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NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN
- Thread starter HydrogenHydreigon
- Start date
How did Joey infiltrate the me part of the list lol
im still stuck on "wtf is a neon core even"
Go-Go Gadget spreadsheet progress
lmao @ the "hacked" bit
NightEmerald do you have the first iso done. when you have it done ping me and ill post my mini iso up to eod1
looking at somebody's posts in isolation
i dont think i can reasonably do that for you but you could look at this for evie's posts but you'd have to ignore the ones not in this thread. ultimately id reccomend just going through each page of the thread and filtering out the ones that aren't evie's
https://www.smogon.com/forums/search/53200669/?t=post&c[users]=Evie&o=date
your read was that there wasn't enough information?
WIS PROGRESSION TRACKING
DAY 1
Immediate attempt to force progress, I think the biggest tell of that is "ap reaction feels disproportionate" and the notes on flandr's read on neon
I'm confused because only now do I realize that wis claimed ch3mdah might be the only person here who plays limbus company? She knows this isn't true considering I got her to play it a bit but maybe it's part off the voting me bit
That said vote on me is frankly NAI it's a ps bit.
I like this post personally due to agreeing with me but I think it's easily fakable
(Subsequent posts mentally included)
I think the entire mindmeld on flandrs' reads leans town because I don't really think scum does that unprompted, also wtf that happened at 5 am god I'm a mess
Continuing this I think "I like everyone who's posted a fair bit but that's weird" is a thought I personally have a hard time seeing mafia fake. Like obviously, it can be, but I take more stock in the former, because it's signposting that you intend to look ito things deeper.
This entire thing is mostly a collection/organization of prior thoughts which is fine but I personally am not really getting much of a read off it.
I think this reaction is really good ie there's a tone of frustration here which also implies frustration in the first time this was mentioned. Frankly, mafia doesn't have anything to be frustrated over. (Large rambling rant about fake reads and mafia's attitude towards them which frankly isn't universal). It's also d1 in a smogon mafia game.
I don't think there's anything particularly of note wrt the timing of this
I think this is nifty, this is another one of those personal read things where it's like immediately questioning ck about it feels so towny to me bc it's looping back into the intent to solve stuff, in this case trying to observe CK's thought process to see if he's actually thinking things over or just got caught in 4k. I'll be briefer w this one in the future
Towny, trying to get neon to explain the chain of reasoning leading to the ap vote, more fakable than the others.
This is the weirdest wis post and I just ignore it because I don't know what else to do with it. I invite other people to trll me.
I want to say NAI? I don't see anything in any particular direction but I feel like I should
I like the sentiment wrt getting something started, and it aligns with the way I see wis' posting
The Ck thoughts are... fine, I think the welcoming sanity checks are neater because it ties back into the aforementioned thoughts of thinking all the active people are towny and how those thoughts probably wrong.
The other two are just generically trying to force conversations which is big cool
Continues on the fairy trend, as I read this i had the mental image of the literal definition of wis helping fairy break out of a shell.
This continues for a while I won't quote all of them but like, I see NO reason for mafia to do this and I very rarely see mafia probe someone like this. Like I've seen them probe someone they "scumread" but this? not really
This reads as a genuine hold up and once again wis tries to look for the thought process
I think after all the prying into fairy's thoughts, it's natural that wis would make this read. Frankly I don't really think this changes depending on what the read is just that one was made and shared. Personal read of wis is that wis is frustrated and this is her way of ending the particular flandrs convo with fairy because well frankly even reading that exchange annoyed me.
Wis sees something interesting from fairy and is immediately interested in talking to her again. I think this is particularly such a hard thing to fake, I'm almost certain this is genuine interest in hearing what fairy has to say.
I'm gonna take a break here and come back to this because I don't want to analyze this rn, especially when I haven't brushed my teeth yet
DAY 1
gm i lowkey clocked out of the thread after my first post oops
ty for the birthday wishes
preliminary thoughts were "all of this seems NAI" (hence the clock-out) so i gave thread a second skim when i woke up
noting the NV from ch3mdah on #40, Ch3mdah is this your first NOC? just curious
surprised that celever leaned 5 mafia over 4 in #42
but...
ty for the birthday wishes
two hours. it was two hours into the game
yes
preliminary thoughts were "all of this seems NAI" (hence the clock-out) so i gave thread a second skim when i woke up
noting the NV from ch3mdah on #40, Ch3mdah is this your first NOC? just curious
surprised that celever leaned 5 mafia over 4 in #42
but...
I'm confused because only now do I realize that wis claimed ch3mdah might be the only person here who plays limbus company? She knows this isn't true considering I got her to play it a bit but maybe it's part off the voting me bit
That said vote on me is frankly NAI it's a ps bit.
I like this post personally due to agreeing with me but I think it's easily fakable
(Subsequent posts mentally included)
I think the entire mindmeld on flandrs' reads leans town because I don't really think scum does that unprompted, also wtf that happened at 5 am god I'm a mess
Continuing this I think "I like everyone who's posted a fair bit but that's weird" is a thought I personally have a hard time seeing mafia fake. Like obviously, it can be, but I take more stock in the former, because it's signposting that you intend to look ito things deeper.
This entire thing is mostly a collection/organization of prior thoughts which is fine but I personally am not really getting much of a read off it.
I think this reaction is really good ie there's a tone of frustration here which also implies frustration in the first time this was mentioned. Frankly, mafia doesn't have anything to be frustrated over. (Large rambling rant about fake reads and mafia's attitude towards them which frankly isn't universal). It's also d1 in a smogon mafia game.
I don't think there's anything particularly of note wrt the timing of this
I think this is nifty, this is another one of those personal read things where it's like immediately questioning ck about it feels so towny to me bc it's looping back into the intent to solve stuff, in this case trying to observe CK's thought process to see if he's actually thinking things over or just got caught in 4k. I'll be briefer w this one in the future
Towny, trying to get neon to explain the chain of reasoning leading to the ap vote, more fakable than the others.
This is the weirdest wis post and I just ignore it because I don't know what else to do with it. I invite other people to trll me.
I want to say NAI? I don't see anything in any particular direction but I feel like I should
I like the sentiment wrt getting something started, and it aligns with the way I see wis' posting
The Ck thoughts are... fine, I think the welcoming sanity checks are neater because it ties back into the aforementioned thoughts of thinking all the active people are towny and how those thoughts probably wrong.
The other two are just generically trying to force conversations which is big cool
Continues on the fairy trend, as I read this i had the mental image of the literal definition of wis helping fairy break out of a shell.
This continues for a while I won't quote all of them but like, I see NO reason for mafia to do this and I very rarely see mafia probe someone like this. Like I've seen them probe someone they "scumread" but this? not really
This reads as a genuine hold up and once again wis tries to look for the thought process
I think after all the prying into fairy's thoughts, it's natural that wis would make this read. Frankly I don't really think this changes depending on what the read is just that one was made and shared. Personal read of wis is that wis is frustrated and this is her way of ending the particular flandrs convo with fairy because well frankly even reading that exchange annoyed me.
Wis sees something interesting from fairy and is immediately interested in talking to her again. I think this is particularly such a hard thing to fake, I'm almost certain this is genuine interest in hearing what fairy has to say.
I'm gonna take a break here and come back to this because I don't want to analyze this rn, especially when I haven't brushed my teeth yet
oh fuck all the text is a size too big i fucked up
#111 is an interesting post. Wisp starts off being apologetic for dissapearing for a bit, asks ch3mdah about his experience level and prods about the no vote, sides with celever over AP regarding the number of mafia in a role spec discussion, notes the flanders scum lean on imaginary neon, votes NightEmerald in what appears to be an RVS vote.
#114 reiterates the confusion on AP making a big deal of the 4 vs 5 mafia members case.
#132-148: NE and wisp interact on skipper TR, wisp thinks flandrs was trying to discredit AP, wisp unvotes NE and town reads NE for the mindmeld on flandrs.
#157: reads list -- AP / Celever / Pulsar / NE / Wisp town, Skipper TL, Fairy / CK / Neon null, Flanders mafia.
#164: Votes Flanders
#286: i think this is what we would call babyrage towards neon, flanders, and fairy over miscellaneous details.
#295: not aligned with skipper
#533: big analysis post that i cant quite understand atm -- unpairings with celever feel clearing to wisp
#554: again not aligned with skipper, maybe s/t
#769 triples down on NE town, probably unpairing at this point unless its a gimmick
#782: in response to m2h: ch3 play is consistent with how a newer player would play.
#903-907: Ch3 randomly votes wist and wist responds with "Fuck No". weird interaction and probably unpairing HOWEVER it is worth noting that wist is quite aware of unpairing analysis (see post #533 so could be gaming some of this)
#114 reiterates the confusion on AP making a big deal of the 4 vs 5 mafia members case.
#132-148: NE and wisp interact on skipper TR, wisp thinks flandrs was trying to discredit AP, wisp unvotes NE and town reads NE for the mindmeld on flandrs.
#157: reads list -- AP / Celever / Pulsar / NE / Wisp town, Skipper TL, Fairy / CK / Neon null, Flanders mafia.
#164: Votes Flanders
#286: i think this is what we would call babyrage towards neon, flanders, and fairy over miscellaneous details.
#295: not aligned with skipper
#533: big analysis post that i cant quite understand atm -- unpairings with celever feel clearing to wisp
#554: again not aligned with skipper, maybe s/t
#769 triples down on NE town, probably unpairing at this point unless its a gimmick
#782: in response to m2h: ch3 play is consistent with how a newer player would play.
#903-907: Ch3 randomly votes wist and wist responds with "Fuck No". weird interaction and probably unpairing HOWEVER it is worth noting that wist is quite aware of unpairing analysis (see post #533 so could be gaming some of this)
am i blind how are you guys gleaning pairings/unpairings from the ch3mdah vote/unvote thing
its mostly the way ch3 unvoted and revoted
I really do appreciate it. If you/Wis are town it makes the solve easier.
Your honest opinion on Joey? Im very null on him. He has looked solve-y in some of his posts but I havent seen anything that makes me want to townpile him yet