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Would you drive a tesla if it was gas powered?
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This reminds me of a TV show I watched where a guy crashed an electric car and it managed to recombust 5 times over the following days.
Big car guy here: still wouldn't drive one. On paper, the tesla is a good vehicle. The model S plaid has an estimated 1000 horsepower and is significantly more reliable than any car modded to hit those numbers (seeing as the only commercially available and reasonably attainable gas car to get near those numbers is the corvette (which is still a chevrolet regardless of build quality and QC).
Numbers aren't everything though. High HP cars often turn pretty poorly which is why you pretty much only see them on a drag strip or wrapped around a tree next to a highway. 400 is the absolute upper echelon for a reasonable consumer car, maybe a little higher if it's an SUV or one of those big ass trucks owned by people clearly compensating for something.
And, just like everything post-elon pretty much every part of that car holds some kind of flaw. Even barring the lithium-ion battery which in this case would be replaced with either a 4cyl for efficiency or a v8/v10, the suspension tends to blow itself up, and the "self-driving" system is responsible for the most ridiculous accidents in the modern day. With the clear flaws in the electrical systems that make up the entire car i'm also hard pressed to trust the steer-by wire system or the giant ipad taking up the entire center console that controls the climate and drive mode and fucking SHIFTER for some reason??? I'm so serious when I say this. Why would you put the SHIFTER??? the thing that MAKES THE CAR MOVE??? AND SAVES YOUR ASS IN AN EMERGENCY??? CONTROLLED BY A FUCKING MONITOR??? THAT YOU CANT USE IF YOUR CAR RUNS OUT OF BATTERY???
The one piece of credit that I can give these 4-door coffins on wheels is that when compared to the rest of the new car market the walking car bomb is barely a step down to the consistent 100k mile self-destruction (which is conveniently when warranty ends) of your hyundai engines and nissan CVTS and ford/GM... everythings so you can waddle back over to the dealership and trade in your formerly 30-40k car in for like 5 dollars and a snickers bar so they can shove a bunch of papers for a new 800 dollar monthly payment so far up your ass your esophagus is put in the loan documents.
I drive a 1997 honda del sol that is a bit under double my age. The only non-preemtive maintenance i'll ever need to do is on the distributor (although I saw a video of a coil-on conversion kit which should cut that problem completely, i'll shell out if my current one ever breaks). In the modern day keeping a 30 year old shitbox normally reserved for oldheads going through a midlife crisis is significantly more fun, just as reliable, and significantly (erring on slightly) less expensive than opening my wallet monthly for a depreciating asset (which is an incredibly stupid idea as anyone with a shred of financial knowledge would tell you).
But if you want to drive a tesla, sure. I won't stop you. I can gently remind you that the company is run by a government funded lolcow. I can provide a list of the risks associated with driving what might as well be a car manufactured by the IRA. And I can show you the obscene monthly subscription for a car that will lose every shred of money you put into it.
TL:DR FUCK TESLA FUCK ELON FUCK ELECTRONIC SHIFTERS BUY A SHITBOX AND DRIVE IT INTO THE GROUND
Numbers aren't everything though. High HP cars often turn pretty poorly which is why you pretty much only see them on a drag strip or wrapped around a tree next to a highway. 400 is the absolute upper echelon for a reasonable consumer car, maybe a little higher if it's an SUV or one of those big ass trucks owned by people clearly compensating for something.
And, just like everything post-elon pretty much every part of that car holds some kind of flaw. Even barring the lithium-ion battery which in this case would be replaced with either a 4cyl for efficiency or a v8/v10, the suspension tends to blow itself up, and the "self-driving" system is responsible for the most ridiculous accidents in the modern day. With the clear flaws in the electrical systems that make up the entire car i'm also hard pressed to trust the steer-by wire system or the giant ipad taking up the entire center console that controls the climate and drive mode and fucking SHIFTER for some reason??? I'm so serious when I say this. Why would you put the SHIFTER??? the thing that MAKES THE CAR MOVE??? AND SAVES YOUR ASS IN AN EMERGENCY??? CONTROLLED BY A FUCKING MONITOR??? THAT YOU CANT USE IF YOUR CAR RUNS OUT OF BATTERY???
The one piece of credit that I can give these 4-door coffins on wheels is that when compared to the rest of the new car market the walking car bomb is barely a step down to the consistent 100k mile self-destruction (which is conveniently when warranty ends) of your hyundai engines and nissan CVTS and ford/GM... everythings so you can waddle back over to the dealership and trade in your formerly 30-40k car in for like 5 dollars and a snickers bar so they can shove a bunch of papers for a new 800 dollar monthly payment so far up your ass your esophagus is put in the loan documents.
I drive a 1997 honda del sol that is a bit under double my age. The only non-preemtive maintenance i'll ever need to do is on the distributor (although I saw a video of a coil-on conversion kit which should cut that problem completely, i'll shell out if my current one ever breaks). In the modern day keeping a 30 year old shitbox normally reserved for oldheads going through a midlife crisis is significantly more fun, just as reliable, and significantly (erring on slightly) less expensive than opening my wallet monthly for a depreciating asset (which is an incredibly stupid idea as anyone with a shred of financial knowledge would tell you).
But if you want to drive a tesla, sure. I won't stop you. I can gently remind you that the company is run by a government funded lolcow. I can provide a list of the risks associated with driving what might as well be a car manufactured by the IRA. And I can show you the obscene monthly subscription for a car that will lose every shred of money you put into it.
TL:DR FUCK TESLA FUCK ELON FUCK ELECTRONIC SHIFTERS BUY A SHITBOX AND DRIVE IT INTO THE GROUND
inspired me to look into wood-powered cars and for the time they were produced they had measurably lower emissions than gas-powered cars and don't require a chemical battery to run. Probably less applicable now but they were commonplace in rural areas of europe during the pre-ww2 era since they had wood all over the place but now we need the wood for other things (buildings mostly) and we're pretty limited on the amount we can produce. They were also super slow even for 1930s standards when 60 horsepower was considered average and 100 horsepower was more common among the luxury and racecar market.
Nope.
1: Elon Musk is a complete [slur for child born out of wedlock] and I don't want to give him any money.
2: They're badly built
3: I think they're ugly
4: There are way better petrol cars out there
5: A petrol engine wouldn't fix any of the aforementioned problems.
1: Elon Musk is a complete [slur for child born out of wedlock] and I don't want to give him any money.
2: They're badly built
3: I think they're ugly
4: There are way better petrol cars out there
5: A petrol engine wouldn't fix any of the aforementioned problems.
read the poll. nobody cares about you boycotting the brand because of a weirdo with aspergers.
Okay so like, why would someone want a Tesla to run on gas over electric? What does it change about the car besides lowering the torque?
Because its funny and i cant be asked to sit at a charger/find one
technically it's one less weakpoint, although knowing modern tesla they'd fuck up a conventional piston engine far worse than their electric motors.
The original Tesla Roadster is also worth looking at for the context of a gas car; despite being an electric car, it was essentially a rebadge of the lotus elise, meaning most internal components are cross-compatible with the exception of the engine, transmission, and obviously missing fuel tank and corresponding lines.
This means that even though the 1-gear transmission inside the car isn't compatible with any of the Elise's 3 engine options, the entire engine bay can be pretty easily switched to accommodate the elise's rover engine, or more notably, the famously bulletproof 2ZZ-GE from either a lotus elise or 5th gen toyota celica/9th gen toyota corrola.
