The main games have never used the term, but it is still a discernible category of some form based on Egg Groups. There’s a reason why Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Togepi, Tyrogue, Smoochum, Elekid, Magby, Azurill, Wynaut, Budew, Chingling, Bonsly, Mime Jr., Happiny, Munchlax, Riolu, Mantyke, and Toxel are all in the Undiscovered Egg Group. That’s not a coincidence.
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(Little) Things that annoy you in Pokémon
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The main games have never used the term, but it is still a discernible category of some form based on Egg Groups. There’s a reason why Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Togepi, Tyrogue, Smoochum, Elekid, Magby, Azurill, Wynaut, Budew, Chingling, Bonsly, Mime Jr., Happiny, Munchlax, Riolu, Mantyke, and Toxel are all in the Undiscovered Egg Group. That’s not a coincidence.
The only time they've ever used the term is in the card game and only for Pokémon that were added after the Pokémon they evolve into. If all it takes to be a Baby Pokémon is not being able to breed and being able to evolve then Type: Null and Cosmog would also be Baby Pokémon and that's clearly wrong.
I was originally going to write off the "we're just going to ignore this" as basically joke by the probably lacking full overhead article writer for an international website, but honestly I wonder if that's the actual internal logic that they follow which is also why Togepi, Riolu & Toxel get documented as exceptions. Togetic gets to count as a middle evolution because Togepi precedes Togetic. The trio get to be labeled & treated as "basics" by the TCG because of it. Togetic gets to give 5 candies in Go because of it. Primeape gets to count as a middle stage because of it.
Is there a Japanese version of this article? It feels like it could be a TPCi thing, like that quiz that categorized ultra beasts as non-legendary despite the in-game code at the time listing them as sub-legends. (prior to SV demoting them)
Adding to this, in GO the candy is named after the first introduced species, e.g., Pikachu candy instead of retconning it to Pichu candy, which would be consistent with the article. But then what happens with Togepi, Riolu, and Toxel? Is it Togepi, Riolu, and Toxel candy, or Togetic, Lucario, and Toxtricity candy?
Lol, it's neither: togepi, Lucario, and toxel candy.
Incidentally I enjoyed that last year's worlds where you could put together a bracket had a "pick a legendary pokemon!" and had all the paradoxes under there.
charizard bias? nay, Lucario bias
I believe they did according to the 110 count. I think the 9 Pokemon shown were the only exceptions made.
I'm fairly sure this one is an (English) Pokemon.com original, so make of that what you will.
Maybe not an annoyance with the games but more the state of discourse surrounding the franchise, but god are the people who go on every new vid or preview for the games and just vomit out how the games look like they're PS2 games or how people who say they are excited or things look good have no standard or the like just insufferable. Social media and internet circlejerks are a plague, and it really is a circlejerk.
I tried Pokemon Legends Z-A during Gamescom and the game is garbage. I am very disappointed. I admit this opinion doesn't fit exactly here in this thread so I may provide the following fitting statement:
- I do not like that we have no auto-attack in the battle system of Pokemon Legends Z-A.
- I do not like that we have no auto-attack in the battle system of Pokemon Legends Z-A.
Well, I’d argue that that’s not “all it takes,” because there is still a further distinction between Baby Pokémon and Type: Null and Cosmog — the latter two are not, themselves, produceable through breeding, which is the mechanic that Baby Pokémon are the most relevant to in the first place.
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Baby:
Being a Pokémon that is a baby doesn't automatically make it a Baby Pokémon.
But it is a baby pokemon though.. like in the games themselves and all promotoinal material its seen with the other baby pokemon
Im not sure where you got that from because as far as i can see the tcg is the execption, not the rule.
The problem is the fact that those people are the loudest, its hard to find any sort of middle ground or discussion when the discussion itself is dominated by two extremes (namely the people who complain endlessly calling you a shill for having any intrest in the series or the people who suck up to everything gamefreak does calling you a hater for not seeing everything they do as perfect) still you have to remind yourself that at the end of the day they're still extreme viewpoints; logical views on something taken to an extreme, thats nothing new for discussion or discourse.
Do I understand correctly that your primary complaint is that the game does not play itself...?
To be honest, that IS a valid concern in games that become grindy.
If you end up situations where there's repetitive scenarios that are of no challenge and you just "have to get past it", having an auto-play feature is always a welcome QoL. Things like the autoplay of turn based gachas, or Rush command of the Atlus games, or the basic AI autoplay of Yakuza 7-8, stuff like that. Or even as simple as SV's "click button and your pokemon oneshots a weak wild mon for materials without combat".
Generally not good enough AIs to actually win "normal" fights, but good enough to wipe out basic repetitive ones.
Stuff like MMOs and Xenoblade have basic auto attacks to do between move cooldowns so you're still making progress on the battle while waiting to maintaining your timers
I assume that's what they want, since the downtime might force everything to drag, and not "I want the game to play itself"
I assume that's what they want, since the downtime might force everything to drag, and not "I want the game to play itself"
Using Snivy in BW2... It might be the worst Starter to use in an ingame run. Offensive stats below 80 meaning you don't do much damage. It is a bulky Grass-type so you take Super Effective Damage from everything. It is a Grass-type so it deals half damage to almost everything. Coverage does not exist.
Chikorita and Treeko feel so much better in their respective games and I think they generally learn better coverage moves.
Due to my dislike of Tepig-line, I am inclined always to use Oshawott in BW2... BW Snivy has a few better match-ups at least but even that is horrible.
Idk I'm a fan of all three and I find Snivy much more consistently competent than the others (besides ORAS Treecko specifically), even if that's just because of Leech Seed and, to a lesser extent, Coil.
Using Snivy in BW2... It might be the worst Starter to use in an ingame run. Offensive stats below 80 meaning you don't do much damage. It is a bulky Grass-type so you take Super Effective Damage from everything. It is a Grass-type so it deals half damage to almost everything. Coverage does not exist.
Chikorita and Treeko feel so much better in their respective games and I think they generally learn better coverage moves.
Due to my dislike of Tepig-line, I am inclined always to use Oshawott in BW2... BW Snivy has a few better match-ups at least but even that is horrible.