NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN

read 2164 and 2167

the basic idea is that usually mafia want to vote out town and not their teammates. I usually use that basic framework to think about what the mafia is doing and what sorts of strategies they might want to pursue. of course this time I don't have a lot of time so I can't really super expand on these basic thoughts but maybe someone else can
i mean like yeah but scum could have absolutely bussed hal even if it is a risky play, i dont think its worth completely clearing anyone who voted hal
 
do you still want to vote out NE today? what do you think about NE's claim that he gets votes every time he correctly guesses how many actions fail at night
yes. i think its reasonable for both scum to come up with and for town to be given , im not reading into his claim too much
what people do you think could be the mafia team? is it still NE/skip/hal? if so, what do you think the mafia strategy day 2 was, with NE joining Hal on neon, and skip being a leading vote to get majority onto Hal?
ill have to relook at the wagonomics to see if ne/skip/hal is a viable scumteam but from interactions it seems likely
 
okay its perfectly reasonable for skip to either vote hal at the end of the day expecting him to not get voted out or bus him to gain towncred, or to not seem too closely paired with ne and hal. I dont think skip is the vote for now but worth considering for later days, especially if ne flips scum
 
did you not put him as part of your scum team on 2169?
that's hal see the undercase I understand why what I wrote is confusing though
i mean like yeah but scum could have absolutely bussed hal even if it is a risky play, i dont think its worth completely clearing anyone who voted hal
okay, so that means you think skip bussed Hal or at least it's a possibility. let's look at that

the wagon was 4-2 neon when skip voted hal. do you think it's a good mafia strategy to vote your teammate and get closer to a tie vote when there's two minutes to deadline? what's the going to accomplish? okay maybe now skip looks better when town neon flips. but now you when the risk of Hal, who is probably one of the better players on the mafia team dying which then just happened.

it's an extremely risky vote. would you make the same play in that situation? I'm guessing you probably wouldn't. I personally would not. I might do it if neon was my teammate. but not with apricity/hal.
 
that's hal see the undercase I understand why what I wrote is confusing though
oh right that makes more sense
okay, so that means you think skip bussed Hal or at least it's a possibility. let's look at that

the wagon was 4-2 neon when skip voted hal. do you think it's a good mafia strategy to vote your teammate and get closer to a tie vote when there's two minutes to deadline? what's the going to accomplish? okay maybe now skip looks better when town neon flips. but now you when the risk of Hal, who is probably one of the better players on the mafia team dying which then just happened.

it's an extremely risky vote. would you make the same play in that situation? I'm guessing you probably wouldn't. I personally would not. I might do it if neon was my teammate. but not with apricity/hal.
youre right, i probably wouldnt make that play. that doesnt mean skip isnt willing to though. it gives him an immense amount of towncred because bussing hal is such a dangerous play
 
oh right that makes more sense

youre right, i probably wouldnt make that play. that doesnt mean skip isnt willing to though. it gives him an immense amount of towncred because bussing hal is such a dangerous play
Why do you think skip would make that play? If it’s such a strong play, why wouldn’t you make it?
 
Votecount 3.2
NightEmerald (3): realiti, wisteriapurple, Evie
Ch3mdah (1): StupidFlandrs48
Evie (1): skippergamez

Tentatively extending deadline 24 hours in accordance to the voting in this post. I will still be waking up for un-extended deadline in case votes for extension shift.
 
thinking
as mentioned earlier i will not vote in the hal voters (neon/flandrs/skip/joey)
i will not vote pulsar, because her progression has been consistent
i want to prioritise discussing evie/NE for the whole voting block thing
and i am open to discussing the rest of the pl (i.e. realiti/DBD/des/ch3mdah)
Can you explain the pulsar read. I can’t remember any progression she’s had
 
mind still sleepy negl
Didn’t want to vote out Hal but was around at deadline and did nothing to stop that result. Interesting
yeah at the time i had him tentatively as a tl bc i did like some of the questions he posed, and i didn't rly want a repeat of the cel vote. however the neon counterwagon cropped up and prior to that i had neon down as towny, so i did not really want to vote him either. ultimately i wouldve made a decision much closer to dl but joey shifted plur to hal regardless
You were so certain day 1 NE was town that you preferred to vote the claimed tracker and now you’ve backtracked on that. Hmm
re: this i thought i had a decent enough meta read on NE but even post-cel vote i had been starting to re-evaluate it; hal flipping red definitely threw me for a loop and it caused me to expedite this
like atp i see NE and hal voting together on cel day 1, NE and hal briefly voting together on AP as i noted in #1909 + voting together on neon day 2, and then i see the weird stance hal took on NE (see: #1341 in which he lists 4 reasons for a NE scumcase only to note that he tls NE solely because of AP scumming him + tone, and then in #1683 and #1711 his read on NE is more of a tr now)
Can you explain the pulsar read. I can’t remember any progression she’s had
definitely a very low level read but she's been consistent with wanting NE out and in retrospect her posting has been pinging townie
though it's also that i want to prioritise resolving in evie and NE because both of them have partner equity with hal
i'd jump at the chance if we could chop both but atm i find myself leaning NE bc
1) evie is a claimed doc and i legitimately would crash out if the claim is legit and we misvote her
2) NE's disappearance rn alarms me bc it reminds me of the times i've seen scum dip from thread when there's high pressure on them so as to minimise spew
will admit point 2 is somewhat dubious because it could be due to oog circumstances but im still concerned regardless. idk i still want to hear from him that's why i've been masspinging him NightEmerald
 
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