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p much yeah

we need to hook both yourself and hal between us and the werewolf really. both of our hooks are faster than hal's so I'm happy to claim we're hooking you and leave the werewolf to hook hal
This is kind of why I wanted people to shut the fuck up about night actions, I don’t think it was immediately obvious to WW before this that they needed to hook or kill me.

Thanks Evie and joey.
 
Let me just stop and think about what 3rd maf would be doing in this situation

Mafia want us to lynch town instead of WW because for whatever reason they don’t love going into 3-1 MYLO

So the simplest world that fits this criteria and involves the least worldview changes for me personally, is that Joey is actually WW and realiti knowing this is trying to get us onto AirC who is town
 
I honestly think he's towny but if we hold him in high regard his content is fakeable as both scum and WW and I would rather not underestimate someone. the genius case is the only post that really raises my eyebrows (#586)

I know I'm town and my other options are joey (don't think he's 3rd scum), tommy (not voting), bluedoom (not voting but considering re-evaluating)
Adding onto this I read his ISo and he has no reads the entire game
 
This is kind of why I wanted people to shut the fuck up about night actions, I don’t think it was immediately obvious to WW before this that they needed to hook or kill me.

Thanks Evie and joey.
yeah I've gotta be honest I forgot about collaborating with the werewolf in-thread on actions until it became the topic of conversation ahaha

rough man
 
Let me just stop and think about what 3rd maf would be doing in this situation

Mafia want us to lynch town instead of WW because for whatever reason they don’t love going into 3-1 MYLO

So the simplest world that fits this criteria and involves the least worldview changes for me personally, is that Joey is actually WW and realiti knowing this is trying to get us onto AirC who is town
this is a fair analysis, unfortunately this is also our current world where im town and don't love going into 3-1 MYLO bc I don't wanna get misvoted and lose
 
This is kind of why I wanted people to shut the fuck up about night actions, I don’t think it was immediately obvious to WW before this that they needed to hook or kill me.

Thanks Evie and joey.
I mean, joey could be WW trying to bring up the topic so mafia could tell him what to do. I still strongly believe he is not the 3rd scum.
 
I mean, joey could be WW trying to bring up the topic so mafia could tell him what to do. I still strongly believe he is not the 3rd scum.
Which is fine. Like if you’re scum/WW in this game you get the right to annoy me. Rage bait, playing like shit, anything goes right?

I’m just angry that Evie wanted so badly to look smart for two seconds and couldn’t help themselves from engaging in a conversation that has a 0% chance of ever helping our win condition. And obviously ended up hurting it.

You can’t tell that I’m angry because the list of things that makes me upset about this game right now is very, very long.
 
I don’t care who the third mafia is, if we want to hit mafia we have options if we are voting in Poe it’s specifically because we MUST hit werewolf or go to kingmake

Hitting third mafia just means we know who the third mafia is at kingmake which realistically we probably will anyways so like

Werewolf>>> mafia equity imo

That’s being said I’ll vote Edith phoopes since he’s earned it
 
I don’t care who the third mafia is, if we want to hit mafia we have options if we are voting in Poe it’s specifically because we MUST hit werewolf or go to kingmake

Hitting third mafia just means we know who the third mafia is at kingmake which realistically we probably will anyways so like

Werewolf>>> mafia equity imo

That’s being said I’ll vote Edith phoopes since he’s earned it
if we hit the 3rd mafia we go from 6-3-1 to 4-2-1, in which case hitting the WW wins us the game
 
i believe these are the scenarios:

if we hit the 3rd mafia we go to 4-2-1 and have no margin for error to miss on WW, but the game is completely in our hands

if we correctly hit WW we go into 3-1 MYLO, so we have no margin for error to miss on the 3rd mafia, but the game is also completely in our hands

if we try to hit WW and whiff into town we it's still 4-2-1 but we need to hit the WW into 3rd mafia 100%


Regardless, we have one whiff today to spare, so I'm thinking what is the best way to use that "whiff"
 
like I don’t actually see how town wins at 2-1-1 and I think it’s silly (as Tommy has pointed out multiple times) for maf to not agree to 3-1 MYLO so we’ll just side with WW when that time comes?

Solo wins are better anyways
 
mafia: hook Evie, kill Evie
werewolf: hook hal, kill phoopes

hey werewolf I think this is a good plan for right now for tonight but I'll confer with a fairy after work so await updates

if no update this is the plan
 
All right guys so here's the full plan.

AirC joey Tommy phoopes Evie realiti bluedoom

Right now we're at 6-3-1

The reason we aren't voting the confirmed mafias today and tomorrow is that if we do so, town gets shot twice, and we go into 2-1-1 MYLO in which town is a kingmake and doesn't really have a shot at winning

So that means that either today or tomorrow, we have to take a shot at the werewolf. There are five people the werewolf could be located in: joey, airc, tommy, realiti, bluedoom

It's better to try to get the werewolf today because this group of 5 also contains the 3rd scum. If we hit the 3rd scum today, we get to try again to hit the werewolf tomorrow. So there's a 40% chance of hitting a baddie.

If we hit town, for various reasons werewolf is forced to side with town tomorrow and in the nightkill, and so we go to 2-1-1 anyway.

Now, if we get the werewolf today, it turns into 5-3, then 4-2, then 3-1, which is MYLO and it's either a town or scum victory. The scum apparently know who the werewolf is and are refusing to tell us, and so they're trying to avoid the 3-1 MYLO. Which is a little silly, which is why we're saying that if we get to the 2-1-1 kingmake situation, we're going to try our best to side with werewolf.

If we get the 3rd scum today, then tomorrow after 2 town deaths is 4-2-1 we have another crack at werewolf within the POE. Voting mafia doesn't work because after two town deaths we again return to 2-1-1 which is a town loss.

Thanks and good luck to us!
 
it's got a bit of y'know relying on each other so we'll stick to the plan bc we benefit from each other in it right

your kill would prob be blocked by Evie if we reneg so we won't do that cos we need phoopes killed, while you hook hal for us even though you're immune to it cos you also want evie dead / our hook to go through

collaboration frens :woop:
 
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