NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN

Evie said:
My scumreads may be misjudged or of poor quality since i am not used to reads at all but here goes:

Celever- Im slightly scumleaning because there were a lot of aggressive reads that didnt make a ton of sense, and wasn't something i saw a lot of from them when i last played with them as town. I believe they might be trying to go off the fact that people would expect a strong mafia player to not make crazy scumreads as scum.

pulsar - i have a veryyyyy slight scumlean since a lot of their content is just small conversation, which seems like something a mafia who is trying to stay under the radar but still seem active might do. However I have never played with them before so this might just be normal for them, who knows.

ck - their day 1 seems similar to when i last played with them in that they tend to be active and push people with not much to go off, so im leaning town for them

a fairy- i think shes likely to be town since she has been pretty active in making reads and sparking discussion when i think scum fairy is much less likely to do so

will probably try make more reads in the future but this is what im feeling for now. take everything with a grain of salt
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I vibe with a lot of this, thank you!

Re: pulsar, she has a lot of baseline thread habits that can scumping people by default, but she p much always flips town when that happens so don’t be one of those people who jumps to conclusions about her and has to eat crow (I did twice)
 
think my vote here is probably on

des or ck atm. i think forgetting your main scum read is either bad town or scum behavior but it betrays a lack of a consistent perspective.

i suspect hal is gambitting to try to survive n1 (will it work? who knows).

neon, pulsar, flanders, wisteria (need to read them closer though) and skipper (think him scumreading specifically me is on brand) are my town leans atm. no super firm reads at the moment
 
NightEmerald said:
i specifically liked their pulsar progression, I feel like “I agree with this but why the hedginess” comes from town ck, as scum theyre also generally setting up future srs. I need to check the latter against lumiose cause i feel like im basing this train of thought on the ck of 9 months ago.
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Ig pointing out the hedginess counts as setting up a sr but I think it’s just a liklier town type of thought process
 
M2H said:
think my vote here is probably on

des or ck atm. i think forgetting your main scum read is either bad town or scum behavior but it betrays a lack of a consistent perspective.

i suspect hal is gambitting to try to survive n1 (will it work? who knows).

neon, pulsar, flanders, wisteria (need to read them closer though) and skipper (think him scumreading specifically me is on brand) are my town leans atm. no super firm reads at the moment
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Wait I don’t scumread you tho
 
Fuck that's like 9 more pages to sheet...
Might as well get this thought out that I had a few hours ago (was too tired to be bothered posting it then).

NightEmerald said:
Hi good morning I will now explain the flandrs votes which I didn’t before because I feel like dropping info and leaving before engaging with its reactions is just a headache

The simple version of it is that I think Flandrs’ questions asked in the thread just don’t really show any interest in solving AP so much as just forcing a conflict between the two. Given um, *me* I agree that double replying is kinda meaningless and for that and it really feels like that alone to spiral into an unstated read feels terrible to me. I call it an unstated read because CLEARLY flandrs is approaching AP with an air of suspicion
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This reads like it was ran through scumchat before posting it to the thread proper.
Like, it just felt peer-reviewed to some extent.

I don't feel it as strongly now since it's been a few hours and I've wound up taking a nap and playing a bit of VSH, so my brain's not actively on that line of thought anymore, but that's moreso a mental state thing than a reads thing.

Anyways, I'll start catching up about now.
 
oh boy i love sleeping and waking up to 10 new pages :)))))
i don't see the point of voting d1, preferably i'd like to wait until we have good info from investigative roles but i haven't really gotten the full grasp of the situation so i'll think back on that once i'm done reading. also someone needs to give me a list of mafia terms in here since this is my first time, 10% of these posts i have no idea what they're abt
 
ImaginaryNeon said:
Fuck that's like 9 more pages to sheet...
Might as well get this thought out that I had a few hours ago (was too tired to be bothered posting it then).


This reads like it was ran through scumchat before posting it to the thread proper.
Like, it just felt peer-reviewed to some extent.

I don't feel it as strongly now since it's been a few hours and I've wound up taking a nap and playing a bit of VSH, so my brain's not actively on that line of thought anymore, but that's moreso a mental state thing than a reads thing.

Anyways, I'll start catching up about now.
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neons so right here honestly. Obviously it's day 1 so not much to work off of but this is the most promising scum crumb I've seen all day
##Vote NightEmerald
 
ImaginaryNeon said:
Latter half of 104  could imply 3p!AP trying to steer discussion away from the potential existence of a 3p but I'm not really confident enough in that read to push it that much.
But it is at least  something, and we are on D1, so I might as well vote it.
##Vote: AngryPidgeon
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We know for a fact there is a mafia team. We don't know whether or not there is an SK. An SK being present or not will become obvious as the cadence of night kills is revealed, and other evidence comes out.

Fairy said she was going to assume and SK and she suggested she was going to alter her playstyle somehow because of that assumption. I wanted to know what she intended to do different.
 
a fairy said:
i did not say i assmed an sk

i said i assumed 3p

a person not aligned w/ town who has the same functional level of knowledge as town.
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I didnt meant to put words in your mouth. To me SK and 3P are the same thing cause I really dont care. I sincerely hope there is not a non-killing 3P in the game because if there is that is stupid. If there is a killing 3P in the game then I will refer to it as an SK cause that is the language I speak in my head.
 
ImaginaryNeon said:
I also checked the wiki for my flavor out of boredom and I can kind of see where my role comes from based on a specific wording used to describe the weapon on the wiki.
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So pretty much confirmed at this point that flavor has some small correlation to role.
I think that is good. It means it will be harder for mafia to fakeclaim abilities most likely.
a fairy said:
can someone explain the flandrs votes bc they seem nonsense to me "let's vote this guy for trying to make something happen on d1"
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I think Flandrs is a person who is often scumread early because of his playstyle. I didn't play in ToS-1 but I remember scum Flandrs lurked all D1 then dropped a DGAF post at end of day and I townread him for it in my read through. I do kind of see him more as town here than scum but Im not really that sure of it. Every time I think Ive figured him out, it seems I havent. I think Pulsar and JALMONT also similarly get scumread for playstyle reasons more than they should.

NightEmerald said:
The simple version of it is that I think Flandrs’ questions asked in the thread just don’t really show any interest in solving AP so much as just forcing a conflict between the two. Given um, *me* I agree that double replying is kinda meaningless and for that and it really feels like that alone to spiral into an unstated read feels terrible to me. I call it an unstated read because CLEARLY flandrs is approaching AP with an air of suspicion
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Let him cook :blobwizard:
I think Flandrs wouldnt be seeking conflicts as scum? We did have a conflict in JALMONT mafia. Also I wouldnt personally frame his interactions with me as seeing a conflict so far. you could say hes being performative as scum maybe. But I dont really see it as alignment indicative so far.
 
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