NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN

apricity who would you vote for that isn't AP because from my point of view you are a.) highly likely pushing town b.) possibly doing some convuluted gambit as a partner with AP or c.) (least likely) doing a way to high risk play that is actually right in this case. But your continuous shade towards my slot makes me highly doubt you are town and also right on AP. If you can't give me a straight answer I'm pelting you which is a shame because AP Flanders and NE make for historically terrible bedfellows wrt to making correct lynched so I'm actually a little bit skittish about this.

apricity said:
I think people are not reading what some of these posts are actually saying

Like, has anyone actually sat down and read the words in this post?

Hal hasn't said anything to M2H this whole game that wasn't about:
-EVERY SINGLE MAJOR PERSON AND WAGON OF INTEREST outside of maybe NE and even then I gave, like, VERY detailed thoughts on NE already!

Not to mention I haven't talked to anyone this whole game! Because I told everyone I wasn't doing that! The only reason I've been talking to you is because I felt bad about the fucking thing where you said I insult you all the time!

I told everyone that I wasn't planning on babysitting thread like I usually do and so I'm not going to be going around doing the grunt work of prodding people for lists and so what the fuck do you want me to do about the null slots?

insane
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  • The wist/ne interactions are very weird to me because the amount of confidence they have in each other's towniness while (from what ive seen) not having too high a success rate in their reads of each other from previous games makes me feel like it must be informed in some way?? I feel like its most likely to be t/s or s/t since s/s wouldnt pair that hard apart from WIFOMy reasons.
  • The hal/m2h/ap interaction is confusing me and i cant really get a read on it. my head hurts. i do think there has to be at least one scum in the three of them. I think hal's presence in the game has been pretty aligned with what he said he was gonna do although thats kinda NAI.
  • ck i honestly havent seen enough of, im leaning town since the few posts ive seen seem somewhat towny

M2H said:
Evie what was going through your mind when Celever self-voted?
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i was pretty confused as to why they did it since i had never seen a gambit like that before - it kinda felt theatrical in that it was a desperado to try and shift focus elsewhere
wisteriapurple said:
the timing of it all
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can you elaborate on this
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
I don't hate an Evie vote and I could switch to it if the wagonomics are right, but it feels like the safe and/or lazy option. She has far less ability to manage the threadstate based on her activity than other folks that are reasonably sus

If there's scum in hal/AP/M2H/NE/wisp(?) those are the priority slots to solve because they'll be the ones leading discourse into the late game
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but she has more activity now
 
joey said:
Oh I 100% thought the deadline was in 15 minutes

Take your time Evie I'm sorry
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I can't get to where you're at on NE. Tonally he's too different from his last game in low power where I was scum with him.

Skip I'm still reading but I can't really get to him being scum based on low power either.
 
Evie said:
  • The wist/ne interactions are very weird to me because the amount of confidence they have in each other's towniness while (from what ive seen) not having too high a success rate in their reads of each other from previous games makes me feel like it must be informed in some way?? I feel like its most likely to be t/s or s/t since s/s wouldnt pair that hard apart from WIFOMy reasons.
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##Vote: NightEmerald
for reasons shown above + i think wist is more likely to be town than ne and i dont really see a better vote
 
wisteriapurple said:
Evie how much do you agree with hal's reads
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re: ne, i agree on that i think ne is scum, but i can't agree or disagree on the reasoning since i haven't played with ne before

re: ap, i dont really understand why hal scumreads ap so hard, i feel like #1306 isnt as bad as he is making it out to be but maybe thats just me

re: m2h, i really don't understand the fight between them like i said before and its making my head hurt; i can't get a read on m2h's slot at all
 
Evie said:
re: ne, i agree on that i think ne is scum, but i can't agree or disagree on the reasoning since i haven't played with ne before

re: ap, i dont really understand why hal scumreads ap so hard, i feel like #1306 isnt as bad as he is making it out to be but maybe thats just me

re: m2h, i really don't understand the fight between them like i said before and its making my head hurt; i can't get a read on m2h's slot at all
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independent of myself what do you think of wis, taking myself into account, what do you think wis’ alignment is, ie do you think we’d talk like that as partners or
 
apricity said:
I can't get to where you're at on NE. Tonally he's too different from his last game in low power where I was scum with him.

Skip I'm still reading but I can't really get to him being scum based on low power either.
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I think I've only played with town NE so I don't have meta knowledge to base it off, but I hate using meta knowledge in general anyway

I think the wis/ne interaction absolutely reeks of an attempt to pocket on one side, and I'm feeling good about wis. #756 from NE really rubbed me the wrong way both in how defensive he was and how he basically didn't back up his townread at all. Wis's justification of the read on NE (#868) does not make me agree with her read but I think the way she responded to it is a lot better and I believe that it's her genuine read and genuine justification


Looking back on page 10 where I had thought Flandrs/ne was t/s I don't feel like this is as strong as I remembered so I'll cut this from my case.

#485 raises a big red flag for me, NE's anger there gives me the vibes when you're scum, and you get sussed by a townie for something that legitimately isn't true - I highly doubt that NE brought the wording of that post to scumchat to critique before posting it, but NE reacts weirdly to what is really just a one-off "this is a possibility" post

The rest of day 1 I don't feel like he has any good content, it's mostly him "defending" the wis read except it still boils down to him saying it's just vibes, which makes it crazy how confident he was

These, plus both Celever and a fairy had sus on NE and flipped town makes the d1 look irreparably bad imo


Day 2 #1453 makes it very hard for me to change my opinion for obvious reasons

I feel like his content today all amounts to very little, it's a lot of him not feeling like engaging with certain things and picking things to contribute to that he can cleanly say as scum

It seems like his preferred votes are Evie and Neon, both of which give very little info despite him saying he wants an info vote. He does vote for AP, except he does this immediately after saying he doesn't really think AP is mafia and then switched to Evie

So to me, it's really the day 1 case being very strong and day 2 doing nothing to heal it
 
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