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OC Gambling Mafia - GAME OVER, Town Win

ive been mostly inactive this game due to irl and prioritizing other things. i just woke up. if airC has a guilty on evie that seems reason enough to vote evie imo
 
I don't see anything wrong with voting here given that its essentially a 1v1, although we don't exactly know the full context as to why airC says that Evie is scum.

I think it would be weird to ignore that situation though, jalmont if you doubt airC's claim, does that mean that you think he's scum?

I would also be down to vote in chickening/scary/surmen, we've heard nothing from them and I wouldn't be surprised if we had a few inactive mafia here.
 
Fwiw I didn't do much talking last cycle other than with former, Tommy and mekkah, and I don't really feel like either of them are mafia atm, which makes me wonder if the team even has more experienced players in the first place. Hm.
 
For the record:

1) Freezer
1a) Freezer as a role is almost always likely to be on mafia
1b) It's targeting on Bluedoom reinforces this is a mafia targeted move

So then for me, the question is simplified to
Reality 1) Bluedoom is town targeted by Mafia freezer
Reality 2) Bluedoom is mafia, self-targeted by Mafia freezer

and just...it feels hard to justify Reality 2 as a world. Like it's a possibility, but then also I have a vibe on Bluedoom where he's seemed very towny in chats all game - and then also that seems needlessly complicated. So I'd put it that in most worlds, 85% of the time here Bluedoom is locked town.
 
We don't have hammer so its not like we're endangering ourselves with a mishap in case were we're missing something

Former I can't tell who you're talking about, can you elaborate in dms again? Also there's an interesting implication with this freezer ability, can you guess what that is? Anyone can answer this but in my dms, don't answer it publicly.
 
Yeah if there's a (mafia) freezer then we probably need to have some thread activity to get anywhere. It gives bluedoom some towncred in my eyes but not nearly enough to just claim, I am going to ask everyone to hold off on claiming until we have like...anything more. Personally my standard for claiming to someone has been if they cleared a lot of townies, voted off a mafia, or have otherwise mechanically shown to be town.

I want to call this out though (in a friendly way) that this standard is selfish and doesn't work if everyone does it.

To clear townies or vote off mafia, you actually need to have info. Expecting someone to just do it out of their hat is crazy.

It is always great if someone can be mechanically clear, but there are also plenty of games where that doesn't happen. In this game, I think we have a near mechanical clear on Bluedoom from that freeze (although like I say above, I do see a possible world where mafia bluedoom freezes himself, I just don't think it's likely).

My main point: I think it's fine and great to have an array of people comfortable or not comfortable with claiming. But fundamentally, if we cannot mechanically clear someone, we have to start pooling info with someone so they can start clearing people and start finding guiltiest. If everyone or even a majority of town withholds their info until someone is clear, you are logically forcing a game loss for town.
 
The other alternative, and one I encourage people to do even though they're lazy, is play it like noc until you have a strong enough town core to just score the home run

We definitely should pressure a lot of the less active people today; and i do expect to see something substantial full jalmont this day phase, lack of which I'm going to assume is him pubclaiming mafia
 
What were your results, what info does your role give you?
gives me their role pm, tommy was amplifier as we have seen, and chickening is a town role that i dont want to reveal to mafia which i know is not the most reassuring but i do not think it would be wise to share the information
 
gives me their role pm, tommy was amplifier as we have seen, and chickening is a town role that i dont want to reveal to mafia which i know is not the most reassuring but i do not think it would be wise to share the information
Can't you DM it to the chickening to have them confirm it?
 
i mean i can but im p sure theyre inactive so no real point, also scum could have an invest so its not like its townclearing
hi i have been reading LMAO i’m also just… not necessarily sure how to contribute so i’ve just been chilling for the time being ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i talked to tommy and then he died so i’m lost LOLOLOL
 
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