My opinions at the moment. I would love to hear reads from people now since I think we've mostly put the mechanics stuff to rest, with the conclusion being that everyone who has claimed something can feasibly be telling the truth.
(towncore)
HydrogenHydreigon - I know I just said he could be NE or NK but I was wrong there - I forgot about Alice's investigator result. Since it's pretty established now that HH was the kill target and the person Alice actually investigated, the kill excludes Hydro from being mafia and the investigative result excludes Hydro from being NE/NK. So Hydro is clear in my book unless we find out that he and Alice are mafia-mates, but it's pretty much impossible for them to not only be the 2 mafia members that didn't attack, but also to figure out quickly that they could lie in a specific way to give each other credibility.
Dead by Daylight - Lookout claim is extremely credible, could still be Recon but definitely wouldn't be a good vote for today mechanically. His stuff against des while we were assuming des was claiming a successful transport reads townie to me, seems like he came from a point of incredulity rather than malintent. However, he could still be mafia and be incredulous since in the end he wasn't lying about not being transported. The instant claim is bold, but it makes sense from a town perspective because he thought he had a redcheck. If he was mafia (recon) I think he would've taken some more time to discuss with teammates and figure out what actually happened with their kill being transported and figure out who he actually watched. So I am towncoring DBD for now.
(townlean)
Alice Kazumi - I believe the Investigator claim came from info Alice legitimately had, which means she is either Investigator or Consigliere. I'm not fully towncoring Alice yet because I can see the angle where she is Mafia and just charades as a normal investigator - and I think she acts exactly the same as she has today. I would maybe like to hear a bit more of your general suses since most of your content has been just mechanical so far (not your fault, mostly everybody's content has been mechanical).
des121 - Mechanically, des's claim makes sense but is completely unverifiable right now. After a new read of the rules we can see that the transporter's action failing if their target had already been transported is a correct mechanic. However, mafia knew from the very beginning of the day, well before des claimed, that Roxie was transported. Granted, nobody knows who the actual first transporter was - so they would have to assume that that transporter was above des in priority. Side note: If you are a transporter that is below des in priority but you transported Roxie/Hydro successfully, you absolutely should claim now. Anyways, until we see an actual transport from des, there's no way to mechanically verify. I would be townleaning des, but I think her content has derailed town a lot so far - especially when we spent hours assuming that her and DBD were TvS because she omitted the very important info that her transport failed. Not only that but strongly implied that her transport didn't fail and DBD was lying. I would like to hear more from des on why she was sussing DBD yesterday.
Miyami~~~ - I like Miyami's solving so far. I don't know if I agree with their conclusions on flipping someone specifically to get information, but I think they're coming from a genuine inquisitive townie perspective and trying to figure out what happened. I would be surprised if their messages would be coming from a point of having extra knowledge or understanding from being mafia.
ElectricityCat - Vibes based. I liked
#143 and feel like ECat is contributing good perspective and analysis on solving the des/dbd questions. I don't get the vibe that ECat has any extra information from being mafia and their messages make sense from me coming from a town perspective.
(neutral)
JALMONT - Typical JALMONT. The no-vote d1 is an expectation from JALMONT but I hope you're seeing that the numbers this game are especially bad for a no-vote. I like his analysis on DBD of believing him even before we had fully established the mechanics that mostly proved DBD was fine. I put him on the neutral line instead of the townlean line just because I think it'd be reasonable for him to do that as scum too, but I don't have any sus on him at the moment.
a fairy - Not a lot of content so far. I totally understand that you're more for mechanically solving when there's more info and there certainly isn't enough info for a mechanical solve yet, as all the mechanics we've established now just boil down to 1 or 2 clears. I think scum fairy and town fairy play pretty much the same day 1 (2) so I'm passing on reading for now.
AirC - Sounds like a normal new player so far. I really don't want to read much into their d2 because I know what being a new player is like. You ask questions and try to find your footing and it really sucks to be sussed for basically nothing and feel shut down immediately. I would definitely like to hear more from you before making a read, but I understand if you don't have a ton to add right away. I totally recommend that if you have thoughts, even if you're not confident in them, you post them.
Evie - I don't love them advocating for a skip vote, but I get it because I'm historically a skip vote defender and have only recently seen the light lol. The rest of their content seems okay but not much to go off of.
(scumlean)
Lechen - Lechen's content mostly centers around Alice early on and des later on, which I kind of read as softly going after two townies as a way to add content, knowing that realistically both were innocent but there were reasons to sus them in the thread. I know Lechen is not the only one who did this (obviously des was odd to anyone for a lot of the time last night lol), but the way Lechen's messages read to me is trying to add content but not really adding anything. I would like to hear reads from you if possible because my read could definitely change.
Celever - I think I have a bad habit of scumreading Celever whenever I play with him so take this as a grain of salt.
#165 rose a bit of red flags for me. I don't think people were really assuming Roxie had been scum at that point, I feel like we had just established that Roxie couldn't have self-killed or cleaned. Using that to advocate for a no-vote gives me a little bit of sus vibes. And then also in
#181 he is advocating for transporter to claim to verify that Roxie was transported, which isn't the
worst idea but I don't really think it's beneficial to town to expose our other transporter.
Aura Guardian - My main negative for AG is them calling for the transporters to claim - not once, but twice. The first one I can see the perspective on - if you think there's only one transporter, call for the transporter to claim IFF their claim will contradict what someone else is claiming. But the second time seems weird. Another transporter claiming would confirm Hydro's claim that he was transported, sure, but it would also expose the other transporter which would be a huge bit of information to hand to the evils.
