what the hell is this supposed to mean btw
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NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)
- Thread starter StupidFlandrs48
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im just ignoring him until he links a post and uses it to explain why someone's scum
your slot has a history of being voted by people who have flipped town
How does saying that CK visited somebody N2 not contradict CK?
I was baiting, CK did not go anywhere
lmao
what was the point of that zz
I've been getting not-great vibes from you, but that stunt is too... IDK. I'm not sure scum would be so bold as to try that.
im still here ftr
i dont want dodge allegations again
rereading ne:
D1 ne reads as super unpartnered to me in relation to the wagons tbh. What’s to cfd to pulsar (marlyne) doesn’t, wagons are vizh/skipper (neon) only cfds to aligning after not liking the claim, it’s super all over the place and I’m not getting partnered vibes
I randomly don’t like nes d2? The first 24 hrs felt so.. substanceless and then he votes dbd into bd into pulsar which is kind of giving tmi? 3432 is good tho I like that post
I think off an iso ne reads as mixed
D1 ne reads as super unpartnered to me in relation to the wagons tbh. What’s to cfd to pulsar (marlyne) doesn’t, wagons are vizh/skipper (neon) only cfds to aligning after not liking the claim, it’s super all over the place and I’m not getting partnered vibes
I randomly don’t like nes d2? The first 24 hrs felt so.. substanceless and then he votes dbd into bd into pulsar which is kind of giving tmi? 3432 is good tho I like that post
I think off an iso ne reads as mixed
Yah we got new abno events for a ton of old abnos
fair enough
idk how i can really respond to the d2 stuff being tmi, and it's super easy to make excuses in retrospect for why I voted them, so I'm not gonna bother. I feel like I had good reasons for not voting pulsar off the bat, wrt having flips + night info to analyze while pulsar remained with the same amt of info they did d1, though I don't remember the specifics of how my vote ended up going dbd->bd->pulsar
idk I guess it seems ike people are really serious about voting me off I mean at the very least you could let me hero shoot someone.
look I dunno what to say forget about whatever DBD did, I think it's pretty fair to say I've done a lot to try and progress the game, throw ideas out there and keep the game thread moving. if I was mafia I could easily shut my mouth and try to vote out skip or idk tunnel on CK I guess. let's be honest here the last two days were basically wasted and while I could give a pass for day 2, literally NO ONE even thought to c consider the alternative hmm well what if des is town, and tbqh it's put us in a poor position.
if our conclusion is, well we were wrong 2x but I'm sure the third time is the charm on the basis that I'm that confident in my d1 and d2 dbd reads then well idk what to say about that. in that case I sure hope Charlie is town
look I dunno what to say forget about whatever DBD did, I think it's pretty fair to say I've done a lot to try and progress the game, throw ideas out there and keep the game thread moving. if I was mafia I could easily shut my mouth and try to vote out skip or idk tunnel on CK I guess. let's be honest here the last two days were basically wasted and while I could give a pass for day 2, literally NO ONE even thought to c consider the alternative hmm well what if des is town, and tbqh it's put us in a poor position.
if our conclusion is, well we were wrong 2x but I'm sure the third time is the charm on the basis that I'm that confident in my d1 and d2 dbd reads then well idk what to say about that. in that case I sure hope Charlie is town
Jalmonts post made me think of this:
Isnt a jalmont vote kind of the same boat as a Charlie vote? As a mechanical option that prevents town autoloss upon another mislynch, bc unless marlyne is town and gets off a protect scum!jalmont + mafia kill two town and win. I’m not sure I articulated myself clearly but does what im saying make sense
Isnt a jalmont vote kind of the same boat as a Charlie vote? As a mechanical option that prevents town autoloss upon another mislynch, bc unless marlyne is town and gets off a protect scum!jalmont + mafia kill two town and win. I’m not sure I articulated myself clearly but does what im saying make sense
kinda? but i think charlie has a lot of towny factors going for them that I think jalmont doesn't have
I am working on a charlie progression track so you can see what I mean, but again I want to reiterate that it feels jalmont went reads first why he has those reads second
oh yeah I was talking purely mechanically
ehhhh but that's mostly my "charlie's mega that procs at volo disables the voteblocker" theory
Ohh i was meaning like
Charlie is voteblock
Jalmont is os vig
Mechanically both of them have the problem of, if we misvote town today and leave them alive, them getting their action off loses on the spot for town
I mean vote negator is way more likely to be on a mafia team compared to extra kill (or doublevoter/mayor)
really the more plausible line of thinking is that I'm just lying about my mega. of course why I would decide to do that now doesn't make much sense either so I guess then maybe if you think I'm an extra kill that procs when half of town dies then well idk what to say about that.
this is why I wanted people to claim mega conditions and actions, it's hard to put the full picture together otherwise
but oneshot vig jalmont is just his claim whereas charlies voteblock is proven. mafia could just lie about having a vig.
anyway only here for a brief moment, i got too much stuff to do, might be on after lunch
i am gonna quit this halfway after burning out but who shits a give!!!
idk how lechen gets good vibes from joking and then saying d1 is a rand but it's not totally unbelievable
in advance im gonna say this is not a comprehensive list of charlie's posts, just the ones where they express/elaborate on their own reads
also just gonna exclude nullreads because that to me basically means "I can see it both ways"
Dislike for DBD slot into later a early d1 vote on them
votes dbd off earlier bad vibes, and while im at it:
Newer Players (I would like to avoid voting these players D1 specifically, we are more likely to catch them off of mech, from interactions with flipped players, or just spewing)
- Vizh (he kinda fits in both this category and the one below)
- des (to a limited extent, she has played lots of games recently but it is difficult for me to get a read on her. Although this could be a good choice since her reads were super on point last game)
- AligningStar (again, p new)
Experienced OC players (Players who likely can provide usable reads but have less NOC experience and so ymmv re: reads)
- Me (sunny)
- Mekkah
- Blazade
- Vizh (see above)
Experienced NOC players (Players who have played multiple games as of late and I think have not bad reads. For D1 ONLY I think we should be voting within this pool)
- AG
- DBD
- Lechen
- HyHy
- Tommy
- BD
- fairy
- CK
- skipper
- charlie
- pulsar
- NE
- Vizh (he kinda fits in both this category and the one below)
- des (to a limited extent, she has played lots of games recently but it is difficult for me to get a read on her. Although this could be a good choice since her reads were super on point last game)
- AligningStar (again, p new)
Experienced OC players (Players who likely can provide usable reads but have less NOC experience and so ymmv re: reads)
- Me (sunny)
- Mekkah
- Blazade
- Vizh (see above)
Experienced NOC players (Players who have played multiple games as of late and I think have not bad reads. For D1 ONLY I think we should be voting within this pool)
- AG
- DBD
- Lechen
- HyHy
- Tommy
- BD
- fairy
- CK
- skipper
- charlie
- pulsar
- NE
i mean in general idt it's really prone to being scum driven unless both masons were fake and planned it out beforehand. (someone really should look into that), since theres just such a large pool and the vote didn't even end up in it
starts towning vizh for solviness
likes bluedoom's post
Im calling this dislike of skipper but it could reasonably be interpreted as null
not included was confusion over ag's read on sunny which i thought was null but this post treats as dislike
AG,Lechen,Sunny improve
pulsar looking less frozen is (biased rant deleted)
dbd stays negative
dislike of skip develops
bluedoom hedginess
Idk where the Vizh townread comes from
Skip dislike develops, creates. let's call it negative pressure, on Vizh
read back and it boiled down to aligning felt vizh's questions weren't going anywhere, and bluedoom agreed.
likes ck off post (specific)
likes blazade's posting (vague)
mixed on me
skip improved (viberead)
des read is the average reaction to des
dislike tommy over not being able to understand their thought process
dislike me over me voting pulsar
the bluedoom/aligning stuff... didn't happen? at least not where they quoted it and I'm really not in the mood to sift.
these are scumreads, 'you' is tommy.
Of these, I think the aligning one is weirdest even without taking the fact that they flipped town into account, it feels undeveloped since, well you can scroll up to see why I don't think it's developed enough! that's why I'm doing this!
explanation of aligning scumread
tldr they were coasting, which I feel contradicts what they were saying about pulsar
like on blazade over posting (generic)
bd i think this is a null overall, argument can be made that this is small like
this is included because kinda progression? it's reexplaining what they said earlier but the last sentence is new wrt the thought process
progression on aligning scumread
explanation of above
dislike of fairy
and everything of that was the aligning 'wtf is this role' stuff that got aligning voted
and so ends d1, ill revisit this tomorrow if i wake up on time :D