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7-star Tera Raid Dragon Roaring Moon and Fairy Iron Valiant

For what it’s worth, the in-game newsletter for the event says, “The special Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant featured in this event can each be caught only once per save data.” Which to me sounds like we’re supposed to be able to get one of each. So I guess either the newsletter is wrong or the programming is. :mehowth:
 
doipy hooves said:
There is some doomposting about this actually being intentional, based on the wording of this event now specifically differing from the past paradox events in that it does NOT encourage you to join other game versions.

Roaring Moon/Iron Valiant:
https://sv-news.pokemon.co.jp/en/page/391.html


Walking Wake/Iron Leaves:
https://sv-news.pokemon.co.jp/en/page/312.html


Scream Tail/Iron Bundle:
https://sv-news.pokemon.co.jp/en/page/304.html


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Just a very baffling and disappointing decision by all means to subvert an established pattern for no good reason if so.
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What a baffling decision if this is the case, especially when they don't make it clear this is how it works. The slightly different wording was clearly not enough

And also...why, tho. They've not done it this way for anything else and it's not like these are super special things.
 
Esserise said:
For what it’s worth, the in-game newsletter for the event says, “The special Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant featured in this event can each be caught only once per save data.” Which to me sounds like we’re supposed to be able to get one of each. So I guess either the newsletter is wrong or the programming is. :mehowth:
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The sad part is, that doesn't really hint to both being available for one game copy, just that both bosses are only single-capture on Scarlet or Violet.
 
I went out of my way to renew NSO just so I could participate in the opposite version's raid to get a Mighty Mark Moon so the possibility that this was an intended feature isn't sitting right with me, to put it lightly. Especially since I went to the extra trouble to create some potential sets for this too, so that's a fair bit of wasted resources as well. Well, I got my Valiant so I'm out until we get further word on this. Wishing you all luck on getting your Mighty Mark Paradox!
 
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So from what I can tell, https://stevecooktu.github.io/sv_raid_lookup/ only fetches Violet's data for raid info, which was all well and good before gamefreak completely split them up apparently. So here's Iron Valiant's detailed raid script without Roaring Moon. The raid is 540 seconds/9 minutes, and the shield takes up 40% of its HP. It has the as-per-usual 50% double attack rate after 40% HP.

Based on other raid footage, I would roughly estimate Roaring Moon's timer and shield to be about the same sizes.
 
Based on the wording, they seem to consider the issue being that you can't join raids from the opposite version. There's no mention of Roaring Moon/Iron Valiant being restricted to just one of the two which is concerning.
 
Terimas said:
Based on the wording, they seem to consider the issue being that you can't join raids from the opposite version. There's no mention of Roaring Moon/Iron Valiant being restricted to just one of the two which is concerning.
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I mean seeing as it's only even possible to encounter that issue of you have someone locally with the other version, they probably didn't feel it was worth mentioning.
 
If they are investigating the implementation, perhaps they can also introduce a ban on the new Shiny Miradon/Koraidon being brought to these raids. Absolutely dead weight doesn't even begin to cover it. :blobsad:

/s
 
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I am looking for idiotproof ideas for Valiant. The closest i've seen to "not die" were Magearna and Tinkaton, but with Magearna Valiant at some point starts spamming Spirit Break and at -5 attack i'm not quite doing anything to it.
 
Worldie said:
I am looking for idiotproof ideas for Valiant. The closest i've seen to "not die" were Magearna and Tinkaton, but with Magearna Valiant at some point starts spamming Spirit Break and at -5 attack i'm not quite doing anything to it.
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I used Gholdengo with Stellar Tera. Be warned that you will be bombarded the ever loving shit out of with Shadow Ball. IF you can survive it, Valiant is squishy enough to die from Flash Cannon Spam. Chuck in Recover and Nasty Plot for good measure, and your choice of screen. I went with Reflect because it uses Swords Dance in the late game. I didn’t use it on any of my attempts though.
 
Worldie said:
I am looking for idiotproof ideas for Valiant. The closest i've seen to "not die" were Magearna and Tinkaton, but with Magearna Valiant at some point starts spamming Spirit Break and at -5 attack i'm not quite doing anything to it.
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Clear Amulet might help Magearna
 
The Chaotician said:
I used Gholdengo with Stellar Tera. Be warned that you will be bombarded the ever loving shit out of with Shadow Ball. IF you can survive it, Valiant is squishy enough to die from Flash Cannon Spam. Chuck in Recover and Nasty Plot for good measure, and your choice of screen. I went with Reflect because it uses Swords Dance in the late game. I didn’t use it on any of my attempts though.
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I saw a gholdengo in one of the raids, i was skeptical but he set light screen and seemingly wasn't dieing. Until he got crit into oblivion I think cause he just dropped at some point.

R_N said:
Clear Amulet might help Magearna
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I'll give that a spin. I don't really enjoy the idea of having to use calm mind -> flash cannon but it is what it is. Hopefully the odd draining kiss will be enough for sustain.
 
Worldie said:
I'll give that a spin. I don't really enjoy the idea of having to use calm mind -> flash cannon but it is what it is. Hopefully the odd draining kiss will be enough for sustain.
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There was a Magearna in my winning run. It snowballed very quickly with Soul-Heart because the 4th raid member (NPC Arcanine) was dying every other turn. Obviously I don’t know the set, but near certain it didn’t have Calm Mind. If it did, it wasn’t used. The last raid member was a Bellibolt and it also did decently well.
 
The Chaotician said:
There was a Magearna in my winning run. It snowballed very quickly with Soul-Heart because the 4th raid member (NPC Arcanine) was dying every other turn. Obviously I don’t know the set, but near certain it didn’t have Calm Mind. If it did, it wasn’t used. The last raid member was a Bellibolt and it also did decently well.
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Well that would rely on having a NPC spam dieing, which obviously you don't get with 3 people. That is my go-to strat when soloing raids usually since NPCs die over and over so Magearna can just click draining kiss and win.
 
Worldie said:
Well that would rely on having a NPC spam dieing, which obviously you don't get with 3 people. That is my go-to strat when soloing raids usually since NPCs die over and over so Magearna can just click draining kiss and win.
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Agreed. May have lucked out pulling Arcanine as the NPC too.

I didn’t get very far trying to solo it (at the point I started the winning run, I was about 3 attempts in and several more for Roaring Moon), so was a bit hasty on starting with 3 people + an NPC.

Outside of Gholdengo and Magearna, Pecharunt seems good on paper as an outside bet.
 
I haven't had the chance to try the Valiant raid since I'm on Scarlet, but given its moveset, I have a feeling this might do well:

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Tinkaton @ Shell Bell
Ability: Own Tempo
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Gigaton Hammer
- Skitter Smack
- Reflect

Stellar Tera lets you keep your Steel/Fairy typing, while still hitting ridiculously hard with Gigaton Hammer. Skitter Smack or whatever else in between GH recharges, and Reflect for Valiant's physical moves.
 
Figure I should grab the solo. Most posts so far seem to be Valiant, but what does Moon have (even if not Mon notes themselves)? Does Azumarill or a generic Fairy work?
 
pika pal said:
Figure I should grab the solo. Most posts so far seem to be Valiant, but what does Moon have (even if not Mon notes themselves)? Does Azumarill or a generic Fairy work?
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Avalugg @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Ice Body
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Curse
- Avalanche
- Chilling Water / Recover
- Snowscape

What I use.
 
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Azumarill @ Shell Bell
Ability: Huge Power
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Chilling Water
- Play Rough
- Belly Drum
- Rain Dance
I had NPC Arcanine and Bellibolt support, but this set worked for me against Roaring Moon. I defeated it so fast it didn't reset itself.
 
Tried this on a whim since I had one lying around and it works very well on Iron Valiant.

Metal Bear strat for Iron Valiant. This went like:
Charm, Belly Drum, Heavy Slam until Tera.
Heavy Slam until it resets your stats.
Belly Drum again.
Heavy Slam until victory.

Having an attack dropper or Arboliva helps a lot since its special moves can't hit Ursaluna at all!
I've tried this set with the least helpful teams, such as Haxorus / Corviknight / Clodsire, which have no attack drop, heals, or terrain, and it still works.

There's a variant of the EVs with Defense investment instead of HP. I only tested the HP variant.

Ursaluna (F) @ Shell Bell
Ability: Bulletproof
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
Adamant Nature
- Heavy Slam
- Belly Drum
- Charm
- Swords Dance (didn't use but backup in case too low HP to BD)

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The raid event is fixed. I can see Iron Valiant / Violet Paradox raids on Scarlet now.

Edit: Interesting, it's a new event entirely. I was wondering why my Tera raid crystals reset.

I was able to catch another Mighty Roaring Moon. Caught it in a Master Ball because I have 3 currently lol.

Edit 2: The opposite version's Mighty boss is catchable. Caught Iron Valiant on Scarlet with a Friend Ball :3
 
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