NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN

productive in what sense? he was the main focus of discussion and he was very likely to be voted out before endgame and he almost certainly knew that.
He still had people townreading him and had influence over the way they would vote, that's what I mean by productive. I very nearly fell under that category but I rethought with a few minutes left and realized I needed to vote hal

Is Neon town?
When Hal initiated the Neon wagon it was directly in the chaos that ensued from Evie's doc claim. People decided they didn't want an Evie vote but there wasn't another obvious vote and there was only 10 or 15 minutes left in the day. So people went for a nothing-vote for someone with low activity, I think all 4 of CK/Ch3mdah/des/Neon received a vote in that period (or at least 3 of them). When voting an inactive has a reasonable chance of succeeding why would hal choose the inactive that was his scummate over the other options?
 
When Hal initiated the Neon wagon it was directly in the chaos that ensued from Evie's doc claim. People decided they didn't want an Evie vote but there wasn't another obvious vote and there was only 10 or 15 minutes left in the day. So people went for a nothing-vote for someone with low activity, I think all 4 of CK/Ch3mdah/des/Neon received a vote in that period (or at least 3 of them). When voting an inactive has a reasonable chance of succeeding why would hal choose the inactive that was his scummate over the other options?
potentially to clear them through reasoning like yours?
 
i did
reading it i like him more but I 1) don’t think it takes away from my previous problems with it
2) misrepresenta my claim as done under pressure when I frankly was sure I wouldn’t be voted because most arguments against me were bad, I claimed because I wanted to make people shut up about me and lock in
like it’s not a pressure claim it’s a “please shut up” claim if that makes sense, I didn’t do it cause I felt I had to
 
##Vote: skippergamez

Joey I ran an iso and I find myself completely unconvinced by this skipper progression. If the hal vote was as powerful of a towntell as you claim to think it is, there would be no reason for you to express much doubt after AP’s revelation that he targeted M2H. There are plenty of town roles that might have an excuse to visit him N2 as well, perhaps under the assumption that Evie’s claim was fake (remember that skipper was on Evie before hal, even well after the claim) or that she’d target someone else that night.

tl;dr I think joey/skipper scum equity is through the roof, but forcing a claim from skipper also helps solve the Evie situation so I think this is the right vote.
 
##Vote: skippergamez

Joey I ran an iso and I find myself completely unconvinced by this skipper progression. If the hal vote was as powerful of a towntell as you claim to think it is, there would be no reason for you to express much doubt after AP’s revelation that he targeted M2H. There are plenty of town roles that might have an excuse to visit him N2 as well, perhaps under the assumption that Evie’s claim was fake (remember that skipper was on Evie before hal, even well after the claim) or that she’d target someone else that night.

tl;dr I think joey/skipper scum equity is through the roof, but forcing a claim from skipper also helps solve the Evie situation so I think this is the right vote.
Are you talking about my progression on Hal?

Cause if so this is hilarious bc I predicted in my head “someone’s gonna scumread me bc of me saying ‘I think voting Hal today is reactionary’ to voting Hal”
 
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