Tournament OMPL XIII - Commencement

why you should draft me:

pros:
  • doing well in pic occasional
  • creative builder
  • some experience with team tours
cons:
  • employed debuff
  • american (c*l*forn*a)
please lock me in the pic dungeon darkness is all ive known

Plato's Cave: A Christmas Story - Brian Zahnd

Sauce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
 
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why'd you snub two legends of the OM community for the managers? Jrdn and w0rd legit helped make this community that you are all playing and you reward them with a snub? questionable decision from the leadership here in my opinion. y'all wouldn't even still be here if it weren't for the work that people like jrdn did to make your metagames even remotely playable and popular.
coman with me next year pdt
 
cant put this in my signup post so @ managers
please do NOT draft me without STAB support for the love of god i just need ONE person to help me build and test im not asking for much

i do have to mention that i will prep & play my games regardless i will just not do as good without support
 
why'd you snub two legends of the OM community for the managers? Jrdn and w0rd legit helped make this community that you are all playing and you reward them with a snub? questionable decision from the leadership here in my opinion. y'all wouldn't even still be here if it weren't for the work that people like jrdn did to make your metagames even remotely playable and popular.

I agree. That was an odd choice.
 
Some of the managers probably don't remember me from when I was active, so here's my Other Metagames CV.
  • Two-time OMPL winner (II, VII)
  • Two-time OMWC winner (II, III)
  • Inaugral Other Metagames room Player rank (☆)
  • Won a RandBats tournament that included so many players (550+ iirc) that it almost crashed the main PS! server
  • Was considered one of the stronger OM players in the Gen 5 & Gen 6 era, plus also had some solid showings in Gen 7.
  • Quite an innovative and creative builder:
    • Managed to turn SD Skarmory from a joke into a legitimate metagame defining threat
    • Was spamming Future Sight Slowking about 3 generations before it became mainstream
  • Currently unemployed af, so can put in the hours needed.

Previous OMPLs:
OMPL II


OMPL VII
  • Returned to the game (and a whole new generation) after being gone for years, but ended up on the winning team with a 6-4 record.
  • Won the final tie-breaker game. (So can be counted on in high stakes games)
    • Won by hax though. (Can be lucky when it counts)
  • Proflic builder: Built 500+ teams over the course of the tournament

OMPL VIII
  • Some unexpected irl stuff ended up getting in the way, so things didn't go so well.

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EDIT: missed a couple of interesting ones
  • Former Other Metagames room Moderator
  • Represented OMs in PSPL
  • Former member of multiple OM councils. Including mainstays like AAA and STABmons during their formative years.
  • Once topped multiple ladders concurrently (iirc, it was 4 out of Random Battles, AAA, Tier Shift, STABmons, and Inverse Battle)
    • so can definitely help out with other tiers beyond STABmons
  • High "Spectate-ability"
    • Often gets overlooked, but players & builders who can get non-OM mains hyped for OMs - and former members of the community checking back in - is always good for the scene
    • "Former top player duking it out with the best of today" is always a good storyline. And ultimately, good storylines are what make the most memorable team tournaments
    • Can usually be expected to bring at least one mon or strategy that has not been seen before. In a meta like SV STAB, being able to count on someone to bring something different than the same boring Lu-Pex-Corv type teams, is good for viewers
 
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PSA for all managers considering drafting me:

I want to be a substitute, I do not want to start. My run in BH Open was me just getting lucky with matchups and I do not want to spend a lot of time building. I prefer to be drafted with a BH player, who is willing to do the majority of the heavy lifting for teams, and will generally ping me for tests and not the other way around. I want to spam chats with "interesting BH sets". If I'm asked to play occasionally week to week I am happy to, but if someone does the heavy lifting with regards to building for those weeks, that will be highly preferable, else I will build something that is dubious.
 
Went ahead and deleted some posts trying to paint the hosts and mod team in a bad light because jrdn and w0rd didn't get picked as managers. I will spell this out as clearly as possible:

We (hosts and non-involved mods) voted on it, and they just didn't get ranked high enough in the voting amongst us to get picked.

Everybody is aware of who jrdn and w0rd are, but I take issue with conflating the current OM staff team with the staff team from Gens 5-7. The only people involved in the vote who were actually around when w0rd was an OM room mod and contributor were Ransei and myself, so a resume doesn't really do much when most of the results are not known to newer users and the activity surrounding the management being voted on is seasonal. There was no ulterior motive behind this, there is no "accountability" to be held.

Anyone is welcome to question a staff/host team decision, but the second the phrasing becomes toxic and obnoxious is where a line gets drawn and the staff team will step in.
 
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AAA 1 - sealoo
AAA 2 - prunny
BH: ANinjaDude
MNM: Velcroc? (Idk shit about MnM)
PiC: xqiht
Stab: Baddy
GG: about15gals
Bo3: TTTech

Rotate/Subs: The other 11 people where applicable can duke it out in Gartic every week for slots.
 
so a resume doesn't really do much when most of the results are not known to newer users and the activity surrounding the management being voted on is seasonal.
I say this with no intent behind it other than to be constructive, so I preemptively apologize if any of this comes across as toxic!

Does the voting period include a period of discussion beforehand? It seems like this'd be a great idea to clear up anything with managerial pairs who hosts are more unsure of. I think jrdn made a ton of effort on his end to advocate for himself (which lowkey I doubt was necessary, everyone knows who he is and I think everyone said he'd be a shoe in) and word's resume would've been great to have beforehand, but if there are concerns in the future behind activity and other stuff, a discussion period feels like it'd at least somewhat mitigate that. I doubt it'd solve the issue entirely, but I don't really think there's a perfect solution that covers all bases and this feels like it'd cover most. I don't really need a response to this at all, much less immediately (although it'd be nice to know if something like that is being considered) but having a set deadline for manager signups and then a date like two days after where you wanna announce results would probably help w/ this. Furthermore, assuming this already exists, I feel like it'd be beneficial for hosts to contact potential managers with any concerns and stuff. Messaging jrdn being like "hey I know you and you're awesome and I know word was awesome but idk if word's awesome anymore (he is), my concerns are x y z" and relaying that to the managers chat probably could've helped this outcome. It's too late to do anything now, but I feel as though this'd make things more fair on the end of people who wanna sign up by giving them a chance to make their case if the stuff in the signup thread doesn't address all the concerns people may have. I understand the need to have some things behind closed doors and I think most of this stuff should be kept behind closed doors, but I also fully believe that a hypothetical manager should be allowed to make their case. I'm not saying message HarryStyles69420 who signed up with ZaynMalik1111 (i prob shouldve picked different names) and have 1 forum post each - there probably doesn't need to be a set line for this. You guys are the hosts, you can decide when it's appropriate to message someone, but I do think this definitely was one of those cases.

While I'm here also - I don't really appreciate anyone (including my friends - you know exactly who you are and yes, I'm talking about you too, not just any one person) bringing up specific managers where anyone can see them and using them as an example of someone who could've been dismissed. There's a way to say "jrdn and word definitely should've got in" and that's a point of view I agree with, but where you lose me is when you start to discredit the other managers in an attempt to justify your point. They did nothing wrong by signing up and they don't deserve to read anything that's hurtful. Everyone has passion for the tournament and nobody who signed up and got in did it just because they felt like it. By saying this stuff, you just deincentivize people from signing up and that's not something you should be doing if you have an ounce of passion for the community. Yes, jrdn's everyone's friend including mine and I understand wanting to defend him which is the only reason I'm even taking the time to type this out, but all the other managers are also human beings and it's just straight up wrong to talk about these people like that.

Also, stop hating on the hosts and calling them incompetent and other shit like that - while I don't agree with the result by any means and think several points of the process could've gone better, this is a volunteer job and while volunteers are still 100% able to be criticized, there's no reason for them to listen to you if you won't be respectful. They put time and effort into this tournament and yeah, they're human, but you don't get shit done IRL by talking to people the way I've seen some of you talk to the hosts (and other people online). Like, if that works for you then I'm honestly surprised but that is not how shit works in the real world and some of the people I'm talking about are far past their teenage years so they know that by now. Do better and grow up. The only dumb and incompetent people in charge right now are the people in the White House.

To put it shortly: hosts, the first paragraph is meant for your eyes although you can read the rest if you wanna - community, read the entire thing and put your big guy/gal/enby pal pants on.

haha/wow react if you wanna make out, im accepting applications
 
Does the voting period include a period of discussion beforehand? It seems like this'd be a great idea to clear up anything with managerial pairs who hosts are more unsure of. I think jrdn made a ton of effort on his end to advocate for himself (which lowkey I doubt was necessary, everyone knows who he is and I think everyone said he'd be a shoe in) and word's resume would've been great to have beforehand, but if there are concerns in the future behind activity and other stuff, a discussion period feels like it'd at least somewhat mitigate that. I doubt it'd solve the issue entirely, but I don't really think there's a perfect solution that covers all bases and this feels like it'd cover most. I don't really need a response to this at all, much less immediately (although it'd be nice to know if something like that is being considered) but having a set deadline for manager signups and then a date like two days after where you wanna announce results would probably help w/ this. Furthermore, assuming this already exists, I feel like it'd be beneficial for hosts to contact potential managers with any concerns and stuff. Messaging jrdn being like "hey I know you and you're awesome and I know word was awesome but idk if word's awesome anymore (he is), my concerns are x y z" and relaying that to the managers chat probably could've helped this outcome. It's too late to do anything now, but I feel as though this'd make things more fair on the end of people who wanna sign up by giving them a chance to make their case if the stuff in the signup thread doesn't address all the concerns people may have. I understand the need to have some things behind closed doors and I think most of this stuff should be kept behind closed doors, but I also fully believe that a hypothetical manager should be allowed to make their case. I'm not saying message HarryStyles69420 who signed up with ZaynMalik1111 (i prob shouldve picked different names) and have 1 forum post each - there probably doesn't need to be a set line for this. You guys are the hosts, you can decide when it's appropriate to message someone, but I do think this definitely was one of those cases.
There was a level of discussion whenever a new signup would get posted--I personally vouched for w0rd and jrdn and ranked them #1 in my voting choices because I've known the both of them for awhile, but I was also understanding that not everyone was around for as long as I have been and would've been fine with any outcome.

Regarding the manager deadline, the hosting team already agreed that closing signups prematurely without a 24 hour warning was not the best approach, and in future iterations manager signups will either get a 24 hour warning or have the manager signup deadline clarify something along the lines of 'deadline is at x time or earlier if a decision is made beforehand'.

(paraphrasing from stuff UT said in discord earlier)
The host team and the staff team have both agreed that there is definitely value in figuring out a better vetting process for future team tours, likely getting input from prospective managers and likely players about manager pairings, because the current selection process is very opaque and seems to lead to upsets no matter what, even outside of just OMs. Both sides have information the other doesn't about reputation, and there's not a good way of sharing that beforehand.
 
in future iterations manager signups will either get a 24 hour warning or have the manager signup deadline clarify something along the lines of 'deadline is at x time or earlier if a decision is made beforehand'

I'm still confused about this approach to the "deadline". Would it not be simpler and more fair to have one set hard deadline at which the signups close? And if there aren't enough signups, it could be extended but I don't see any reason why signups should ever be closing early.
 
hi ompl unlucky xiii
fwiw im not trying to pricefix, just being honest. I signed up without tierblocking bo3, but ill have you know i will NOT be building BH this tournament even if the circumstances become absolutely dire so keep that in mind. i really would rather just play one of the tiers from my signup. i am also incredibly unlikely to be the kind of player who will be building for multiple slots outside of my own, as i've done that before and i just end up burning myself out. if you want a better idea, my dms are open
that being said i want a ring to go w/ my ribbon
glhf everyone
ps rip honchkrows
 
For any managers who wants to do tryouts with me —— I don't want to play any games this year but you could contact me on my discord (space_speakers) and tell me why you want to draft me. I'll definitely not reply any of you and won't take them to my consideration.

Have a nice day!
 
Hey all, just wanted to say that if you'd be interested in playing w Ivar and I, then we would gladly encourage you to message us on either Discord (sammyce & ivar57) or in a Smogon DM and let us know of any relevant or useful information, such as irl commitments that could hinder activity, if you'd require any particular support, if you can/can't help prep slots other than your own, or anything else that you think would be important to say. Also, join the Heart Takers server!! We'll be hosting tryouts soon, which is an amazing opportunity to show off your skills and convince us that you're the next auction steal that will go undefeated. Even if you don't intend on doing tryouts, you should still join and post your funniest shitposts and memes, or just be chill and talk.
https://discord.gg/tgrJCC8eep
 
hi ompl unlucky xiii
fwiw im not trying to pricefix, just being honest. I signed up without tierblocking bo3, but ill have you know i will NOT be building BH this tournament even if the circumstances become absolutely dire so keep that in mind. i really would rather just play one of the tiers from my signup. i am also incredibly unlikely to be the kind of player who will be building for multiple slots outside of my own, as i've done that before and i just end up burning myself out. if you want a better idea, my dms are open
that being said i want a ring to go w/ my ribbon
glhf everyone
ps rip honchkrows
Bro got rbtt champion in his name, you already got the ring :tymp:
 
Hey all, just wanted to say that if you'd be interested in playing with us, then we encourage you to DM us on Discord/Smogon/PS! or join the Dialgas server and let us know of any relevant or useful information, such as irl commitments that could hinder activity, if you'd require any particular support, if you can/can't help prep slots other than your own, or anything else that you think would be important to say.

https://discord.gg/nmrbH89MKN
 
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