NOC Town of Salem 2 Mafia: Revival - WON BY THE MAFIA AND THE WITCH

HyHy directly claimed to be transported, so the only way everything we know now could be true is if there were a hypnotist in play, right?
Each setup has 3 random towns and 1 town support, and transporter is not a unique role, so theoretically there could be 4 transporters if the rng was really crazy
 
HyHy directly claimed to be transported, so the only way everything we know now could be true is if there were a hypnotist in play, right?
If everyone in the game is town yes, but Hydro could have also been lying because he’s scum

But yeah if Hydro is town it was probably a hypnotist, or Joey says roles can be duplicates but someone else would’ve claimed transported by now bc we’ve all been here since Hydro claimed besides DBD (I think)

joey are you sure 2 transporters can spawn because what happens if transporter 1 transports a with b while transporter b transports b with c
 
The roles that are unique (Veteran, Retributionist, and all mafia killing roles) are specifically listed in the setup. In the rules it says that tied priority is resolved based on your position in the player list
 
Yeah DBD Alice des and Hydro are in some weird chart of CCs lol

I think Alice and DBD are enemies in every scenario though? As in one is town and one is scum
 
I would vote Alice out of the two because scrambling together a claim based on the info available that is now invalid bc she was prepping for the wrong scenario just like… happens in games like this

Why would fakeclaim Alice include Lookout in her list of roles for roxie(?) hydro(?) idk anymore when there was a claimed Lookout elsewhere yk
 
I would vote Alice out of the two because scrambling together a claim based on the info available that is now invalid bc she was prepping for the wrong scenario just like… happens in games like this

Why would fakeclaim Alice include Lookout in her list of roles for roxie(?) hydro(?) idk anymore when there was a claimed Lookout elsewhere yk
Can you read the results I posted twice
 
Alice x Hydro scumteam is extremely possible due to mech but also bc of the Whisper Mechanic where I’m p sure they were the 2 players going ham on D1 whispers

Which don’t get me wrong fits both of their personalities but there was also nothing to talk about on D1 the biggest use of whispers is to ingratiate yourselves emotionally with town as scum
 
Ok yeah so the claimed list would’ve been for Hydro which tbf is bold bc Hydro is alive but yk

That’s part of what links Alice and Hydro together as scumbuds tbqh because claiming rolecop (whatever the ToS name is) on an alive other alignment player is extremely bold unless they’re your partner who you know will back up the claim
 
I would vote Alice out of the two because scrambling together a claim based on the info available that is now invalid bc she was prepping for the wrong scenario just like… happens in games like this

Why would fakeclaim Alice include Lookout in her list of roles for roxie(?) hydro(?) idk anymore when there was a claimed Lookout elsewhere yk
If I I was mafia I would have included lookout in my results based on the fact that roxie got transported with the supposed nightkill DBD. He claimed first lookout so if I knew they were transported I would have fakeclaimed from the lookout list. What you are saying doesn't make sense.
 
If I I was mafia I would have included lookout in my results based on the fact that roxie got transported with the supposed nightkill DBD. He claimed first lookout so if I knew they were transported I would have fakeclaimed from the lookout list. What you are saying doesn't make sense.
It’s weird that your result also included Hydro’s role though right? If his role wasn’t included he would’ve countered your claim when you made it, when we all still thought you targeted Hydro

It’s not tiny odds but it’s a nice coincidencen
 
I feel like we've reached a point of chaos where someone actually does have to be flipped to tell us anything, because this is getting a bit nuts:

if every single one of alice, dbd, hyhy, and des are town the following would have all had to happen

- des targeted roxie and dbd to transport
- dbd was targeted for the kill night 1 and also targeted with a janitor
- alice targeted roxie and received dbd's possible role list
Roxie is one of the following according to my results

Escort/Transporter/Consort/Hypnotist/Investigator/Consigliere/Tracker

Escort, tracker and investigator don't make sense.
Transporter doesn't visit according to role list so I'm just confused
it would be one of the following (investigator? I'm pretty sure that's synonymous with watcher)
- dbd targeted roxie to investigate and ended up investigating himself, learning that roxie/alice visited him. This means roxie would have had to self-target with something, and could not possibly have self-killed. if roxie targeted dbd instead of themselves dbd would not have seen it on their investigative
- there is a godfather in this setup who happened to double target roxie/dbd with the janitor
- there is also a hypnotist in this setup who independently hit hyhy with a fake transporter result on the same night all of this nonsense happened

this is all technically possible but extremely unlikely, I think. Would flipping alice or des answer more questions? I think it would have to be one of them, right?

would a transporter role alert someone that they've been transported? I would assume yes because it's one of the hypnosis options on the document.
 
Okay, here's how this could have gone down without anyone lying:

1. Des transports the player in Roxie's spot (Roxie) and the player in DBD's spot (DBD). DBD is now in Roxie's spot and Roxie is in DBD's spot
2. An unidentified transporter transports the player in Hydro's spot (Hydro) with the player in Roxie's spot (DBD). DBD is now in Hydro's spot and Hydro is now in Roxie's spot.

Now DBD's Lookout, Alice's investigator, and Roxie's ??? are targeted at Roxie's spot - which Hydro is in. DBD sees Alice and Roxie visit and Alice gets a result based off of Hydro's role.

This means the kill was launched at DBD's spot, because that's where Roxie ended up.



If anyone else was transported during the night, NOW is the time to say it, because it is very important.
 
Do you think it’s likelier that Hydro didn’t counter your result because he’s one of the roles on it, or because he couldn’t because his actual role is a scum role not in your result
I mean if he was scum with his actual role I don't see why he would counter it. Scum hydro would have accepted it either way. Or Im not sure I follow your thought process :blobastonished:
I feel like we've reached a point of chaos where someone actually does have to be flipped to tell us anything, because this is getting a bit nuts:

if every single one of alice, dbd, hyhy, and des are town the following would have all had to happen

- des targeted roxie and dbd to transport
- dbd was targeted for the kill night 1 and also targeted with a janitor
- alice targeted roxie and received dbd's possible role list

it would be one of the following (investigator? I'm pretty sure that's synonymous with watcher)
- dbd targeted roxie to investigate and ended up investigating himself, learning that roxie/alice visited him. This means roxie would have had to self-target with something, and could not possibly have self-killed. if roxie targeted dbd instead of themselves dbd would not have seen it on their investigative
- there is a godfather in this setup who happened to double target roxie/dbd with the janitor
- there is also a hypnotist in this setup who independently hit hyhy with a fake transporter result on the same night all of this nonsense happened

this is all technically possible but extremely unlikely, I think. Would flipping alice or des answer more questions? I think it would have to be one of them, right?

would a transporter role alert someone that they've been transported? I would assume yes because it's one of the hypnosis options on the document.
DBD claimed lookout (watcher), not on the list. The transported role alerts. Pretty sure DBD would have claimed he was transported since there was all the talk. That's why I think one of des and dbd lies.
 
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