NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

JALMONT said:
he's saying his ability steals the mega ability, gets a 1x of it, then vanillas the target for 3x (blocking them from doing their action)

so you aren't concerned at all about NE dodging the thread often, lying about mega ability for no reason, and now AG is saying what he's claimed is different from the 1x he got?
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What do you mean by the last part? and yes I am but I think it’s less actively scummy than several other slots
 
JALMONT said:
man CK basically offered nothing all today how irritating. even less than NE lol

anyways, I guess I have to put this out here to get some convo going while I'm asleep but my mega ability does allow me in somehow access to a kill so read that as you will. I'm not really sure why DBD wasn't concerned about this at all as this was ringing alarm bells for me as soon as I subbed in but I'm probably missing something obvious or misreading my role PM. also I actually do believe there is a world in which CK is really a vig...killing dusk was a really bad way to show it tho lol
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Hmm this is. Interesting. I’m reserving judgement until I have more information on the role for now anyway
 
JALMONT said:
gosh I mean AG's claim just really doesn't fit in the town team. we have

a Town mega cop (idk wtf that is btw cba to look up)
2x roleblocker

and then we have a role cop/vanillize that gets a 1x of mega ability. does that really fit together? I'm not so sure

it's very plausible that's mafia!ag role or even some kind of wolf checker that checked AF, got a wolf result and they were like woah we need to off AF when convenient. and they probably did once they realized one or two of them were burned. did anyone get a burn result?
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Nobody did, they’re hidden
 
JALMONT said:
stream of consciousness time

Marylene - only accused/voted des, sort of defended AG and pretty much hasn't said anything else. I mean the pulsar slot smelled bad to me from the start I think objectively I have to put them up in my scum list but it doesn't quite feel right. didn't vote day 1 x_X

vizh - does anyone else feel vizh has had a lot of thread presence but has really never said much of note? I feel like the question asking has been so much in the opposite direction, it's been tough to get real reads and opinions. but I do admit they have been committed to the game which I like

quick break here - gosh AG just has to be scum right like that ability is just so strong and given 2x town role blockers we know mafia has gotta have some stuff that goes absolutely crazy

I read one page on sunny and have decided they are town.

I can't believe no one expressed any doubt about the des vote yesterday like the play just made no sense from a scum perspective but I guess with no day talk I can see myself rationalizing scum des flailing and just going rogue

why would scum AG announce that af was town if they had a scum check? surely they wouldn't do that right? they would announce her as scum/3p and try and gain some credibility that way. hm. so then maybe NE got the info??

maybe CK is mafia then lol. let's mass claim

I wonder if Charlie/mekkah/sunny has a mafia in them

alight that;'s enough for now
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Based on JALMONT’s posting this seems like a fairly good post

Slightly pinged by the apparent awareness about pulsar but seemingly lacking previous information (ex: CK vig claim, NE claiming backup)
 
Vizh said:
What do you mean by the last part? and yes I am but I think it’s less actively scummy than several other slots
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ok never mind I just can't read AG got redirected to someone random (I'm assuming we don't know who?) who is not NE

so I guess NE really is some kind of backup. or maybe lied and had this role the whole time? probably not, more likely to be legit.
 
Vizh said:
Based on JALMONT’s posting this seems like a fairly good post

Slightly pinged by the apparent awareness about pulsar but seemingly lacking previous information (ex: CK vig claim, NE claiming backup)
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Huh? I knew both those things. I read through the thread but I didn't write a novel about it so I'm not going to remember ever fact and most of the time I cba to confirm
 
JALMONT said:
Huh? I knew both those things. I read through the thread but I didn't write a novel about it so I'm not going to remember ever fact and most of the time I cba to confirm
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If you’re trying to make a scum case, then you should probably confirm. 3070 seems to be unaware that CK claimed, and about NE you seem to be unsure of the particulars in a way that pinged me. Very possible it’s as a result of just skimming, but also possible it isn’t! My point was moreso that your post tracks from the pov of someone who just subbed in and is getting their information from thread interaction as opposed to reading back, and that being aware of pulsar’s D1 (and lacking references anybody else’s) is a little strange
 
Mekkah said:
ah yeah there we go. okay that is a lie but it's a lie that could benefit town if mafia doesn't know it so i don't think of it as a great scum indicator. my initial reaction to this (2591 if you wanna read back) was that he shouldnt have claimed at all.

i just think NE's other behavior felt more scummy. he did get better with time but first impressions last for me.
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Seconding this. I was contemplating digging deeper there, but for now I'm going with: Tyranitar, I was redirected to you. Why do you not identify yourself? You've posted since I first asked.
 
okay uh might have gotten too caught up in my other game
i am also wondering if there's a point in reading the previous 100+ pages now :l
i like JALMONT's posting thus far. makes me feel better about that slot in general.

Aura Guardian said:
Seconding this. I was contemplating digging deeper there, but for now I'm going with: Tyranitar, I was redirected to you. Why do you not identify yourself? You've posted since I first asked.
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god damn the tea is teaing
my gut still tells me that something is up with the whole role thief thing, especially with the fact that we have two! town roleblockers.
i think i need to reread that whole AG/AF/mekkah thing

i'm probably gonna take a second to consolidate all the claims we have so far and think it through

side note: i feel so out of my element that migraine really fucked me over
 
Vizh said:
If you’re trying to make a scum case, then you should probably confirm. 3070 seems to be unaware that CK claimed, and about NE you seem to be unsure of the particulars in a way that pinged me. Very possible it’s as a result of just skimming, but also possible it isn’t! My point was moreso that your post tracks from the pov of someone who just subbed in and is getting their information from thread interaction as opposed to reading back, and that being aware of pulsar’s D1 (and lacking references anybody else’s) is a little strange
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Okay well I don’t really know how to respond this. I personally would not interpret that post the way you would like how exactly does that show I didn’t know CK claimed vig lol

Anyways this is not really a useful convo so I’m moving on
 
marlyne said:
okay uh might have gotten too caught up in my other game
i am also wondering if there's a point in reading the previous 100+ pages now :l
i like JALMONT's posting thus far. makes me feel better about that slot in general.


god damn the tea is teaing
my gut still tells me that something is up with the whole role thief thing, especially with the fact that we have two! town roleblockers.
i think i need to reread that whole AG/AF/mekkah thing

i'm probably gonna take a second to consolidate all the claims we have so far and think it through

side note: i feel so out of my element that migraine really fucked me over
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Who is your 4 mafia rn just let it all out and don’t worry too much about it but obv the more you can say the better

I’m concerned that you’ve been in the thread but haven’t offered too much beyond a slight defense of AG and “des is probably mafia”
 
The weird thing about the AF kill is you would think the mafia would try to push a vote on them if they knew they were 3p. So why night kill? AF as a nk seems…really random and not ideal? Were they worried af might pull the trigger and kill them? Unlikely right with no burn notification. So bad luck (more like good luck for them)?

The issue I have is the kill justification is just strange - who was af beefing with I don’t remember. I vaguely pulsar?
 
JALMONT said:
Who is your 4 mafia rn just let it all out and don’t worry too much about it but obv the more you can say the better

I’m concerned that you’ve been in the thread but haven’t offered too much beyond a slight defense of AG and “des is probably mafia”
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this is not 4 but
1) AG - surely that role thief is NOT town-aligned??
2) sunny/vizh may be partnered? - quoting a snippet from my doc for my reasoning
"#133: “Scum has a vested interest in keeping us in the dark for as long as possible and voting a new player whose reads we cannot reliably rely (lol) on is the best way to do that” → strange karma, disagree that new player = unreliable reads. can possibly be taken to be scum!sunny trying to keep any newbie partners out of town’s crosshairs.
since des and aligning have flipped green, this would implicate vizh.
thus, i’m keeping an eye out for sunny and vizh interactions."
i might genuinely be going insane though
 
marlyne said:
this is not 4 but
1) AG - surely that role thief is NOT town-aligned??
2) sunny/vizh may be partnered? - quoting a snippet from my doc for my reasoning
"#133: “Scum has a vested interest in keeping us in the dark for as long as possible and voting a new player whose reads we cannot reliably rely (lol) on is the best way to do that” → strange karma, disagree that new player = unreliable reads. can possibly be taken to be scum!sunny trying to keep any newbie partners out of town’s crosshairs.
since des and aligning have flipped green, this would implicate vizh.
thus, i’m keeping an eye out for sunny and vizh interactions."
i might genuinely be going insane though
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des121 (7): Vizh, Dead by Daylight, a fairy, Aura Guardian, CrreamyKitty, HydrogenHydreigon, marlyne
i also had a thought that scum was on this vote pre-AF flip and i still believe 1-2 mafia was on this
 
marlyne said:
des121 (7): Vizh, Dead by Daylight, a fairy, Aura Guardian, CrreamyKitty, HydrogenHydreigon, marlyne
i also had a thought that scum was on this vote pre-AF flip and i still believe 1-2 mafia was on this
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this post just pinged me bc this is a strange thing to hone in on imo? its not like any discussions for another vote occurred, we were all just like "yeah we're probably voting des at the end of day lets discuss other stuff", the only real thing surrounding the vote was trying not to hammer it. if anything the other votecounts are probably better to look at
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
this post just pinged me bc this is a strange thing to hone in on imo? its not like any discussions for another vote occurred, we were all just like "yeah we're probably voting des at the end of day lets discuss other stuff", the only real thing surrounding the vote was trying not to hammer it. if anything the other votecounts are probably better to look at
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my thought was that mafia could have hopped on to blend in
 
i imght be being dumb but the logic isnt tracking for me,, there literally were no dissenters against the des vote the closest thing was me/af going "ehhhh remember the double announcer in that one game tho" which p much got glossed over bc no one was against a des vote, so mafia was already "blending in" per se. thus the vote rly doesnt. tell anything imo?
 
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