NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN

I don’t know how to respond to evie so i wont

Joey I don’t particularly want to vote Evie, here I’ll show you
##Vote: Unvote

The vote was to add pressure because m2h was like “oh look now theyll never answer questions” when i voted ap.
Atm my “do something” votes are ap/ck
my status quo vote is neon
 
ok well my questions come from the fact that i swear hal posted this exact line of thinking earlier
Evie said:
The wist/ne interactions are very weird to me because the amount of confidence they have in each other's towniness while (from what ive seen) not having too high a success rate in their reads of each other from previous games makes me feel like it must be informed in some way??
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and this just makes m2h's case on evie's treatment of cel ring in my head
 
joey said:
I think I've only played with town NE so I don't have meta knowledge to base it off, but I hate using meta knowledge in general anyway

I think the wis/ne interaction absolutely reeks of an attempt to pocket on one side, and I'm feeling good about wis. #756 from NE really rubbed me the wrong way both in how defensive he was and how he basically didn't back up his townread at all. Wis's justification of the read on NE (#868) does not make me agree with her read but I think the way she responded to it is a lot better and I believe that it's her genuine read and genuine justification


Looking back on page 10 where I had thought Flandrs/ne was t/s I don't feel like this is as strong as I remembered so I'll cut this from my case.

#485 raises a big red flag for me, NE's anger there gives me the vibes when you're scum, and you get sussed by a townie for something that legitimately isn't true - I highly doubt that NE brought the wording of that post to scumchat to critique before posting it, but NE reacts weirdly to what is really just a one-off "this is a possibility" post

The rest of day 1 I don't feel like he has any good content, it's mostly him "defending" the wis read except it still boils down to him saying it's just vibes, which makes it crazy how confident he was

These, plus both Celever and a fairy had sus on NE and flipped town makes the d1 look irreparably bad imo


Day 2 #1453 makes it very hard for me to change my opinion for obvious reasons

I feel like his content today all amounts to very little, it's a lot of him not feeling like engaging with certain things and picking things to contribute to that he can cleanly say as scum

It seems like his preferred votes are Evie and Neon, both of which give very little info despite him saying he wants an info vote. He does vote for AP, except he does this immediately after saying he doesn't really think AP is mafia and then switched to Evie

So to me, it's really the day 1 case being very strong and day 2 doing nothing to heal it
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1. Then what is Wis in all of this?
2. NE "sticks out" too much for me to like him as scum. I feel like he hid a lot in his last game in discord. I don't see that here.
3. I don't agree that he wasn't engaging today I feel like he's been relatively flexible with everything

The rest some of which I agree with, there's some other stuff that I saw that you don't have in your list (his reaction to cel claiming tracker), but all in all I lean town here primarily off prose and tone. I don't understand what Wis' alignment is if NE is scum.

I don't think I can reasonably join this wagon today.
 
apricity said:
1. Then what is Wis in all of this?
2. NE "sticks out" too much for me to like him as scum. I feel like he hid a lot in his last game in discord. I don't see that here.
3. I don't agree that he wasn't engaging today I feel like he's been relatively flexible with everything

The rest some of which I agree with, there's some other stuff that I saw that you don't have in your list (his reaction to cel claiming tracker), but all in all I lean town here primarily off prose and tone. I don't understand what Wis' alignment is if NE is scum.

I don't think I can reasonably join this wagon today.
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Wis being town makes the wis/ne interaction make perfect sense to me

The rest of your points are fair enough, just opinions really

The claim is certainly an interesting development
 
joey said:
Wis being town makes the wis/ne interaction make perfect sense to me

The rest of your points are fair enough, just opinions really

The claim is certainly an interesting development
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I'm not going to think too much about claims in role madness on day 2 i'll be perfectly honest with you.
 
##Vote Evie

Unless anyone's going to go for a skipper vote with me I guess this is where I'm landing

I think this is a decent chance to find scum but not going to give us any info if she is town, so... hoping for the best
 
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