NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

God I mean 3
sunny004 said:
I am Banette. My ability is Frisk, which tells me which mega stone (if any) someone is holding. I am essentially a role name cop. My mega ability is not useless, but if I claim my mega ability it pretty much becomes useless. I recognize that makes me look scummy af, but please just trust me on this point specifically. I will say that I have not mega evolved yet but I believe I will after tonight.

My N1 target was fairy: Unlike others, I suspected fairy as the wolf d1, but didn't have enough info to push this vote confidently. The way my role is phrased (specifically stated IF the target is holding a mega stone I find out which one) led me to the erroneous belief that Mega Ray was in this game as the most unique mega evolution, and that the wolf was mega ray. Since my role is basically just a flavorhunt anyway, I decided that my actions would be best spent trying to find this mega ray neutral, and I began to probe here:
fairy was one of only two players to respond negatively (the other being tommy):

Fairy was also the only player besides me d1 to bring up the wolf unprompted:
But when I frisked her and found gengarite I dropped the subject because again I was expecting a Mega Ray neutral.

My N2 target was CK, again thinking that he could be the wolf from his claim. I can confirm that CK is holding Latiosite, which is why I do not want to push him today.

My N3 target was charlie for similar reasons. He is holding Venusaurite.
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people targeted fairy surely one of them has to be lying and is some kind of role cop or alignment checker right?
 
JALMONT said:
I think NE is scummy but he said something that made me reconsider that I can’t remember

His role claim can easily be mafia but he did call out CK for not sharing his mega condition
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first mention of me, immediately calls me scummy
JALMONT said:
I don’t really understand AG’s role but role cop is pretty mafiaish and realistically you could say they copped AF and then killed her at the opportune moment knowing her role

And then now AG is trying to clear buddy NE? hmm

I think skip/neon are town

I meant MASS CLAIM today btw not just me claim. In fact I feel strongly we should do this
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tries to claim ag/I are partnered because he got reflected
JALMONT said:
Ok so NE lied about his mega ability on top of walking back his original can’t claim restriction thanks
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this is really just one thing (pretended i couldnt talk abt role, then revealed) but jalmont makes out to be literally twice as bad
JALMONT said:
I’m actually more inclined to believe CK over NE funnily enough. I think CK should share their mega condition though otherwise the role doesn’t really make sense but given the flips I guess it might?
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this is about mega ability? I think? but like by all accounts the two claims can both be true, jalmont just is magically sure it has to be one of us two
JALMONT said:
My scum pool is vizh/CK or NE/ sunny/marlyne/AG maybe but probably not

Can also angle shoot with the subs but I’m trying not to go there
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forming votes without reads
JALMONT said:
So NE was bus driven

Interesting
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not really much besides that he's trying to vote me without having even having the knowledge a skim would get you


intermission: he is giving like the exact vibe dbd did when dbd said "answer my questions ne", voted me, and never asked me any questions
JALMONT said:
You just asked this in pm?

Can you explain to me why NIGHTEMERALD is town. CK too if you can
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tries to get people to towncase me as if the burden of proof isn't on him to prove how I am scummy in any semblance of the term
JALMONT said:
he's saying his ability steals the mega ability, gets a 1x of it, then vanillas the target for 3x (blocking them from doing their action)

so you aren't concerned at all about NE dodging the thread often, lying about mega ability for no reason, and now AG is saying what he's claimed is different from the 1x he got?
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ad hominem attack, plus I literally explain why I hid the mega ability im pretty sure, 'dodging the thread' is basically the same bad logic bluedoom used where "ne is afk therefore he's scum"
JALMONT said:
man CK basically offered nothing all today how irritating. even less than NE lol

anyways, I guess I have to put this out here to get some convo going while I'm asleep but my mega ability does allow me in somehow access to a kill so read that as you will. I'm not really sure why DBD wasn't concerned about this at all as this was ringing alarm bells for me as soon as I subbed in but I'm probably missing something obvious or misreading my role PM. also I actually do believe there is a world in which CK is really a vig...killing dusk was a really bad way to show it tho lol
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tldr: "ne isn't offering anything today" without any indication of what kind of content you do expect this is a bar you can set to whatever height you want to paint people as town or scum due to arbitrary standards
JALMONT said:
hm actually I realized he claimed backup and backed up aligning star's role (nexus) so that whole interaction is probably real...fk

still idk why you would claim that for...backup??
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this is another arbitrary bar, as in just because you're not understanding my reasons, I'm scum?
JALMONT said:
ok burn is not informed.

second thought - could NE's info actually have said something like gengar is the wolf? and then they put 2+2 together that ag claimed af was gengar (I'm just assuming AG said this cba to look back)

I mean surely there just is a scum with ag/ne/CK??? I don't know how CK really fits in here. the dusk vig was just so bad I absolutely hate hate hate that combined with my ability to kill I really want to know what CK's mega condition is because it doesn't make sense we have all these kills flying around. I do have an inference on a mafia role as a result but I'm not going to share unless we commit to mass claim

thx for killing off all the people that share my timezone now zz
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wild speculation into a line of reasoning based on a what if scenario you made up. This is the part that annoys me the most, because ag never said fairy was gengar, so this wild rabbit hole spawns from a skim/iso specifically done to look for reasons im scum, because from my perspective this entire iso is super cherrypicked
JALMONT said:
I think town BG is a really scummy role in this setup but somehow I happen to believe you. I wonder if arson gets around your protection? I assume yes
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side note: there's exactly one line of reasoning I'd accept for this.
JALMONT said:
things I would like to see when I wake up:

1. people deciding against or for mass claim INCLUDING ACTION TARGETS
-> a. if people against mass claim, I would like to see user targets. For example: I know who CK targeted on day 1, I would like to get confirmation on who that is (and likewise prove myself!). I am also particular interested in skip/neon. we can do this without claiming
2. hear from Charlie and NE on what we should do today and generally explain why we should not vote them
3. let's try and avoid putting 3 or more votes on someone. really max should be 2 but I doubt 4 people are going to pile on a misvote

whatever happens, please do not quick hammer me for another 18 hours. thanks. gn
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more putting the burden of proof on us instead of ever forming a coherent reason why someone is scum
JALMONT said:
You’ve just been scummy as hell bruh I’m not The only one to think this and now that I’m actually holding you accountable you are back in the game. Hmmmmmmmm

Anyways neon is town let’s not vote them
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god imagine
saying
why im scum
 
If there’s a tie between most targeted it’s a rand but still weird no one has claimed to have targeted neon

Are mafia more likely to target themselves or other players? The latter right. So if no ones claiming a neon target I have to put them in my town bucket
 
NightEmerald said:
first mention of me, immediately calls me scummy

tries to claim ag/I are partnered because he got reflected

this is really just one thing (pretended i couldnt talk abt role, then revealed) but jalmont makes out to be literally twice as bad

this is about mega ability? I think? but like by all accounts the two claims can both be true, jalmont just is magically sure it has to be one of us two

forming votes without reads

not really much besides that he's trying to vote me without having even having the knowledge a skim would get you


intermission: he is giving like the exact vibe dbd did when dbd said "answer my questions ne", voted me, and never asked me any questions

tries to get people to towncase me as if the burden of proof isn't on him to prove how I am scummy in any semblance of the term

ad hominem attack, plus I literally explain why I hid the mega ability im pretty sure, 'dodging the thread' is basically the same bad logic bluedoom used where "ne is afk therefore he's scum"

tldr: "ne isn't offering anything today" without any indication of what kind of content you do expect this is a bar you can set to whatever height you want to paint people as town or scum due to arbitrary standards

this is another arbitrary bar, as in just because you're not understanding my reasons, I'm scum?

wild speculation into a line of reasoning based on a what if scenario you made up. This is the part that annoys me the most, because ag never said fairy was gengar, so this wild rabbit hole spawns from a skim/iso specifically done to look for reasons im scum, because from my perspective this entire iso is super cherrypicked

side note: there's exactly one line of reasoning I'd accept for this.

more putting the burden of proof on us instead of ever forming a coherent reason why someone is scum

god imagine
saying
why im scum
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You have bad vibes sorry man

I’m a vibes based player this game
 
Votecount 4.1.soup: NightEmerald What store are you in?
JALMONT (2): Vizh, Mekkah
Aura Guardian (1): sunny004
ImaginaryNeon (0): CrreamyKitty

Not Voting (7): marlyne, charlieum, HydrogenHydreigon, JALMONT, ImaginaryNeon, Aura Guardian, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 6 votes.

Deadline is in 16 hours. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
NightEmerald our influence goes hard. Soupremacy. Lifetime stew GOAT
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wait wtf i went searching and its related to the decamillenial stuff
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wacky
 
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