(Little) Things that annoy you in Pokémon

In light of the Legends Z-A starter reveal, people have speculated about the starters getting Megas, Regional variants, or both, and it dawns on me that regardless of what option they go with, some Starter trio is just going to have a single odd-duck out unless they throw them in for the extra members (which isn't a guarantee either since the LA starters were their only respective members obtainable in the game, much less with forms).

- Megas will leave Typhlosion without one for Johto, and Tepig as the sole Mega Starter for Unova
- Regionals will leave Serperior as the only Unova Starter without a Variant, and Decidueye as the only Alola starter with one.
tbf regionals are functionally not much different from branched evos and in-verse are just recolored cousins, and many have specific lore about how a specific Pokémon adapted to a specific environment, so not getting one isn't too much of a snub.
Meanwhile Megas genuinely elevate the Pokémon the get them and are like being promoted to the minor legendary. to the status of a minor legendary. Also there's no real rhyme or reason as to who get them other than being lucky, so not getting a mega while similar Pokémon do is Pokémon basically saying "screw you" in particular.
Just another reason the Z-A starters bother me on the Johto double-up. Even if this was a rebalance thing, Feraligatr was in an acceptable enough spot to use another Water starter (Empoleon and Inteleon were right there).
Piplup would have been perfect not just because of the Napoleon connection but because the Sinnoh trio got nothing in their own region's legends game
Using two Johto starter is such a confusion decision that offers no benefit. It's like Game Freak did it solely to subvert expectations but not caring that people had those expectations because those expectations are what should logically happen.
 
Piplup would have been perfect not just because of the Napoleon connection but because the Sinnoh trio got nothing in their own region's legends game
Using two Johto starter is such a confusion decision that offers no benefit. It's like Game Freak did it solely to subvert expectations but not caring that people had those expectations because those expectations are what should logically happen.
I think people are putting way too much weight into who they chose. They chose the three they chose because they had designs in mind for their finals and/or megas. That's it. They probably workshopped a lot of different ideas and settled on the three we got. I don't think they were trying to match or subvert expectations the way a lot of people talk about it.
 
Yeah I'm a big Piplup fan (obviously) but I'm not mad that it's not a Z-A starter? Like, it didn't even really cross my mind as a possibility. I definitely don't think of Empoleon as a neglected Pokemon, even if it doesn't have a special new-gen toy. Tepig, Totodile, and especially Chikorita deserve attention more than Piplup at the moment.
The speculated trio of Snivy, Piplup, and Scorbunny was undoubtedly very cool, but people really forgot that they fit too well. :totodiLUL:

What would regional forms for those be to make them more French? Sticking a croissant on Empoleon's horns?
 
The speculated trio of Snivy, Piplup, and Scorbunny was undoubtedly very cool, but people really forgot that they fit too well. :totodiLUL:

What would regional forms for those be to make them more French? Sticking a croissant on Empoleon's horns?
Water/Ice Empoleon that's now just wearing the napoleon hat and conjurers an ice sculpture of a horse or wave to do the iconic pose before attacking you
 
also I should say that Im an absolutely huge Emboar fan so I'm obviously incredibly happy its getting picked, lol.

knowing game freak theyll give it ghost typing so its then the third fire/ghost starter since its not allowed to have its own identity ever
 
The Pokémon Company doesn't have the hang-ups that the fanbase has about a supposed unfair treatment some starters are receiving. If they did, the paldea trio would have some special terastal form or they wouldn't have given a regional form to one but not the other two from the same gen. Which is for the best, they shouldn't limit their creativity because some snivy fans are going to mald online.
 
I like the selection of Z-A starters because the Pokémon fandom actually does seem to need constant reminders that no matter how much a given theory or idea “makes sense,” Game Freak will zag when you expect them to zig. Hell, they won’t even do that, because if you try to get out ahead of them by expecting them to zag, then they’ll probably zug instead. I’m including myself in that too, because I was pretty confident in the Chespin/Fennekin/Froakie redemption arc prediction (which, sure, could still happen, but not in the way I thought it would).
 
Low HP values, semi ruins duskull's two evos, then ofc shuckle. Like I ran dusclops for tr, wasn't awful, but not where it should be with that base 40 HP lol, really hard to save base 40 with any feasible def and SpD.

In explorers again, spite won't de-link moves(yay!,) BUT for some dumb reason pp 0 traps will...I try to carry a link box.
 
The TCG is ending the SV block early and starting a new Mega block. This is interesting because it has never happened since HGSS, but it also definetly kills any hope of more Tera Pokemon...and we didn't even get all the Tera hats. Granted the TCG has handled Tera exttemely badly, but I'm sure there is prople out there annoyed at this. At least this isn't as bad as when not all Megas got a proper card.

Piplup would have been perfect not just because of the Napoleon connection but because the Sinnoh trio got nothing in their own region's legends game
Using two Johto starter is such a confusion decision that offers no benefit. It's like Game Freak did it solely to subvert expectations but not caring that people had those expectations because those expectations are what should logically happen.
Hate to break it to you, but a single game does not create a pattern or a course of action that should "logically happen". Using that very same logic, ZA should have been also set in the past and follow the LA aesthetic just because it was done that single time. It's a ridiculous limit on creativity that only comes from the fandom's obsession with patterns and trying to predict them.

I would be mad if Cynda didn't get a Mega, but when we don't even know if the ZA starters are getting one, or how they or their regional forms look like and what are the inspirations behind them, saying GF just picked them randomly is a faulty argument on itself because you can literally base it on nothing at all. You were just expecting ZA to be like LA. That doesn't mean anything.

Really, the only thing that is saying is that you would want Legends, which was fun bevause of being a departure from the usual games, to become yet another fixed check by the box thing in the series. Which, as someone who really wanted Legends Unova or anything done with Paradoxes...it's a good thing we are not in charge of the series.

I like the selection of Z-A starters because the Pokémon fandom actually does seem to need constant reminders that no matter how much a given theory or idea “makes sense,” Game Freak will zag when you expect them to zig. Hell, they won’t even do that, because if you try to get out ahead of them by expecting them to zag, then they’ll probably zug instead. I’m including myself in that too, because I was pretty confident in the Chespin/Fennekin/Froakie redemption arc prediction (which, sure, could still happen, but not in the way I thought it would).
It will never work tho. People were still arguing Unova remakes were coming in 2024, they still do it in 2025 (even discounting the, you know, historic teraleak we got which said exactly what games we are getting in the near future). People are now saying the next Legend games is definetly featuring Snivy, Litten and Popplio. Not even not being based on Unova and having two starters from the same gen has done anything to stop these people from seeing patterns everywhere. At this point GF could purpousedly have us choose the three Alolan Meowth from SM, and they would still twist that into a prediction about Gen 10.

There is nothing wrong with theories and speculation, of course. But getting annoyed qhen it turns out they were not true or unhealthy obsessing how they may still work is just pretty dumb. And I say that as someone who believed strongly in the Zodiac theory. This whole "Cyndaquil is being left out" doesn't make any sense yet. I know this fandom has extremely short term memory, but LA was just two games ago. Cyndaquil was literally the first priority of the trio. Even as my second favourite starter, we don't need it as a starter this soon. I do understand being annoyed at Johto getting this much focus tho.
 
The TCG is ending the SV block early and starting a new Mega block. This is interesting because it has never happened since HGSS, but it also definetly kills any hope of more Tera Pokemon...and we didn't even get all the Tera hats. Granted the TCG has handled Tera exttemely badly, but I'm sure there is prople out there annoyed at this. At least this isn't as bad as when not all Megas got a proper card.
I can see tera worming its way back in if Champions is an indication that Gen 10 might have Tera and megas, at least.

my annoyance on this side of things is that we had owner's Pokemon. We have Iono as a headliner. You printed new Iono TCG merch showcasing her entire team*....You did not give us Tera Electric Iono's Mismagius ex. Or, barring that since okay you want her Bellibolt to be the ace ex, a regular Iono's Mismagius would have been cute if they played into it. Like an ability that referenced tera or played into the mechanic somehow.

Similarly related but the latest set has Misty as a fairly prominent pick and she didn't get an EX. Weird! Dondozo's first ex card is nice & all but like...it does feel strange to not have it be Misty's Starmie ex.

Hop got to have a Pincurchin ex promo card but it doesn't seem likely we'll get more owner's Pokemon after the rocket set and said set will likely not be giving more cards to the current Owners. All kind of an obvious missed opportunity across the board.

*Incidentally this merch also showed off her Luxray, which is also not in the set at all.
 
I'm not a TCGhead so is there any material reason to think the incoming post-SV sets won't keep Owner's Pokemon while just applying them to Megas? Z-A is presumably going to have a great deal of new combos and while they're waiting for that they could chuck in, like, Zinnia's Mega Salamence or Red's Mega Charizard

Then again the fact the revealed Lucario and Gardevoir cards aren't Korrina's Lucario and Diantha's Gardevoir does seem like a bad sign
 
I'm not a TCGhead so is there any material reason to think the incoming post-SV sets won't keep Owner's Pokemon while just applying them to Megas? Z-A is presumably going to have a great deal of new combos and while they're waiting for that they could chuck in, like, Zinnia's Mega Salamence or Red's Mega Charizard

its possible (we've had the mix of gimmicks with ex owner's pokemon), but we already had a bunch of owners sets and they usually don't carry concepts like this between new series.
 
I'm not a TCGhead so is there any material reason to think the incoming post-SV sets won't keep Owner's Pokemon while just applying them to Megas? Z-A is presumably going to have a great deal of new combos and while they're waiting for that they could chuck in, like, Zinnia's Mega Salamence or Red's Mega Charizard

Then again the fact the revealed Lucario and Gardevoir cards aren't Korrina's Lucario and Diantha's Gardevoir does seem like a bad sign
They like to do "blocks" of themes and aside from you bringing up that we already have "regular" Mega Ex Pokemon, we can just look at the current crop of owner's Pokemon and see they're not touching on the gimmick of Tera Pokemon in general, much less the more specific gimmick of Stellar Tera Pokemon. In fact, it's not just that there's no Owner's Tera EX Pokemon, it's that there's no Tera EX Pokemon at all. Every non-owner EX in the set is "vanilla"

We also know that after the Rocket set we have the Unova set that'll do the Pokemon 151 thing of having a card for each Pokemon and while it's not impossible that this set has Owner Pokemon in it (building on the N's Pokemon, perhaps, alongside some other new owners), the information we have now likely points to not doing it.

We'll see for sure when it rolls around but imo it seems more likely that the return of the owner pokemon was a transitional gimmick, with the Unova set probably serving as another transition from Owner to Mega.
 
Yeah, most of the time TCG gimmicks do not carry over between blocks- for example HGSS itself didn't have LV X and instead have brand new things like Legends -and tecnically Prime? If you count them? They have always in a weird spot. Owner's Pokemon were most likely introduced just to fill most of this year because of ZA launching a year later than expected and it working well because SV as a whole was already bringing gimmicks back as its gimmick, as redundant as it sounds.

Anyways, another small thing I'm annoyed about: the current selection of SV outbreaks. I wanted to grab some shinies or marks for my birthday. They are a cool selection on a vacuum, and multiple of them actually have split evos which is pretty cool (Charcadet, Poliwag and Scyther, also Applin but that one has the glitch). Then I realized there is no way I'm shiny hunting Charcadet or Poliwag because their shinies are awful to see. And Scyther needs to be evolved in LA.

I know we are never getting revamped shinies again because that is kind of opening a big can of worms but that's also exactly the reason why I will never understand how the Charcadet's shiny line got approved on gen 9.
 
know we are never getting revamped shinies again because that is kind of opening a big can of worms but that's also exactly the reason why I will never understand how the Charcadet's shiny line got approved on gen 9.

i need to find where this was posted, but the original designer of the line did not want the colors of the armors to be changed as it would ruin the design motif in their eyes. i assume the current system prioritizes artists wishes over what would be most appealing (even if indirectly: they probably ask for all designers to submit shinies alongside the base design and just accepts them 99% of the time)
 
i need to find where this was posted, but the original designer of the line did not want the colors of the armors to be changed as it would ruin the design motif in their eyes. i assume the current system prioritizes artists wishes over what would be most appealing (even if indirectly: they probably ask for all designers to submit shinies alongside the base design and just accepts them 99% of the time)
The whole point of the shiny system is to ruin the design motif! They're supposed to be the rough equivalent of melanistic/albino animals, which are radical color changes with no regard for aesthetic appeal. I might HATE the trend of Lime shinies, but at least those had some passion. Minor, unnoticeable changes? Not even worth it.

At this point, just get rid of shinies being a different color palette entirely and give them a permanent sparkle effect. If they aren't going to even try to change things up, why bother?

(My personal hate is actually Gholdengo's shiny. Just make him Silver instead of Gold and it would be perfect. Instead they recolor his seams, which is more work, less noticeable, and tells less of a story.)
 
The whole point of the shiny system is to ruin the design motif!
i mean, are they? even back in the day you had shinies that had very minor changes (clefairy line, scyther). the point of them is to be a rare thing to collect, the only time their designs and color choices have had some sort of system are when the devs artificially make some popular pokemon have black shinies to have cooler material or stuff like the future paradoxes all being chrome
 
i need to find where this was posted, but the original designer of the line did not want the colors of the armors to be changed as it would ruin the design motif in their eyes. i assume the current system prioritizes artists wishes over what would be most appealing (even if indirectly: they probably ask for all designers to submit shinies alongside the base design and just accepts them 99% of the time)
Assuming this is actually true and not just people making assumptions, great news for Tomohiro Kitakaze there is a lot of parts about the line that are not the armor that you could have changed instead of the solely tiniest part that is the bare minimum for a shiny differential
 
Assuming this is actually true and not just people making assumptions, great news for Tomohiro Kitakaze there is a lot of parts about the line that are not the armor that you could have changed instead of the solely tiniest part that is the bare minimum for a shiny differential

im surprised the flames of the pokemon didnt change with the eyes, kinda like marshadow (but always active lol)
 
Catching Legendaries has never been fun. Wish the system would be overhauled so you just have to knock them out instead of rolling dice a bajillion times.
 
Catching Legendaries has never been fun. Wish the system would be overhauled so you just have to knock them out instead of rolling dice a bajillion times.

I don't even like raids as they've been implemented in most cases, but using raid mechanics for legendaries really is the way to go with them imo; it makes their battles appropriately distinct, fitting in scale, and engaging, and spares the tedium of throwing Ultra Balls until one works. I'm not a fan of legendary fetch quests in general but there's a huge difference in how enjoyable it is in, say, ORAS versus in SWSH where it's tied to Dynamax Adventures.
 
I don't even like raids as they've been implemented in most cases, but using raid mechanics for legendaries really is the way to go with them imo; it makes their battles appropriately distinct, fitting in scale, and engaging, and spares the tedium of throwing Ultra Balls until one works. I'm not a fan of legendary fetch quests in general but there's a huge difference in how enjoyable it is in, say, ORAS versus in SWSH where it's tied to Dynamax Adventures.
My evil counterpart to the post I just made in the other thread but horrid shoutouts to Legendary/G-Max Go Raids which manage to have both boss fights AND annoying capture sequences with low catch rates. Even when it's a success it never feels good, and the failures feel even worse because it's tied to a limited currency (the raid passes/particles)

The only upshot is if you run into a shiny it's a guaranteed catch presuming you can hit the ball at least once.
 
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