NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN

[a fairy]

i didn't know you became des

I haven’t asked anyone a question yet

 

[Celever]

As I see it celever is playing into the role of a spectator which doesn’t really affect his position in the thread if you flip town or scum, if flandrs flips town now, sure id 100% look into celever because the time worn trope of tvt while scum lets it happen is a thing but i don’t really think voting celever off the rip is a good idea w/o more words in the thread.

If I had to pick a cw itd be fairy unfortunately this is how fairy always plays so my issues wrt urgency could literally be =rand.



I vaguely remember underrating you frequently

That’s exactly what that post was doing correct

I was talking bout observational macro stuff mostly to see what Flandrs would do and the results were not great lol

 

[Celever]

Though it’s worth noting I expressed a scumread on Flandrs way before that post so I’m an active participant in one of the sides

It’s not fully lounging back with my feet up

 

[Celever]

NightEmerald give a read on Evie please thanks king

 

[NightEmerald]

NightEmerald give a read on Evie please thanks king

dont really have one they’re just relatively directionless. If i were mean id call it overtly leaning into being new but I don’t even know if that’s aligned with their experience, see des. Ideal scenario is that it’s confirmed via a pr.

Now advice, I have. Be proactive! If you don’t want flandrs to be voted, people aren’t always gonna suggest cws for you, it’s up to you to figure out who you want to keep in the game to talk to, who you don’t care about, and who you think is leading the town into a white van

 

[AngryPidgeon]

CK looks town. I understand his reasoning on pulsar but my meta take is that pulsar is acting like she usually does when town. Not much to go off on pulsar yet imo

 

[AngryPidgeon]

Where is Apricity?? Am I hallucinating or is he liking a lot of posts and lurking

 

[a fairy]

Where is Apricity?? Am I hallucinating or is he liking a lot of posts and lurking

you are not hallucinating

i dont like it, i think

 

[skippergamez]

Kind of, yes. I didnt really agree with Skipper that Celever was being proactive at the time Skip said that. With a small handful of posts, the only thing I remembered of Celevers post at that point was the mafia team size speculation which was not much.

in my post I mentioned that the small sample size meant that my observations were really NAI

 

[skippergamez]

But there’s also a chance I tunnelled him in popcorn and he was town

There’s additionally a chance he didn’t even play popcorn

I think you’re referring to popcorn

But I’m p sure I tunneled you (and like half the scumteam) -> hero shot you -> died

 

[wisteriapurple]

So, of course, proper reasoning would be appreciated.
(Crreamy is probably the worst offender in this case, since he? just mentioned having scumpings there after a(n) ISO/rereading without citing any posts or points for said pings to be based on.)

i mean i did outline my thoughts in #146 so like /shrug
you are right in that it is a scumlean but atp i'd rather move out of RVS stage and get something started

re: CK, i think the way he approached my slot pings town? knowing how he plays scum (sort of), i can see scum!CK straight fullsending a push on me there considering that i was already catching heat for a bit, and the posts he made re: re-evaluating me feel believable to me vibes-wise. welcoming sanity checks on this one though

I mean, haven't I done that already? I've expressed disagreement with two of her strongest reads (Cel, AP) and written off a third as LHF (me), and the rest of the list can easily be considered a low-effort nothingburger that creates very little town equity. I guess I could discuss the skipper read but I don't really want to discuss that slot so ???

why not re: skipper actually

Everything about Flandrs is basically irrelevant

how come? there has been quite a bit of discussion on his slot so i feel like dismissing it with "basically irrelevant" is uhhhh well im not a fan

 

[wisteriapurple]

Where is Apricity?? Am I hallucinating or is he liking a lot of posts and lurking

he is indeed liking stuff
i wish he would post

des too i pinged her earlier and she never responded

 

[a fairy]

how come? there has been quite a bit of discussion on his slot so i feel like dismissing it with "basically irrelevant" is uhhhh well im not a fan

nothing flandrs has said will matter in 2 cycles, everyone's opinions will develop further based on actual events and statements that have real backing to them, it's day 1 - if anyone tries to use the d1 flandrs discussion as evidence of anything of value down the line they are trying to sell you a bridge

 

[wisteriapurple]

nothing flandrs has said will matter in 2 cycles, everyone's opinions will develop further based on actual events and statements that have real backing to them, it's day 1 - if anyone tries to use the d1 flandrs discussion as evidence of anything of value down the line they are trying to sell you a bridge

i guess but then what would you propose we do now

 

[NightEmerald]

nothing flandrs has said will matter in 2 cycles, everyone's opinions will develop further based on actual events and statements that have real backing to them, it's day 1 - if anyone tries to use the d1 flandrs discussion as evidence of anything of value down the line they are trying to sell you a bridge

we are using d1 flandrs to determine the d1 vote
##Vote: a fairy

 

[StupidFlandrs48]

why not re: skipper actually

Because any opinion of him will inevitably be colored by whether you think his soft is real or not, and it's not healthy to pressure him about that rn anyway

 

[StupidFlandrs48]

nothing flandrs has said will matter in 2 cycles, everyone's opinions will develop further based on actual events and statements that have real backing to them, it's day 1 - if anyone tries to use the d1 flandrs discussion as evidence of anything of value down the line they are trying to sell you a bridge

As a professional bridge salesman I am deeply offended by this

 

[a fairy]

i guess but then what would you propose we do now

not get so stuck in the mud over a disagreement that holds no water and makes no sense

 

[Celever]

Damn Flandrs just decided to ignore me but didn’t unvote GG

 

[wisteriapurple]

Because any opinion of him will inevitably be colored by whether you think his soft is real or not, and it's not healthy to pressure him about that rn anyway

uh wdyt about the read NE posited regarding him tho i was honestly hoping to hear more on that front

 

[a fairy]

we are using d1 flandrs to determine the d1 vote
##Vote: a fairy

if you wanna use the equivalent of a random number generator to decide the d1 vote that's fine

i will simply wait for end of day when there starts being actual pressure

 

[Celever]

not get so stuck in the mud over a disagreement that holds no water and makes no sense

Disagreeing is like, how readable content starts to be produced

 

[Celever]

if you wanna use the equivalent of a random number generator to decide the d1 vote that's fine

i will simply wait for end of day when there starts being actual pressure

Trying to stop the pressure as a means of waiting for pressure is an interesting one ngl

 

[a fairy]

Disagreeing is like, how readable content starts to be produced

can we at least poke at the readable content where 2 people posted nearly identical reads and then one of them went "and the other one's lost their mind their reads are so bad" or whatever, or do we have to focus on the molehill mountain

 

[skippergamez]

Anyway I wonder what style of reasonable crashout Flandrs is gonna have when he realises he’s odds on favourite to be voted out today

I’m thinking quiet anger but I could also see a louder alternative

Idt this post was informed.

AP
wisteria
CK
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Neon
Ch3
Pulsar
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Everyone else
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Evie
Skipper
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Flandrs

Actually can you explain your Evie read here based on a singular post at the time iirc

I also don't quite get the flandrs votes, to me it seems like someone who just wants to make some reads based off the little information available at the time. They are a little aggressive but I feel like its understandable to throw out reads without the intention of starting a wagon.

Also, are we sure we want to vote someone out today, I'm not experienced enough with mafia to know when voting is optimal

Bolded is always concerning

Nothing Celever is posting here makes me feel any better about him.

I hope you're talking more generally now, because the "fuck it info vote" thing might happen over the course of the game but it's pretty unlikely for D1. Vibes are king on D1, not actual confident reads. I also object to being the only person who has a confident-lite scumread, wis seems somewhat convinced about me if nothing else (again, understandable)

It's not an OMGUS if I object to your comments rather than your vote; I'd respond similarly if said comments were accompanied by an unrelated vote or no vote at all. But hey, if it helps you sleep at night, go right ahead with the "quiet anger OMGUS" narrative.

I agree that vibes are king d1, but I’m a little confused on how you got to “it’s pretty unlikely for D1.” Maybe we have different perceptions, but in my experience because people have unformed reads, they just follow the consensus.

Flandrs definitely feels like he's being the abrasive townie version of himself, I'll say that much from this page

I agree with this observation and it feels like it comes from a town.

I’m not a fan of AF’s apathy it feels scummy ngl
However, I agree with their only observation that Hal’s not posting is a bad look as well.