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Here we have it! One of the tier's modern defining forces. Serperior is one of the metagame's most fearsome attackers. Self-boosting, STAB Leaf Storm threatens a sizeable portion of the tier. Hidden Power Rock, its main coverage option, allows it to get past most of its defensive and offensive checks. It's pseudo signature move in Glare turns faster threaths into a liability by totally shutting them down (ORAS paralysis is bonkers). Finally, with this set, it's able trade versus many fearsome threat's like Lopunny, Alakazam, and it even has a chance to live uninvested Torn T's Hurricane. It's an amazing enabler for a plethora of wincons and attackers. But, who will help out our Mean Green Yellow Magician Machine in it's time of need?
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Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 124 HP / 252 Atk / 132 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
Choice Band Superpower Tyranitar is a wallbreaker that takes advantage of most of HP Fire Serperior's hard walls. If a check that is faster than Tyranitar like Will-o-Wisp Talonflame, Assault Vest Knock Off Tornadus Therian, SpDef Zapdos, Wisp Heatran, or Bug Buzz Volcarona gets paralyzed by Glare it is no longer able to cripple or revenge kill Tyranitar later in the game. And even if it locks into a move that doesn't kill, he can still cheese a win.
Meanwhile, HP Fire Rest Serperior beats Ferrothorn and Mega Scizor, as well as crippling Mega Lopunny, for Tyranitar.
The set is Adamax to hit as hard as possible with enough Speed EVs for min speed Heatran, and the rest in HP. Superpower OHKOs offensive Heatran and most defensive Heatrans after rocks and Pursuit can trap and eliminate Mega Latias for Serperior.
"The best solution to a problem is usually the easiest one." - GLaDOS
252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 313-369 (100.6 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 418-494 (108.2 - 127.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Crunch vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Tornadus-Therian: 262-309 (72.5 - 85.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 40 SpA 30 IVs Serperior Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 16 SpD Scizor-Mega: 280-332 (81.6 - 96.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 40 SpA 30 IVs Serperior Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 220-260 (62.5 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
I love this song because I enjoy the very prominent bassline, and the chord progression, and the feelings of freedom it gives me. Every time I'm at the gym and hear this song I push myself that much harder.
Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet / Leftovers
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 240 HP / 16 Atk / 100 Def / 144 SpD / 8 Spe OR 240 HP / 176 Def / 92 Spe
Impish Nature / Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Roar / Dragon Tail
- Rock Tomb / Toxic / Fire Blast
Garchomp is great into the fire types that completely shut down Serperior such as Heatran and Volcarona (if running HP Fire). The two make a really good core on bulky offense teams since they cover such a wide variety of common Pokemon such as Excadrill and Manaphy as well as Megas such as Lopunny, Metagross and even Alakazam (this one is a lot more shaky though). Garchomp also gets up Stealth Rock which Serperior really benefits from since it's best checks are Rock weak Pokemon such as Tornadus-Therian and Thundurus. Serperior also helps Garchomp since it deals with common checks such as bulky waters and Mega Diancie.
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Serperior can't deal with dragons/steels/fires. Charizard-mega-x packs moves for all of the above. EQ hits steels and fires, flare blitz is an EXTREMELY strong attack due to Xard's tough claws + stabs + attack stat and dragon claw to hit stuff for neutral damage, if need be. It can run roost too. Charizard-X however, loves serperior dealing with rock types/ground types/water types that threaten charizard-mega-x. Also, serperior runs glare spreading paralysis that Xard really appreciates due to its middling speed stat. Dragon Dance can boost Xard's attack to astronomical levels while giving it a much needed speed boost.
BLOODY STREAM!!! EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MEGA CHARIZARD X HITS THE FIELD!
also, the beat of the song goes so well with what I imagine to be charizard-x's character lmao
also also, its jojo's bizarre adventure, got to be a banger!!!
The problem with Serperior is that it can't easily beat Mons like Chansey, Fire-type Mons, Dragon-type Mons, Steel-type Mons (pure or Heatran), and what does Diancie do? Nothing, thanks for watching the post
Jokes aside, Diancie has a decent speed, base 110, (slower than Mons that interest me, like Magnezone Scarf, Weavile, Xard+1, etc. If so, it sounds really bad, right? And even more so if we take into account that Diancie is considered a Mixed attacker, but more focused on the special side, a nightmare for MU vs Chansey, right?
So why do I propose Diancie if even in mega it is slower, provides more special damage, and does not improve MU vs Mons Scarf, which can bother Serperior? For the simple and simple reason of its set, a Diancie Adamant, but not slow at all thanks to Rock Polish which brings the speed to 620, being faster than many dangerous Mons (in the Slug Speedtier that I might put below, it beats many Mons with a single Rock Polish even if it's not Jolly or Max Speed).
With this you can improve the MU vs Pokemons like Alakazam, Heatran, Magnezone, Xard / Yard, Chansey, Weavile, Dragonite, Garchomp, and Bisharp sets without Assault Vest.
It still has its problems though, with Mons vs Gyarados, Tyranitar, Excadrill, or Bisharp AV, Mons with which in one way or another Serperior can help M-Diancie not to lose.
Not only that, with Diancie you generate pressure on Volcarona allowing Serperior to carry HP Fire, and to mark Ferrothorn, being a relationship in which both help each other.
To finish before leaving the important calculations Although it depends a lot on Polish Rock to be able to give its full support, you can be taking advantage of it vs the Mons who have to change vs Diancie
VS Alakazam
252 SpA Alakazam-Mega Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Diancie-Mega: 189-223 (78.4 - 92.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 100 HP / 24 Def Alakazam-Mega: 288-339 (104.3 - 122.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Vs Chansey
252+ Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 279-328 (43.4 - 51%) -- 5.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 279-328 (43.4 - 51%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Vs Heatran
40 SpA Diancie-Mega Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 384-452 (99.4 - 117%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Vs Bisharp without AV
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Diancie-Mega: 168-198 (69.7 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
40 SpA Diancie-Mega Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 270-318 (99.6 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Vs Weavile
252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Diancie-Mega: 181-214 (75.1 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
40 SpA Diancie-Mega Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Weavile: 362-428 (128.8 - 152.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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252+ Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weavile: 392-464 (113.9 - 134.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Vs Magnezone
40 SpA Diancie-Mega Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 216 SpD Magnezone: 352-416 (102.3 - 120.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Vs Garchomp
40 SpA Diancie-Mega Moonblast vs. 24 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 362-428 (99.7 - 117.9%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Vs Dragonite (If Dnite have Multiscale active you lose)
252+ Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 219-258 (56.7 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Diancie-Mega: 226-268 (93.7 - 111.2%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
Vs Xard
252+ Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 248 HP / 100+ Def Charizard-Mega-X: 320-378 (89.1 - 105.2%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO (With stealth rocks It's OHKO, but I'm not adding it because this set isn't that common to begin with)
Vs Scolipede sluGGy
252+ Atk Diancie-Mega Diamond Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Scolipede: 356-422 (109.8 - 130.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Vs Hawlucha
40 SpA Diancie-Mega Moonblast vs. +1 12 HP / 24 SpD Hawlucha: 296-350 (98.6 - 116.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Hawlucha High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Diancie-Mega: 169-201 (70.1 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Any calculation that is not here, please let me know and I can clarify it (Any doubt about why there are Mons with strange HP and Def / SpDef is because I don't know how common or Bulky they can be so I put the worst situation)
Mystery Dungeon has a beautiful soundtrack, (apart from the fact that it was not one of my first Pokémon games, it was the one that got me into the Saga) and one of the themes that I remember the most and with a lot of I appreciate it, it's the music of the final fight vs Primal Dialga, a fight with a beautiful soundtrack (at the same time it is a very tiring fight) I have really appreciated this song.
P.D: 40 SpA Diancie-Mega Moonblast vs. 244 HP / 0 SpD Dialga: 159-187 (39.5 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (My Diancie set doesn't kill offensive Dialga and can't stand a Flash Cannon {252+ SpA Dialga Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Diancie-Mega: 652-772 (270.5 - 320.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO}
P.D 2: sluGGy No, a Mystery Dungeon is not the same as a Exploration team.
P.D 3: Diancie base, before making the mega it is considered a RU Pokemon
The amount of serperior presented in this thread was a momentum killer and kind of defeated the purpose of it I think. Like genuinely it's not wrong to post serp with every Mon b/c in some way shape or form serp is some sort of benefit to just about every Mon in this tier. But like magic matchmaking I think was supposed to still give strong suggestions, but at least be diverse about it. Like serp is like mid to low s tier Mon, like the other s tier mons it can be slapped up with just about everything.
The amount of serperior presented in this thread was a momentum killer and kind of defeated the purpose of it I think. Like genuinely it's not wrong to post serp with every Mon b/c in some way shape or form serp is some sort of benefit to just about every Mon in this tier. But like magic matchmaking I think was supposed to still give strong suggestions, but at least be diverse about it. Like serp is like mid to low s tier Mon, like the other s tier mons it can be slapped up with just about everything.
i disagree, posting of serperior was definitely not the reason this thread died out. slug just moved over to tcg, had exams, made this low priority etc etc. you can see the same with his youtube channel not uploading any recent videos lol