping NE would give us insight into charlie's alignment so I could see some value there.
 
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